30-06 vs 7mag
06-11-2005, 07:14 PM
#12
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RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
they are close but the '06 is king for a reason. I hate paper tables cause they don't mean squat, however, lets look at the 175/165 gr comparisons by Mr Hornady.....OBTW, I own a 7 mag Tikka and a number of Sako '06's......
7mag..175 gr sp.....2800'/sec ( a wee bit of a stretch) 0 at 200, -7.7 at 300, -22.7 at 400.
energy.....2656/100, 2308/200, /1999/300, 1726/400....darn good.
'06.. 165gr btsp.....2900'/sec...(a wee wee stretch) 0 at 200, -7.3 at 300, -21.4 at 400.
energy.....2655 at 100, 2276 at 200, 1944 at 300, 1655 at 400.
Well, there goes the flatter theory....Gosh, they sure seem to be about even don't they? I like 'um both for elk and deer....both great cartridges. But remember...age before beauty and the 7 mag loves lots of powder!!!
Regards, Rick.
7mag..175 gr sp.....2800'/sec ( a wee bit of a stretch) 0 at 200, -7.7 at 300, -22.7 at 400.
energy.....2656/100, 2308/200, /1999/300, 1726/400....darn good.
'06.. 165gr btsp.....2900'/sec...(a wee wee stretch) 0 at 200, -7.3 at 300, -21.4 at 400.
energy.....2655 at 100, 2276 at 200, 1944 at 300, 1655 at 400.
Well, there goes the flatter theory....Gosh, they sure seem to be about even don't they? I like 'um both for elk and deer....both great cartridges. But remember...age before beauty and the 7 mag loves lots of powder!!!
Regards, Rick.
06-11-2005, 07:39 PM
#13
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 383
RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
ORIGINAL: handloader1
Their preformance is so close it's almost not worth the argument. [&:][&:] Good luck.
Their preformance is so close it's almost not worth the argument. [&:][&:] Good luck.
You're right. Not worth an argument but rather a discussion of the two carts. I shot both and would prefer a 7mm mag over a .30-06 in the field anyday. Just my opinion of course.
06-11-2005, 07:48 PM
#14
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2005
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RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
ORIGINAL: 48thguns
they are close but the '06 is king for a reason. I hate paper tables cause they don't mean squat, however, lets look at the 175/165 gr comparisons by Mr Hornady.....OBTW, I own a 7 mag Tikka and a number of Sako '06's......
7mag..175 gr sp.....2800'/sec ( a wee bit of a stretch) 0 at 200, -7.7 at 300, -22.7 at 400.
energy.....2656/100, 2308/200, /1999/300, 1726/400....darn good.
'06.. 165gr btsp.....2900'/sec...(a wee wee stretch) 0 at 200, -7.3 at 300, -21.4 at 400.
energy.....2655 at 100, 2276 at 200, 1944 at 300, 1655 at 400.
Well, there goes the flatter theory....Gosh, they sure seem to be about even don't they? I like 'um both for elk and deer....both great cartridges. But remember...age before beauty and the 7 mag loves lots of powder!!!Regards, Rick.
they are close but the '06 is king for a reason. I hate paper tables cause they don't mean squat, however, lets look at the 175/165 gr comparisons by Mr Hornady.....OBTW, I own a 7 mag Tikka and a number of Sako '06's......
7mag..175 gr sp.....2800'/sec ( a wee bit of a stretch) 0 at 200, -7.7 at 300, -22.7 at 400.
energy.....2656/100, 2308/200, /1999/300, 1726/400....darn good.
'06.. 165gr btsp.....2900'/sec...(a wee wee stretch) 0 at 200, -7.3 at 300, -21.4 at 400.
energy.....2655 at 100, 2276 at 200, 1944 at 300, 1655 at 400.
Well, there goes the flatter theory....Gosh, they sure seem to be about even don't they? I like 'um both for elk and deer....both great cartridges. But remember...age before beauty and the 7 mag loves lots of powder!!!
Regards, Rick.
06-11-2005, 08:25 PM
#15
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
Those numbers look to be close but they are misleading. Being that a 7mm bore is smaller than a 30 bore you have to compare bullets of different weights but similar lengths and BC numbers.
The larger the bore the faster the same weight bullet can be driven with the same case.
If you want to do a fair comparison when useing a 175 grain bullet out of a 7mm bore then you would need to choose a 200 grain bullet for the 30-06. A much fairer comparison between the two would be a 180 grain 30 caliber bullet and a 160 grain 7mm bullet. They have similar lengths, similar BC numbers, and similar SD numbers.
The larger the bore the faster the same weight bullet can be driven with the same case.
If you want to do a fair comparison when useing a 175 grain bullet out of a 7mm bore then you would need to choose a 200 grain bullet for the 30-06. A much fairer comparison between the two would be a 180 grain 30 caliber bullet and a 160 grain 7mm bullet. They have similar lengths, similar BC numbers, and similar SD numbers.
06-11-2005, 09:29 PM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Bradford, Ontario
Posts: 2,205
RE: 30-06 vs 7mag
I have owned both and killed moose with both. Flip a coin. I use the 7mmrem mag because its a little flatter shooting and with good loads develops a bit more energy than an 06. The moose don't seem to know the difference.