Bullet weight and energy per pound of animal
05-24-2005 | 12:37 PM
#31
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bullet weight and energy per pound of animal
ORIGINAL: zrexpilot
Its right there with the -06
I'll just some it up at ..............300 yds
25-06 115 nosler partition....fps...2300
.243 100 fed bt..........................2380
.............................energy
2506.......................................1350
.243.......................................1260
.............................drop
25-06......................................6"
243.........................................6.8
not a whole lot of diffence that one could tell if shooting a deer.
zrexpilot,
Make that same comparison using a 25-06 or a 257 Weatherby mag instead of using
Make that same comparison using a 25-06 or a 257 Weatherby mag instead of using
I'll just some it up at ..............300 yds
25-06 115 nosler partition....fps...2300
.243 100 fed bt..........................2380
.............................energy
2506.......................................1350
.243.......................................1260
.............................drop
25-06......................................6"
243.........................................6.8
not a whole lot of diffence that one could tell if shooting a deer.
What no comments on this comparo.
05-24-2005 | 01:07 PM
#32
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From: SW Virginia
RE: Bullet weight and energy per pound of animal
Zrex:
A .243 makes a .257 look like a cap gun. It is quite a bit more effective than the .257.
A .243 makes a .257 look like a cap gun. It is quite a bit more effective than the .257.
oops - forgot, velocity is "everything"
Ive actually been seriously thinking about the .260 rem as maybe my next gun purchase.
05-24-2005 | 02:18 PM
#33
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RE: Bullet weight and energy per pound of animal
I have seen everything now. Someone actually compared a boattail to a Partition. All I can do is shake my head. Boatails are notorious for slipping cores, especially in the .243 caliber. A partion is going to penetrate, period. No questions asked, a Partition is one of the greatest bullets ever designed. It will get the job done.
I do need to know. If Zrex were facing a grizz would he rather have his .243 with a 100 grain boattail or a factory loaded .45/70 405 grain Remington. The .243 is faster and has more kinetic energy but the .45/70 will get the job done whereas the 243 won't.
Zrex,
Choose the better elk cartridge .270, .280, .30/06, .35 Whelan or a 9.3x62. All have about the same kinetic energy (that's how educated people to refer to ft/lbs). How do you choose? I would use all but the Whelan or the 9.3 would have more thump. Those large bullets moving at moderate speed get the attention of any animal.
Dr Fatguy
I do need to know. If Zrex were facing a grizz would he rather have his .243 with a 100 grain boattail or a factory loaded .45/70 405 grain Remington. The .243 is faster and has more kinetic energy but the .45/70 will get the job done whereas the 243 won't.
Zrex,
Choose the better elk cartridge .270, .280, .30/06, .35 Whelan or a 9.3x62. All have about the same kinetic energy (that's how educated people to refer to ft/lbs). How do you choose? I would use all but the Whelan or the 9.3 would have more thump. Those large bullets moving at moderate speed get the attention of any animal.
Dr Fatguy
05-24-2005 | 02:34 PM
#34
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RE: Bullet weight and energy per pound of animal
BC. What grain bullet would a guy need to equal things up for Buffalo? I quess the 22-250 and 220 Swift are plenty of gun for a 2 lb prairie dog
. I don't think I would want to shoot the Buffalo gun.
. I don't think I would want to shoot the Buffalo gun.
05-24-2005 | 02:53 PM
#36
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From: Ironwood, Michigan
RE: Bullet weight and energy per pound of animal
I changed the subject. Answer the questions. The point is, an animal is an animal. The bullets matter. Kinetic energy is wonderful and all but not the only consideration. This is my point with the cartridges named. For deer please tell me why you would pick a boattail over a Partition? This is the mystery for me.
Dr Fatguy
Dr Fatguy
05-24-2005 | 04:07 PM
#37
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bullet weight and energy per pound of animal
The comparo above was just ballistics between the 25-06 and the .243. Not even talking about bullets just the ballistics. I picked the partition in the 25 cause it was the flatest shooting I was just showing the .243 is comparable to the .25. In "Kinetic energy" and bullet drop.
But now that were talking about bullets, I would choose a softer more expanding bullet because of the deer size I hunt. they rarely get to 150lbs. to me a partition would just blow throught without expanding. To be honest I like the 85gr holow points in my .243 for deer.
But now that were talking about bullets, I would choose a softer more expanding bullet because of the deer size I hunt. they rarely get to 150lbs. to me a partition would just blow throught without expanding. To be honest I like the 85gr holow points in my .243 for deer.
05-24-2005 | 04:15 PM
#38
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RE: Bullet weight and energy per pound of animal
ZRex:
To be honest I like the 85gr holow points in my .243 for deer.
To be honest I like the 85gr holow points in my .243 for deer.
Let me guess, they give you more velocity than 100gr.
05-24-2005 | 04:21 PM
#39
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Bullet weight and energy per pound of animal
ORIGINAL: Virginia7
That figures! [:@] Dang varmint bullets being used for deer hunting! %@/*#+!##@&$%
Let me guess, they give you more velocity than 100gr.
ZRex:
To be honest I like the 85gr holow points in my .243 for deer.
To be honest I like the 85gr holow points in my .243 for deer.
Let me guess, they give you more velocity than 100gr.
they kill faster, and theyre not varmint bullets.
05-24-2005 | 05:04 PM
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From: SW Virginia
RE: Bullet weight and energy per pound of animal
ZRex:
To be honest I like the 85gr holow points in my .243 for deer.
.......
and theyre not varmint bullets.
To be honest I like the 85gr holow points in my .243 for deer.
.......
and theyre not varmint bullets.
243 WIN. (6.16X51MM) SIERRA GAMEKING BTHP PREMIUM VITAL*SHOK®
Federal Load No.: P243D
Caliber: 243 Win. (6.16x51mm)
Bullet Weight: 85 / 5.51 (Grains / Grams)
Bullet style: Sierra GameKing BTHP
Use: 1
1-Varmints, Predators, Small game, 2-Medium game, 3-Large, Heavy game, 4-Dangerous game, 5-Target shooting, Training, Practice
Now, you go argue with Federal! 85gr. HPBT's were meant to be used for prairie pups,
chucks, coyotes, and such. Not intended for use on deer (= #2 = medium game).