100% the 20ga can take down deer as quickly as the 12ga, without the recoil, I love my H&R in 20ga

I agree....the 20 is sufficient.....and for upland birds it's also the gauge I choose

As I understand it H&R uses the same barrel for both.As such the 20 will be a little heavier but that will help reduce recoil even more.It will also add stiffness for better accuracy.

thanx for the help what is a good price for the 20 ultra slugger

Most places have them for around 250 with the laminated stock which would be my choice.Good luck!