Browning BOSS system
 

I'm looking to get some kind of opinion from the population so as to help me in my gun purchase. I'm looking to buy a new rifle for hunting when I get back from Iraq and I've more or less got my mind set on a Browning ABolt Medallion in left handed. anyways, im curious about their BOSS system and its effect on the gun's recoil. I've been considering .30-06, 7mm mag, or 300 win mag. My question is how much recoil does the BOSS remove from the 7 or 300. id like ot purchase the larger caliber but if the boss doesnt affect recoil that much i may go with the 06. Any input would be appreciated

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If youwerepurchasing the gun to shoot at the range then it makes some sense....however youstated this would be a hunting rifle.

If you are not aware, shooting guns with muzzlebreaks without hearing protection can/does result in permanent hearing loss. Yes,that occurs in guns even without a brake. However the effects with the brake are much more dramatic.

Since youplan onusing this gun for hunting, I would strongly advise against the BOSS, unless of course you plan on hunting while wearing ear protection, (unlikely).

If you doubt my advice, just do yourself a favor. Go to the range and stand at the line while anyone is shooting a gun with a muzzlebreak. That way you will at least be aware of what you will be doing to yourself before making an investment.

You can take your pick....permanent hearing lossOR sore shoulder OR smaller caliber....

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Agreed, You can prretty much only pick one of those. I personaly think the muzzle break is a marketing gimmick, EXCEPT in some cases such as with a .50 BMG, or other situations where it really does help. But for a hunting rifle, I personaly would not get a break.

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I have owned one boss equipped rifle and will not own another.Aside from the extreme noise to the shooter,the boss on my rifle kept coming loose and when it did,the point of impact changed.The boss equipped rifles also come equipped with shorter barrels to compensate for the length of the boss.As a result they produce less velocity than non boss equipped guns.

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My buddy has a .300 mag with the boss, it does reduce recoil but like others have said, it is EXTREMELY LOUD ! I would rather have the extra kick than all that noise.

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my brother inlaw have a 300 win mag medalion left hand with boss, he says it kicks less thn the 30 06 he sold us. sure it loud but when hunting you fire 1 possibly 2 shots.

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A FACTORY BRAKE IS FOR REAL NO GIMMICK. I have the Weatherby 30-378 with the accubrake and i shoot it one handed on the rest. No muzzle jump or painful recoil. It works great. Unfortunately Weatherby does not make a LH gun. They are very loud and deafening. I have a pair of QB3's an hard plastic head phone with ear plugs. Moves up to the ear real fast and provides some protection. At the range....muffs on plugs. I try to wear my QB3's when I shoot any gun in the field....any trophy is not worth hearing loss.

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In a hunting situation without hearing protectionYOU WILL experience AT LEASTONE if not more of these symptoms after shooting a 7mm or 300 Win Mag with a muzzlbreak...

According to the American Academy of Otolaryngology, noise is damaging if:
[ul]you have to shout to be heard.
your ears hurt.
your ears ring.
you have difficulty hearing for a couple of hours after the exposure. [/ul]

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Hi Snibb:

I have the A-Bolt BOSS in .300 Win and would not buy another one. I think the "noise" factor is not really a factor. The BOSS equipped rifles come with a CR adapter that eliminates the noise associated with the muzzlebrake. My .300 feels like my .25-06 when I used the muzzle brake. I tried to give the brake away, and just use the CR, but no one would take it. As Stubblejumper mentioned, the barrel is shorter than other barrels, so you do lose quite a bit of velocity, turning your .300 into a .30-06. My biggest grump with the system is that when I reload, you just introduced so many factors you could spend 100s of hours trying to get the right one. You don't know if you should go +/- on the powder, the OAL, or turn the BOSS 1/8 of a turn (which way?). Then when the brake comes loose (it will, you have to buy the replacement nylon bushings periodically), you get to start all over. When buying rifles, it appealed to me at the time as a "neophyte" shooter, but over time it has become a PITA. I tried to trade it and a bunch of cash for a used .300 SAKO 75 and the dealer would not even consider it. BTW, the recoil on the .300 should not bother you anyway. If anybody happens to still want one (RH model), I will let it go cheap!!!

Good luck,
CE

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Colorado well said.....I wasn't even going to try to discuss the infinite variables it causes....

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I got one on a Winchester 270 the last yr. Winchester put them on their guns..it's a very accurate rifle..probably the most accurate I own..but I would never buy another rifle with a boss on it.

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wow, talk about a lot of good advice........

I guess I have to be the kid from the other side of reality.

I actually own the Browning composite stalker 7mm remington magnum rifle. I should be really careful, as I've not noticed any of the potentially maiming and disfiguring problems all these experts have noted........ I must be really lucky!!! Thank you all for saving me!!!!

that being said for flame bait, I have owned the rifle since NIB on clearance at Wal Mart for $300.00 - 12/01/97. The rifle is LOUDER than almost anything else I've shot, but the recoil reduction is IMPRESSIVE!!! I understand all the hearing damage - I wear foam plugs andmuffs at the range.Of course, I also do that when qualifying with my .40S&W at work :D. TheBOSS allegedly makes the barrel able to be tuned to the ammo you are using, plus the brake version reduces recoil. I must say that it works VERY WELL for both applications.This is easily the most accurate rifle I own.

BUT.....in all honesty, For hunting applications, I doubt the BOSSis necessary, since I never notice the kick or the noise when hunting anyway.I usually only shoot 1 or two times anyway. I have emptied the gun a few times. It shoots far better than I do - operator error is common with my shooting. My ears do ring for a few seconds - but they ring when I shoot any of my high powered rifles without protection. No one I know wears hearing protectionwhen hunting - whether they use a BOSS rifle or not. I notice no extra audio effects over and above what any normal hunting rifle produces when in a hunting situation.

The Boss will help at the range when sighting in,developing loads, and developing shooting techniques AKA practice. Bear in mind this is with the aforementioned hearing protection firmly in place. If you use a little lock tite and replace the nylon washer once in a while - it will stay in place.

The Boss brake version also produces - as previously accurately described - MUZZLE BLAST - which I must say is excellent . It will blow dust and snow off the ground from a kneeling or prone position. It will blow stuff all over the shooting bench - better paperweight those targets!!! This is after all a full power MAGNUM CALIBER RIFLE!!! For you own saftey, Please check your cream puffs at the door.

Finally, the barrel length IS an issue with me. This thing looks like a tank barrel in the woods, lol. The only thing I would change about my gun is that I'd like a caliber with a shorter barrel to make it easier to wander the woods, as I'm prone to do.
The non-magnum class guns have a 22 inch barrel including the BOSS (which actually only protrudes "approximately" an additional two inches past the end of the actual barrel). My gun has the 26 inch barrel and that means that 24" is actually barrel, with the last two being the BOSS body. I doubt that anyone can show me an appreciable difference between hitting a deer with a 150 g bullet going 2700 FPS vs. 2800 FPS, depending on two inches of barrel length. Flame on ballistics chartworms, I know there is some difference. Either way - Deer drop like they were struck by the laser from the death star. I have never had the misfortune of having to chase a deer - last count was around 15 with this gun. Some of those shots were,I am embarrassedto say in such esteemed andprofesional company,"less than perfect" (you may read things into that statement such as "damn, got her in the butt", "oh crud, gutshot", "whoo hoo, aimed for the head, got the chest") This gun has NEVER seen one run away or even still draw breath after a hit, period. Tosay I have confidence in it is the understatement of the year, lol.

As you might guess from my diatribe, I'm happy with mine - if that guy still wants to give his .300 Boss away cheap - I'll put it to good use.The only thing about my rifle is that for deer inWV - the 7mm mag might be a little overkill- and the .300 is a LOT of overkill here, lol!!!

Overall quality of Browning Rifles - in my opinion - is very good.The detachable magazine system is well constructed and very handy. The trigger is adjustable and seems pretty good on my gun - far better than my stock encore ormy remington 7400. The composite stock is very tough and well constructed. I'm not crazy about the non glare dull matte finish. I must confess, it never looks "clean" no matter how hard I try. A NIB Boss rifle can be had off the auction sites for between $500.00 - 650.00 depending on style.

They are a somewhat specific product. I highly recommend going to a place with many different makes of rifles and fingering them all for comparison. Since many people who have never owned one (as well as some who have owned one) often run them down as dangerous due to the brake, they are often found as old stock/NIB at a reasonable price.

In the end, it is a personal preference. I guess I just prefer BOSS rifles as it seems to work very well for me.

YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY!!!

Now I'll leave the rest to the "experts" to tell me all about my rifle. If you would like any other information, please request it specifically and I'll do my best, I'm not an expert afterall, just an actual owner.

Hope this viewpoint helps.

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Encore, that was a great reply to the questions! I think the Abolt is a great rifle and Browning makes a great product. I bought a .280 Rem A bolt Iin 1986 and have kicked myselfevery day for the last ten years for selling it. But the BOSS has to go. If you are in need of another one, let me know.

Good luck,
CE

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My ears rang for several minutes after firing a single round from my boss equipped 7mmremmag while hunting.Luckilymy following hearing tests indicate that I suffered no permanent hearing loss.A friend of mine was not so lucky.A single shot from his braked 300winmag did permanently damage his hearing.The damage can be done in as little as a single shot.

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I have owned2 rifles with muzzle breaks and they indeed do reduce recoil dramatically. It turned a .338 win mag into a .308 win recoil wise. What it also does is destroy your hearing and that can't be reversed. If you don't mind going deaf by all means buy one. I will never do that again.

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I have the boss on a stainless stalker .270 that I have had for several years.I do not use the muzzlebrake I use the conventional recoil attachment.I have never experienced it coming loose.Ido not put a lot of ammunition through this gun though.Only 20 rounds a year or so.It is fiercely accurate though after dialing it in.

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there is actually a great video about the dialing in of the BOSS system on - of all places - the browning website - surprise!!!

BTW - I'm looking for another BOSS rifle now - in 7mm-08 preferably stainless - if anyone happens to know where to find one.

Hey, it is a small world. I also had a friend, who knew a guy, who had a cousin, that delivered pizza, to a guy in a hotel room, that was cleaned by a woman, who had a son, that went deaf after picking up a riflewith a muzzle brake in a gunshop - he didn't even have to fire it, just picked it and BAM - damn thing made him deaf -He sued everybody - now he's a go-zillionaire.Funny thing is that now he owns all rifles with muzzle brakes. He says that since he can't hear them now anyway, he might as well get the ones he can shoot the best, lol!!! Be careful people - these gun thingys can be dangerous.


I guess the whole point I was trying to make was that gunfire is bad for your hearing, period. I'd say that if normal 7mm mag was X decibels, then for me, the 7mm BOSS would be X+20%. Either way, exposure to gunfire with unprotected ears is bad for you, but is X+20% really that much worse for you than X? Over the few sparse shots of a hunting season? Who knows - to each his own.

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Nice job Encore Pete......7 posts and already you are acting your age.....Guess everyone should go home and pray in the direction of West Virginia.

This site is meant for poeple with an open mind who like to have educated discusions. For some reason you obliously feel otherwise. Might I suggest you lose the attitude.

The are numerous very educated shooters on this board. You may or may not be one of them. However, that won't really matter to most of the members if you continue to shoot your mouth off as much as you claim to you shoot your boss...

This board is about fun and education....not about attempting to mock other members and their opinions.....please keep that in mind when posting in the future.

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Hey EncorePete,
Sorry I didn't realize you were a doctor. My doctor advised me to get rid of my muzzlebreaks ( he hunts & shoots ) and a close friend of mine who has shot breaks for years now has a hearing aid in both ears. At one point every guy I hunted with used them and now we have all sold them off. Not sure how old or how much hunting you do but hey you have the right to destroy your hearing and not listen to other experienced hunters mistakes. I hope you hunt alone as those things also damage whoever is standing next to you also.

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I have a browning 300wsm and a 7 mag with boss.Would I buy another boss NO WAY.The first time I shot the 300 I had forgotten to put my ear plugs in and dang I actuall hurt and my ears rang for a 1/2 hour or more.I shoot a lot at least one day a week and sometimes 3 or more days a week .
Have found that the boss is good for someone that only shoots factory bullets but can be something else trying to get a reload to the sweet spot.
To me the 7 mag the recoil is reduced quite a bit but the 300 it isn't as much
And in my opinion the boss is much louder than most of the other type of brakes,think it is the direction the holes are drilled that make it so much louder.
I only shoot these rifles off the bench but if I decide to hunt with them I will sure have ear plugs with me.

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Well, I guess I was a little strong with my statements.....hope I didn't offend anyone.....just wanted to put my .02 cents worth, since I own one of these guns. In my opinion, they are excellent. They are very accurate and I think the BOSS a wonderful implement that does reduce recoil. It also does significantly increase the noise of the gun as it is fired. Please use at your own risk.

I hope the above statement was as namby pamby politically correct as possible so as to avoid offending anyone here.

I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV, and Idid notstay at the Holiday Inn Express last night.

I am not an expert on anything, once again, I am simply an acutal owner of something for which information has been requested.

I was surprisedat the replies of folks who don't own one of these guns and feel free to state that they hate them. Every gun is different, and the gun you had 20 years ago or in some cases 40 years ago was different and is different than any other gun. I comment only on my gun, period.

If you do own one, and you hate it, by all means reply with all your hatredand fury!!! Blast away. Some here have seen fit to do that. That is there opinion, as this is mine. They are fully entitled to comment negativey, about the product requested, since they actually have the experience to back it up.

I am not a retired person with nothing better to do than go to the range everyday or sit in my basement looking at reloading equipment - that is still 15 years in my future. My shooting consists of probably what an averagehunter will do - maybe "slightly more".
My stereo may be too loud for most of you.

I'll concede the point that exposure to "gunfire" of any type will damage your hearing and might be able to do it with one shot - although I doubt the one shot thing. Once again, please don't shoot anything without muffs - you would't want to end up like that others guys buddy...and I'm not advocating that you do so.

The first time I shot my Glock 17 9mm - stupidly in college - without muffs - on the way home, I thought my car stereo was broken because the music sounded slowed and the announcer slurred. Nope, just a problem with my hearing due to exposure to 50 shots. Hearing came back - common sense must have also came back - never shot wihout muffs again unless hunting.

I am acting my age - 36 thanks - by responding to the information request I read by the original poster.I did not see a complete set of responses, so I responded. Ifreely admit that I flamed a number of posters on this thread, since blanket statements about any product rarely "cover" anything correctly. My statements are mine alone and not a review of anything. Just my experiences.

Please use common sense. I wear hearing protection when shooting at the range, Iuse plugs and muffs together. I hate the report and recoil of the gun because it make me flinch, which doesn't help me hit my target. I just get so used to shooting the rifle with the protection, that during the hunting seasons, it comes natural to shoot that same way even without the protection. For the record, I fire an average of 7 rounds during the month long WV hunting seasons and ususally kill 3-4 deer with those shots. I dont feel that 7 unmuffed shots is abusive to my ears, especially considering that the guys in the next valley are lighting it up with the remigton semi autos all the time. I usually work up about three laods to test each year using 150 or 140g bullets of various makes. I then load 30 rounds of that ammo for the hunting season.

Finally, the comment was made that having the BOSS does introduce extra variables into an already complicated reloading bench. This is absolutlety true - and sometimes frustrating. I had never considered it until now, but it is sometimes a PITA!!! I also muzzle loader hunt and I run into those variables there as well, so I guess I just like to tinker.

There is no need to bow towards WV for any reason. I am not a know it all. I am a know it some. It just so happened that what the guy asked about - I actually knew about personally. You may ask another million questions that I havent got a clue about.

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Here is a quote from chuckhawks website.

Here is a link that gives actual noise levels resultingfrom gunfire.

http://www.freehearingtest.com/hia_gunfirenoise.shtml

Here is another interesting link

http://www.sengpielaudio.com/TableOfSoundPressureLevels.htm


Notice that an increase of 10dba from 130dba to 140dba more thantriples the sound pressure.Therefore increasing the noise by only a few decibles greatly increases the danger of hearing damage.

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Thanks Stubble, I will save it!

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Encrepete,
actually my buddy who suffered major damage always wears muffs and plugs when at the range. Something I have always done also. His damage was done from shooting at game only without protection. He also owns a .270 browning Abolt that has the Boss on it. I have personally seen that rifle shoot onder 7/16" several times once he found the sweet spot. Not saying that the Boss is not effective, it works great although it does it while destroying hearing. Hey some people smoke and won't believe it will harm them. Enjoy yourself :eek:

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Wow, that is some interesting information.....

My ears rings for a few seconds after shots, but I can hear and talk. The ringing subsides in less than 30 seconds or so. Same effect as when my buddy cracked off the Ruger M77 30.06. I'm surprised that your friend suffered from just shooting at game, that sounds unusual to me, but I'm not in a position to doubt your word.

I am always careful with hearing protection - I wear it in the parking lot of the range when I get there - it's an outdoor range. The plugs or muffs by themselves have never been enough for me - I have to wear both. I now use the plugs with the electonic muffs - they work pretty well. I even wear this setup while shooting my pistols at qualifications.

I would think that if recoil was not a factor on a rifle, that the CR (conventional recoil) version, which is said to be supplied with all the new BOSS riflesnow, would assist is barrel tuning, without the additional noise.

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I know some people who use the boss attachment while at the range,for the big caliber shoulder pounders,and then when hunting change to the conventional recoil attachment.They have not found there to be significant accuracy difference's and they accomplish what they want to accomplish.
As previously stated I have a .270 a-bolt that came with both attachments,I wasn't concerned about recoil so I have never shot my rifle with the boss on it only the CR.I don't as of yet hand load and was frustrated by the out of the box accuracy I was experiencing with other rifles,so the ability to use a bullet that I wished to and adjust the gun to the bullet instead of the other way around appealed to me.It still does!

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That would imply to me that the Bossisn'teffecting hisaccuracy at all.
There is no way to guarantee that the barrel harmonics would be equal with two different boss's set at an "equal" setting,( of course tuning the barrel harmonics is whole idea behind theBoss.,right?).
His other choice would be to chose a ramdom setting when using his CR in hopes of matching the ported Boss's performance in which case any accuracy correlation would be exactly that, random.
This just implies he has an accurate gun, and at best the Boss isn't screwing it up.

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My assumption is that the cr attachment would also be shot at the range to see if in fact it was very similar in group placement to the boss attachment.If it isn't than of course that is not acceptable.In that case a simple solution is shoot the cr attachment only as I do but use a rifle rest that absorbs the recoil of the rifle instead of your shoulder,like the lead sled or others that accomplish the same thing.

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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but the BOSS system has nothing to do with recoil. Yes you can get one with a muzzle break, but you can get it without as well. So the question you should be asking is should you get a rifle with a muzzle break on it. Yes they are louder, but they also considerably reduce recoil on some rifles. The more recoil, the better the system seems to work.

However the boss system is designed to fine tune the harmonics on your barrel by adjusting the weight on the end of the barrel. This negates having to try several different brands of ammo and often handloading. Since all you are doing is finding a load that best works with your barrel harmonics. With this system you can pick any brand and load you want that fits your needs and tune the barrel to the load, not the other way around. It's sort of like tuning a bow to an arrow vrs buying several different types of arrow or messing with arrow length.

I have a friend that has two of these Boss systems. He swears by them and couldn't be happier. I have also seen the video produced by Browning and was pretty impressed. My buddy said his results were the same.

As far as losing velocity, I doubt you lose much. It becomes a point of diminishing returns after a while so the only way would really know is test one with a compensator and one without it to see what the differences are. Just using a compensator may reduce velocity regardless of barrel length. If you get the version without the recoil reducer it should not be an issue, the barrel length should be the same. I highly doubt the slight difference would effect the bullet trajectory or down range performance any way. This is sort of like arguing about 10 fps on a bow. You will never see the difference any way unless you use a chrono. In the real world you will not not notice at all.

I think brownings are great guns, I wish I could afford one.

Paul

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Tocs...that makes sense...

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Sorry I wasnt aware that they come with both peices so you can use it with or without. Were they always that way? I don't think my buddies has a compensator on it all, either one of them. I thought you could get it either way.

I still like the idea of it, and it's even better if you can choose between the two to see how it really works.

Paul

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I have designed, fabricated, and installed muzzle brakes for about 25 years. I generally don't use or recommend them personally for all the hearing loss reasons stated throughout this thread. In the past couple of years, however, I have discovered what seems to be a "free lunch" alternative. The Benchmaster and Caldwell Lead Sled shooting rests allow the shooter to fire very heavy calibers without the "ouch" factor - and I never feel the recoil when firing at game under field conditions. Buy one, and use it for all your guns.

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Paul that is not entirely correct. When Browning created the BOSS it alwalys had an integral muzzlebrake. Therefore, as it was originally designed it was synonymous with owning a muzzlebreak and recoil reduction.
Now however browning has created a non ported option (CR) as a result of all the complaints mentioned above.


From the browning website.......
"The BOSS-CR accessory offers all the accuracy advantages of the original BOSS device without the muzzle brake feature."

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That is 100% incorrect.Once the bullet leaves the actual barrel and enters the CR attachment,the expanding gasesare released topass around the bulletand no longerprovide a driving force onthe bullet.If you look at a CR attachment you will better understand this since the inside diameter of the CR is larger than that of the bullet or the barrel.

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Excellent point Roskoe. I would also add the Tite Group Series of benchrests to that group. The rests are about 13lbs..

http://www.titegroup.com/

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Nothing is perfect.The attachment at the end of the barrel is ugly and you do have to take the time to dial in the cr attachment.As an example I shoot 130 grain Barnes X's out of my .270,several years ago I spent probably three hours dialing that bullet in.I havn't moved the settings since and I continue to use that same bullet.Fortunately 130 grain corelokt's shoot virtually identically as the Barnes X's,so if I want to practice I am doing it at $12 a box versus $27 a box.
What has been mentioned here about the durability of the attachment concerns me.I always check mine to make sure it is snug and hasn't moved and I have never had a problem with it.My sense is with the attachment after the purchase you are a trigger job or replacement away from all the additional expense that that gun is likely going to need in terms of accuracy improvement.If I hand loaded it would be a different story.I have a Remington LSS mountain rifle in 30-06 that I have over $500 in accurizing gunsmithing inthat shoots great but not near as accurate as the Browning with not nearly as much money invested in the gun.
I purchased a tikka t-3 appx. two years ago in .243,I was influenced by all the gun writers who thought so highly of it.I went to the range with 5 boxes of different ammunition.One cheap box to get it close and 4 boxes of premium ammunition at $18 to $22 a box to see which load it liked.Trigger at 3.5 lbs great gun rest where my influence was minimal.This was a rifle that was "guaranteed "to shoot 1 inch groups out of the box.In fairness to tika I may have gottten a lemon.The best group I could get out of the gun was 1.5 inches with Scirrocco's.An inch and a half isn't awful but for a .243 it is not acceptable,I sold the gun.
For me the Boss/Cr alternative is a good one, beyond the original cost of the gun and a trigger job you should be able to achieve excellant accuracy without any additional expense!
I don't have many guns but what I have I want to perform.For most of the hard core people out there my stable is a small one (Mossberg 835 for Turkey's,T/C ENCORE .50 Caliber Muzzleloader,Browning A-Bolt .270,Remington Lss mountain rifle in 30-06,and a Remington 541 .22)I don't think there is anything I will ever hunt that one of the above wont take care of.
A Kimber .270 WSM has been calling out my name for some time now though!!!

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My own boss equipped rifle was accurate,but no more accurate than my non equipped boss rifles with proper handloads.As for the tikka t-3,I have helped develop loads for two of them and both would average right around 3/4" with their favorite loads.

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Hi Everyone:

This post has some great information, and I thought I would add the following:

1) Browning, et al, does not sell the BOSS with a real shoulder thumper.When they start selling them at .416 Rem+, recoil reduction becomes important. If you need recoil reduction with a .270, I'd suggest the rifle is poorly fitted.

2) The BOSS WILL COME LOOSE. 20 rounds a year won't do it, but if you shoottwo or three thousand rounds a year, buy extra bushings.

3) The CR and muzzle brake DO NOT have the same POI, but have the same adjustablility.

4) My .300 win mag shoots at .30-06 velocities, which is consistent with what you would expect with a 2" shorter barrel, about 300 fps slower. The shorter barrel counts ALOT to the reduced recoil. That isn't in the catalog though...

5) The video/brochure about "dialing in" is terrible. For the .300 Win, they list sweet spots for a few factory rounds, but NOTHING for more that 50% of the available bullet weights. Where do you start???

6) Someone said they were interested in the .300, it is still available...

CE

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Are you saying the shorter barrel has less recoil?

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If you use one of the recoil calculator formulas,velocity is one of the variables.If you reduce velocity,you supposedly reduce recoil.Therefore since the shorter barrel reduces velocity,it should also reduce recoil.