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Roskoe 07-09-2005 03:06 PM

RE: Remington SPS ????
 
OEH - I have as many Remingtons through my shop in one year than you haveowned in your entire life. They do vary a little in quality and there is some truth to the production demands of having big contracts with Wal-Mart and other big retail giants.

But Remingtons totally dominate every aspect of competitive shooting - at least where bolt action rifles are involved. And there are more aftermarket accessories available for Remingtons than just about every other bolt action combined. Quite a few are available only for Remingtons. Our military chose the Remington 700 as their official sniper rifle. Law enforcement sniper rifles are totally dominated by Remington. All this is no coincidence.

Roskoe

oldelkhunter 07-09-2005 03:09 PM

RE: Remington SPS ????
 

Wow! This tread has really heated up. From my experience, the above statement is pure horse hockey
Rank at the top where? Like I said before they have a excellent design ..they fail in the execution. Plenty of better values out there if you want a factory rifle. I will not deal with a factory Remington again..I will however use their actions in a custom rifle as well as a Model 70 or Mauser. Mr Texagun you can put me on the ignore list as well. No feelings hurt

oldelkhunter 07-09-2005 03:15 PM

RE: Remington SPS ????
 

OEH - I have as many Remingtons through my shop in one year than you haveowned in your entire life. They do vary a little in quality and there is some truth to the production demands of having big contracts with Wal-Mart and other big retail giants.
You know as a gunsmith you better damn have more guns come thru your shop your are a gunsmith arent' you?. Vary a little in quality? We will be on total disagreement on that for a long time.


But Remingtons totally dominate every aspect of competitive shooting - at least where bolt action rifles are involved. And there are more aftermarket accessories available for Remingtons than just about every other bolt action combined. Quite a few are available only for Remingtons. Our military chose the Remington 700 as their official sniper rifle. Law enforcement sniper rifles are totally dominated by Remington. All this is no coincidence.

Ok Roscoe, you need to read my posts as well since you obviously didn't. Those rifles that dominate competition are straight factory rifles now are they? Yeah right. The military sniper rifle is also right out of the box now isn't it? Like I said before a great design to build a custom rifle on but again I say no thanks to the production crap they put out..if you want a rough barrel, bolts that rest on one lug and very rough barrels go ahead and buy one. BTW why do you have so many remingtons come thru your shop?Must be the freaking excellent quality. I tell things the way I seee them I am no gunsmith but I have been around machinists, engineers and gunsmithsmy entire life and love guns and I can tell a f***ing donkey from a racehorse thank you.

texagun 07-09-2005 05:05 PM

RE: Remington SPS ????
 
"Plenty of better values out there if you want a factory rifle."

Exactly what would you recommend? I haven't found the "perfect rifle" yet....but I have enjoyed the search.

oldelkhunter 07-09-2005 09:13 PM

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Exactly what would you recommend? I haven't found the "perfect rifle" yet....but I have enjoyed the search.
Your robviously happy with your factory remingtons. and know a lot about guns no need for my input.:D.

James B 07-09-2005 09:44 PM

RE: Remington SPS ????
 
I have bought a ton of rifles and had my own gun shop for about 20 years. Onkly Savage and Remington right from the box have always shot sub one inch groups. Never seen one that wouldn't. I had to send one Savage back that had the scope base holes drilled out of line. Never yet have had to send back a Remington either for a customer or for myself with the exception of a 788 that the bolt handle came off of. When I buy a new rifle, Remington is always the first to be considered because they have always been deadly accurate and totally reliable.

From the polls that I see and the feed back and recommendations that I read on this site, those who have problems with them are sure in the minority. Therefore I quess I am not the only lucky one who has had good service from the 700 family of rifles. If I am just lucky then I will take it and be happy.:D

Roskoe 07-10-2005 10:42 AM

RE: Remington SPS ????
 
Oldelkhunter - OK - if you have been drinking again, its time to stop and sober up now. If you haven't, maybe its time to pour one . . .:)

Legions of folks who could spend their money on any rifle they wish bring Remingtons to custom gunsmiths to have them upgraded from over-the-counter factory rifles to custom rifles for various applications. Krieger barrels, Jewell triggers, McMillan stocks . . . And we go through the actions and true everything up. If Rugers or Winchesters were a better action for this application, then that's what we would be building them on. Or if Sako made a factory gun that was superior to a customized Remington, then we would all be shooting Sako's. But most folks are choosing Remington. Are we all victims of smoke-and-mirrors advertising?


James B 07-10-2005 02:06 PM

RE: Remington SPS ????
 
Roskoe. You are right. The poll on this very site shows that more than twice as many people prefer Remington to any other brand and I quess doubles the next two choices. Can,t be a fluke. I have had a couple rifles built on 700 actions but only because I couldn't get left hand bolts that I wanted or I had shot out the original barrel. This I did on at least two rifles. A 308 and a 30-06. Are they perfect? No are any of them perfect? No.

oldelkhunter 07-11-2005 06:06 PM

RE: Remington SPS ????
 

I have bought a ton of rifles and had my own gun shop for about 20 years. Onkly Savage and Remington right from the box have always shot sub one inch groups. Never seen one that wouldn't. I had to send one Savage back that had the scope base holes drilled out of line. Never yet have had to send back a Remington either for a customer or for myself with the exception of a 788 that the bolt handle came off of. When I buy a new rifle, Remington is always the first to be considered because they have always been deadly accurate and totally reliable.
I find this very hard to believe James I think this is a real story to be quite honest

oldelkhunter 07-11-2005 06:11 PM

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A very good friend makes a nice living fixing and upgradingremingtons and making them what they should be and hopefully Remington will continue their downward slide thereby keeping him in business. The last 17 years the quality had just been going steadily downhill with only the good ones being sold to JamesB.
Roskoe I thought I would post what I had written previously pertaining to remingtons and how they can be built into nice rifles. Seems your too lazy to look up my last posts and just want to shoot your mouth off. Remingtons are justt too inconsistent in quality for my tastes in a factory rifle when Savage and Howa, Sako and Kimber offer much much much more. I think the drinking comment was a little over the top but you know this is the internet and people talk trash all the time feel free even though you don't know me..BTW my buddy the gunsmith rarely has any time for anything being a full time gunsmith and all. How do you find the time to be replying to all these inquiries here?. HMMM i bet i know why you have all that free time


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