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gopher slayer 05-24-2005 05:12 PM

accubonds or scirocco
 
Im looking for a new load for my 30 06 these have cought my interest. i dont handload so i would be using factory loads from either remington or winchester. i will use them for hunting mule deer at ranges of 250 yards or less. i will be shooting for the vitals, but it present with a neck shot i will take it. what bullet do you think would be best and why?

oldelkhunter 05-24-2005 05:34 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
Since no 2 production rifles are the same your best bet is to buy a box of each and try them out. They should be equal in performance and work on the same size game. Thats the time proven albeit method I have used in the past when I only bought premium factory ammo. I see lots of guys take neck shots especially yahoos on the outdoor life network..you do realize that if the shot is low you have a deer running off with a destroyed windpipe which may run for a long distance ? Any animal is too magnificent to do that to. Just let them walk if the shot is not right. Shoulder or just behind it is the safe way to quickly put down some animal. That means using enough gun and with an 06 you have plenty of gun.

gopher slayer 05-24-2005 06:01 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
i worry about running animals but i have seen way more run from heart and lung shots, i dont care if its only 50yards I just dont like to see it, i know that high neck shtos will drop them. but i will try for the vital sholder shot first.

SWAMPMAN 05-24-2005 07:46 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
OEH,
A Texas heart shot will work in an emergency.;)

Roskoe 05-24-2005 09:44 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
I like your choice of bullets. After some experiences the past few seasons with the Scirocco's, I would look for a 165 grain if you can find it in a factory load. Great all around bullet for this caliber/velocity. 180 Accubonds have been good in the .300 Win Mag - should be great in the '06 as well. But this neck shot thing . . . listen to OEH, here. You have the horsepower to take a higher percentage shot. Unless its within bow range standing still, go for the heart/lungs.

gopher slayer 05-25-2005 06:22 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
Ive never been a remington fan, so i think ill try some accubonds. plus they look cooler with the redtip and lubox coating and nickle case.

oldelkhunter 05-26-2005 07:40 AM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 

Ive never been a remington fan, so i think ill try some accubonds. plus they look cooler with the redtip and lubox coating and nickle case.
Geez maybe you can get the tips in hot pink:D

SWAMPMAN 05-26-2005 08:46 AM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
Now there's a reason for a bullet selection.

Jeep4x4 05-26-2005 11:54 AM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
Accubonds.

Scirroco's are too expensive.

oldelkhunter 05-26-2005 12:12 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 

Scirroco's are too expensive.
According to the MidwayUsaa site quoting 270 140 grain Accubonds vs 270 130 grain Sciroccos it is approximately .06 cents extra for a Swift vs an Accubond.That would keep me from using a Swift bullet if proven to be a better shooting bullet.

Roskoe 05-26-2005 01:24 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
From what I've seen so far, the Scirocco's are a little better from a terminal performance standpoint - if they shoot well in your gun. So far, cost has not been a factor for me when it comes to hunting bullets. The Scirocco's could be twice as much and I would still buy them.

SWAMPMAN 05-26-2005 04:08 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
Down here(Alabama) there isn't a heck of a lot of difference in price between the Scirrocos and the Accu-bonds. Given the choice, I'd go with the Sciroccos.:eek:

Sixgun_Redneck 05-26-2005 05:19 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 

Geez maybe you can get the tips in hot pink
Oh, very clever.


Now there's a reason for a bullet selection
Thanks for the stupid comment.



Got anything better to do guys other than make retarded comments that nobody cares about.

SWAMPMAN 05-26-2005 06:12 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
Sixgun Redneck,
I was playing around with Gopher Slayer, you on the other hand obviously need to get a life.[:@]

bigcountry 05-26-2005 06:29 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
I never could get the sciroccos to shoot in my 300RUM. I went thru a box of 100. Different powders, and things. Also they build up pressure much quicker than a accubond.

Lastly, seeing the results of a 200lbs deer shot with them really turned me against them for anything over mulies. It flattened out like a pancake and didn't penetrate all the way thru.

Now accubond, I have got those babies to sing in two of my guns and working on the third.

gopher slayer 05-26-2005 06:49 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
did the accubonds do suffecient damge to the deers?. I'm kinda worried that its not going to expand enough. i think this because its rate for medium-heavy game to penitrate thick heavy mussel.

SWAMPMAN 05-26-2005 07:14 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
Gopher Slayer,
My only experience with the Sciroccos is on Whitetailed deer. It did a number on them. I wouldn't hesitate to use them again if necessary.:D

bigcountry 05-26-2005 08:20 PM

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did the accubonds do suffecient damge to the deers?.
To be honest I have been on this slug gun kick for 3 years or more, and havn't knocked down a deer with a rifle in that long. I have them shooting well however.

gopher slayer 05-26-2005 08:31 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
alright thanks for lettin me know

Roskoe 05-26-2005 08:37 PM

RE: accubonds or scirocco
 
My experience with the .30 caliber Scirocco's in the .300 Win Mag has been very good. The 180 gr. is about ideal for elk. Swift says the 165 grain is about at its upper limit on elk out of this caliber. The 150 grain Scirocco's were a little soft for elk even out of a .308 Winchester - Swift recommends them for deer sized game. Have killed a number of elk with the 130 grain .270 . Been right there when several were killed with the 150 grain 7MM out of a 7 Rem Mag. These bullets consistently put these big animals down hard. They expand to a big frontal diameter after they get through the ribs, making a very large wound channel through the lungs, and retain a good percentage of their of weight.

On the down side, the pure copper jacket fouls the barrel a little more than the accubond and builds a little more pressure at the same charge. It also seems that the accubonds break big bones a better - smaller frontal area - and penetrate maybe 25% more. But the Scirocco's, if your gun will shoot them, really put animals on the ground in a hurry - particularly with a broadside rib shot. I like 'em.

oldelkhunter 05-27-2005 06:17 AM

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Oh, very clever.
Sixgun_redneck maybe you should be reading all the posts before you go shooting your mouth off. Take Swampmans advice and get a life. If you had bothered reading the previous posts here is what you would have found.


Ive never been a remington fan, so i think ill try some accubonds. plus they look cooler with the redtip and lubox coating and nickle case.

147 Grain 06-08-2005 12:02 AM

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Go for the AccuBond!

It will provide better expansion and more penetration, in addition to being very accurate in a wide variety of weapons / bullet weights.


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