Toons

It is legal here in PA to use 410 for deer. most of the slugs i saw and bought are (1/5 oz.) on a 2 1/2" shells.I am going to try them at a 50 yd range ,i dont want to use them for any farther than 50yd.
Thanks

eldeguello

I hate to say this, but even the 12 and 20-ga. Foster-type slugs are marginal deer killers, and buckshot is even worse. Put either of these puny projectiles in a .410, and you have a recipe for disaster!!

Keep yore powder dry!!

1eyedfish

Dont think foster -type slugs are the newist or best designed around , but marginal i dont know , up close / heavy woods a reasonable distance & the big hole it puts into& threw deers chest didnt seem to marginal then , when .. that was the only gun of choice ( a shotgun) by law( to many d laws& lawmakers)
Starts out as a 76 cal a 12 gauge dosnt it? before any flating of bullets etc.
but im versatil /long as i can get out hunt things etc , butt to old, broken down for rock bolos& spears.
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IndyHunter

eldeguello
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I'm curious as to why you think that?


--Man who fish in other man's well often catch crabs--

boltman

I wouldn't use one for deer. It's an exceedingly poor choice and the game deserves better.

eldeguello

Indyhunter, I say that after having observed a great many deer over the past 40 years which were shot with both slugs and buckshot. I once saw a medium-sized doe at Crane Naval Ammunition Depot in IN.,(as a matter of fact), which ran by a line of hunters who all fired at her with 12-ga. slugs. She didn't break stride, ran over a hill, and continued another 200 yards before she fell. It was found that she had been hit with five 1-oz. 12 ga. slugs!! No blood trail!! Once (in VA saw a small spike buck travel over 1.5 miles with 3 00-buckshot through its' heart. If not for the fact that hounds were being used, this deer would have never been found!! People think that Foster-type slugs &quot;possess a lot of shocking power&quot;, when in fact they kill by hemmorage, just like a broadhead arrow. Their velocity is too low for shock! NONE OF THESE COMMENTS PERTAINS TO THE NEW SABOT-TYPE SLUGS LIKE THE WIN. PARTITON GOLD, WHICH ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF A .45/70!!

Keep yore powder dry!!

Toons

I tried some 15 WINCHESTER supper-X shots at the range from a 30yd ,the shots were flat but i am not sure about the energy they delever? i think i'll do some more testing may be place a 2x4 at 30yd and see what happens?
does any one have idea on how to check if the energy delevered is enough?
thans

Bulzeye

Don't know. Can't use smaller than 20 gauge in IL.

Keep 'em all in the Bull.

IndyHunter

eldeguello, guess we can agree to disagree on that subject (foster slugs being marginal). I've also seen deer that run a long way after being shot with a slug. But that was a result of poor shot placement, not the projectile. No different than an arrow or a rifle, if you don't put it where it is suppose to go then it probably isn't going to go down quickly. I've killed 9 deer with a foster slug, all out of a 20 guage. And only 1 of those ever moved after I shot (not a single one was a spine shot). Not marginal if you ask me. I can't comment on buck shot, never used it. I'm referring to 20 and 12ga, not 410 slugs.

--Man who fish in other man's well often catch crabs--

eldeguello

IndyHunter, I certainly agree with you that you have to hit in the right place, no matter what you are shooting...........

Keep yore powder dry!!