ok just wondering. whats the flattest shooting factory load/caliber?

If we' re talking magnums, Gotta be Lazzeroni Firebird or Warbird.

I' m not sure. The Lazzaronis are not what I' d call " factory" . I think the 25.06 would have to be one of the flattest.

Dang, now see what you' ve done. I' m gonna have to get out my manuals and look now. I hate when that happens!!

The 257wby mag,7mmultramag and 30-378 would all be contenders if you are not including lazzeroni.

It used to be the 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. Don' t know if its been replaced at the top or not.

ok now how about in a varmint caliber. i was always under the impression you couldent top the 22-250 but what abou the new 243 and 223 wssm?

The 30-378 Weatherby is awfully tough to beat on that one. If you want to pay less than $80 a box for ammo it is probably the 7mm or 300 Ultra Mag.

If your going to include the lazzeroni then you need to include the .257 hot tamale. A new round that is flat enough to kill deer at 500yards without holdover or scope adjustment.

Why would you NOT consider the Lazzeroni calibers as " factory" ? They are built by three different builders (Lazzeroni has his guns " assembled" by some of the greatest in their specific fields, Sako and Savage build the other two.) he has a network of dealers on several continents and a QUICKLY growing customer base. LOL, that being said I will put my Warbird with 130 Xbullets up against ANYTHING available over the counter!!! (BTW the 257 Scramjet Lazz isnt as fast and since those light 25cal bullets dont retain velocity as well, the cartridge is' nt as flat as the Warbird with 130s or the Firebird with 120s. But a friend of mine shoots 350# whitetails on his Kansas lease with his L2000 Scramjet and it IS a neat round. The huge case simply is overbore with anything much under 7mm bullets tho so a large performance increase over a hot 257 Wby isnt very well noticed. Its strength lies in the fact that it just as easily drives 120grain 257s as easily as it does 95 grainers.)

If we are talking about " wildcats" I am VERY interested in the .375/50BMG. A 275grain bullet leaving the muzzle at 5100fps MUST be fun (despite barrel washing rather quickly! ) and Godawfully powerful and flat [][][]

Beam me up Scottie,
RA

Because you can' t go to Wal-Mart, or any place like it, and buy the ammo off the shelves.