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Age old question... 12 ga or 20 ga?
07-27-2014, 07:15 PM
#11
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: dead center of hatfield mccoy territory
Posts: 108
here in southern wv, (mingo county) we are not allowed to use a gun, of any kind, on anything bigger than a ground hog.
coyote are the only exception i know of, they can be hunted year round. with just about anything you like...
07-28-2014, 11:26 AM
#12
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 17
With today's sabots and firearms, there is no need to subject yourself to the recoil of the 12ga., the 20ga. will take down what the 12ga. will without the recoil. The 20ga. is similar to a .50 caliber muzzleloader, people never question that .50 caliber. I do like the 3" shells for the 20ga., and the 2-3/4" for the 12ga. I own many slug guns in both gauges. To me the most accurate gun I own is the Savage 220f with Remington Accutips, next would be my H&R Ultra Deluxe, then my Remington 1187 (12ga & 20ga), my Mossberg 500, and my Ithaca in 12ga & 20ga.
May I ask why the M2? I think the Benellis are fine shotguns but are over priced for a slug guns, for waterfowl maybe worth the dollars. Save yourself money and buy something else, if a semi is what you want get yourself : http://www.remington.com/products/fi...etic-deer.aspx
with the money saved get yourself a quality scope, like Leupold VX-2
If you want a dedicated shotgun then look into: Savage 220f, or 212, H&R Single Shot, Browning A-Bolt
I think with today's slugs you will be happy with the results of the 20ga.
May I ask why the M2? I think the Benellis are fine shotguns but are over priced for a slug guns, for waterfowl maybe worth the dollars. Save yourself money and buy something else, if a semi is what you want get yourself : http://www.remington.com/products/fi...etic-deer.aspx
with the money saved get yourself a quality scope, like Leupold VX-2
If you want a dedicated shotgun then look into: Savage 220f, or 212, H&R Single Shot, Browning A-Bolt
I think with today's slugs you will be happy with the results of the 20ga.
The draw backs for me on the 11-87 is it seems "bulky" to me. Don't get me wrong I'm a 6'1" 210 lb hefty guy. I'm not afraid to shoot anything and for years when I "did" bird hunt I used a 12 ga as a small boy, that is not the issue. The other draw back was it weighs in hefty at 8.5 lbs for the 12ga and 7.5 lbs for the 20 ga. The M2 comes in at 7.3 and 6.5 respectively which make a difference when carrying it all day as a spot and stalk hunter.
As a reloader of metallic shells I look at ballistics on a lot f different guns and cartridges and will do the same when I purchase this gun to find the "best" fit for this gun. from the charts I have seen on various factory ammo I was of the same opinion that todays sabots in 20 are just as effective as the 12. But, I wanted to hear from folks with first hand knowledge since I have been mostly a rifle hunter for quite awhile.
I agree with you that the benelli, and most other high end guns, are quite pricey but I also am confident this gun will outlast me as would a 11-87. That basically brings it down to while in the field am I gonna b*&ch about bulkiness or weight? Knowing me like I do :-) I will...
The A-Bolt and Savage both seemed "stiff" with the action but that is probably because I am spoiled with the butter smooth action of my Tikka 270 WSM
07-28-2014, 11:30 AM
#13
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 17
Not this guy though. I have a Tikka 270 WSM for cow elk that has that 200 yd zero and 3 shot groups I could cover with a nickel and the reach out and touch something range.
Still a tough choice... gun or hunt?
07-28-2014, 11:44 AM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Warren County NJ USA
Posts: 3,899
My friend's son brought his first shotgun last year, he just deer hunts and wanted a Benelli but for a week's worth of hunting it was a wise purchase. I told him to get the 1187 with the Monte Carlo stock, but he didn't listen. He mounted a scope and with the normal stock vs the Monte Carlo stock what a difference, the scope lines up so much better the MC stock. Yes there are better semi auto shotguns on the market, but for the money you can't beat the 1187 or the 1100 from Remington
The action on the Savage could be stiff/rough, I lapped the bolt and bolt rails, and it became smoother, and I agree even with it done it's not as smooth as my Sako
Here is a picture of my two 1187s (20ga on top, 12ga on bottom)
The action on the Savage could be stiff/rough, I lapped the bolt and bolt rails, and it became smoother, and I agree even with it done it's not as smooth as my Sako
Here is a picture of my two 1187s (20ga on top, 12ga on bottom)
07-29-2014, 07:38 AM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Clermont Florida U.S.
Posts: 4,970
Age old answer... buy whichever you like. I'd go for the 20ga myself. Ithaca makes a nice pump, and if ya got the $, Tar Hunt is a beast. I'm not a Remmy fan but would take a Browning A-Bolt also.
07-30-2014, 03:14 AM
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: WY
Posts: 2,056
Easy choice. Hunt.
There's always going to be some piece of gear on our wish list. Never let the wish list compromise that hunting season you'll never get back.
I figured you had a rifle already and it was a choice between a slug gun or an elk hunt.
There's always going to be some piece of gear on our wish list. Never let the wish list compromise that hunting season you'll never get back.
I figured you had a rifle already and it was a choice between a slug gun or an elk hunt.
07-31-2014, 08:08 PM
#20
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Posts: 5,130