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jjo 03-14-2003 02:26 PM

rem 7400?
 
i' m buying a rem 7400 in 270. if any of you guys have one ,what do you think. how do they handle. i' ll be shooting factory loads. what seems to shoot better out of your gun. thanks



jjo

Ruger-Redhawk 03-15-2003 05:41 PM

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I personally would stay away from Remington semi auto' s.The old 740' s 742' s and 7400' s have been given the name " Jam masters" .You would be much better off getting more money together and buying a Browning BAR.I' ve HAD two model 742' s (30-06)and was never satisfied with either of them.Notice I said HAD.First chance I got I sold both of them.Use you own judgement.
Ruger Redhawk

stubblejumper 03-15-2003 09:18 PM

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The only experience I have had with 7400' s is to try to help a couple of friends try to stop theirs from jamming.

LARRY338 03-16-2003 04:57 AM

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Ive had my hands on dozens of the various jam masters, and these rifles require more attention than your average hunter is willing to devote to keeping a rifle shooting. Mainly they require cleaning after shooting. Something most deer hunters dont know anything about. They have put alot of money in the pockets of mom and pop gunshops though. I doubt if it will matter what ammo you try first. Just try several and pick the best. One thing about gas operated guns is that you need to be careful not to zero it hot. Its a pain to wait, but they will shoot erratically when hot. Let it cool between shots and go back and check zero when the gun is completely cooled. Good luck.

Ruger-Redhawk 03-16-2003 08:37 AM

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Looks like we all have about the same opinions about the Remington semi auto' s.jjo if you haven' t bought it yet I would rethink your purchase.
Ruger Redhawk

deerslayer444 03-17-2003 09:29 PM

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I bought a .270 model 7400 this past season and was quite pleased with it. Not had any problems at all as of yet. They are like most semi-autos in that they like to be cleaned after each outing, which is something I do with all of my guns. I didn' t have time to work up any handloads before hunting, so I used Winchester Ballistic Silvertips in 130 grain with good results. Not to open a can of worms here, but it would seem Remington has been producing these rifles long enough now to have the bugs worked out.

soarkrebel 03-17-2003 10:18 PM

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I have owned a 742 for 20+ years and it has never jammed. looks like it just came out of the box! key to not jamming? as with any semi auto keep it clean!

Now would i buy one today? NO! i prefer bolt action rifles. one should only need one shot. so why not buy a single? i would.

If this old remington didnt have sentimental value i would sell it and get a single shot!

MinnFinn 03-19-2003 07:22 PM

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If you plan to use it for 125 yds. or less with a decent scope, it can work for you. You' ll have a hard time getting to less than 4 in. groupings at that range. That may be good enough for you. In cold weather (10 degrees or less) you have to be very careful to have just the lightest bit of good gun oil or none. I have a 7400 in 30-06 for a brush rifle in northern MN. Where I hunt with it, I never get a shot greater than 100 yards.

I think there are other autos (e.g. BAR), which are better, but of course they cost considerably more. I' m personally moving away from autos to quality bolt-action (Tikka) with a better scope (Leopold) the next time I buy a big game rifle.

MinnFinn

Quilly 03-21-2003 03:05 AM

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don' t buy one.!!![:o]

i had the same exact one/ spent tons of money to be able to keep the gun. bought new magazines (3) and tried almost every types of ammo and bullet weights from round nosed to spitzers to ballistic tips and she still jammed. but found that the gun did not like 140gr at all.

ave your money and buy a BAR . i have one and she has not became a " one shot " rifle.

LeeinVa1 04-17-2003 11:51 PM

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i HAD one, tried to give it to my brother and he did not like it, ended up GIVING it away to someone that needed a rifle. problem i had with it was the weight, expecially once you added a scope to it. sure hope i did not ruin that guy for the rest of his life.

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stubblejumper 04-18-2003 12:51 PM

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A properly placed first shot always beats faster follow up shots.

trailer 04-18-2003 01:06 PM

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Since the subject of Rem.semi auto is up . I have a Rem 742 that my dad gave me. My dad never mentioned that he had any problems. I haven’t used it yet so has anyone ever used the 308 caliber and had any problems and does the length of the cartridge make a difference for jamming?

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GTBuzz 05-13-2003 08:46 PM

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I personally think they are junk. The ones I have seen are very picky with ammo and prone to jam.

If I were you I would consider a 7600 intead. The Remington pump has a free floated barrel and has accuracy that will rival many good bolt action rifles. Mine will shoot 1.5" to 1.8" groups at 200 yards. They don' t jam and they are very fast for followup shots as well.

The worst thing about a 7400 is that if you ever decide to get rid of it, you will practically have to give it away. Much the same can be said for the 7600 - but at least it' s a far superior rifle to the 7400.

Ruger-Redhawk 05-31-2003 05:45 PM

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Have you guys ever noticed how many people ask questions and never come back to see the answers? jjo for one has asked about this Remington Jam Master' s. Never a comment back one way or the other. I' ve seen this allot lately. What gives?If it' s not that important why ask to begin with?Am I the only one noticing this?I' m not singling out jjo. There are plenty to go around.
Ruger Redhawk

strut 06-01-2003 01:17 PM

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I have never owned a 7400 but I do have a model 4 in a 7mm express and had some 742s, never had a jamming problem but they do lack alittle in being able to produce a good group.

Judson 06-01-2003 06:06 PM

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Oh yes, the WAM BAM WATCH IT JAM. Think about it, if you have one of these jems in either .308 or .3006 and you dump the clip as the Red necks here in Maine often, do then you have expended more energy, if you hit, on a poor little 180 pound White Tail deer then the Average African hunter does on a 12,000 pound Elephant which is one hell of alot harder to kill. Bottom line is one hit, the first one, in the vitals is all it takes!!!!!!!!!!!

neweboarhunter 06-02-2003 12:38 AM

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I second what stubblejumper said about the first shot

roofinman 06-20-2003 09:04 PM

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my dad has taken several bucks at 400 plus yards with his 742 30-06 and has never had a single problem with jamming. i myself have a 7400 30-06 and have never had a problem with it. we always clean uor guns after each use. most of the people complaining probobly clean their guns once a year if their lucky and ride around with them in their trucks everyday letting them fill up with dust and dirt and it sticks to the oils in the barrels and actions then their problems start and they start blaming the gun when its their fault

liquidorange 06-24-2003 02:34 PM

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i too have had a 742 in 308 and never a jam. i took it caribou hunting in -20 degree temperatures with ice and snow even getting in the action.i have had bolt actions that when its 20 degrees out become hard to operate mostly because the shooters hands are too numb to cycle the action all the way through causing jam ups.

Todd1700 06-24-2003 02:59 PM

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I still own a model 7400 in 30-06. It was the first gun I ever bought with my own money. It is no longer my primary hunting rifle but to my knowledge it has never jammed on me or anyone who has used it. And I am not an obsessive gun cleaning freak either. Just gave it occasional routine cleanings. In fact I broke it out a couple of weeks ago and shot a box of bullets through it and they cycled through it fine.This is a very common gun where I live and never in my 37 years of life have I heard of it being particularly prone to jamming. Not calling others a lie or anything. I' m just telling you my personal experience with it. Also it may not match the 3 shot groups one can achieve with a high grade bolt action rifle but I never had trouble killing deer out to 200 yards with it and feel certain I could have killed them even farther if necessary.

Tal/IL 06-26-2003 07:47 AM

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I have a 742 in .243 and a friend has one in .308. Both are very reliable - I can' t recall a jam with either - and their accuracy is on a par with most hunting rifles of any action type.

oldelkhunter 06-27-2003 08:50 AM

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All I can say is whoever has one for any period of time and never had a problem with theirs is truly a lucky person and should plan on staying in Vegas for a week. I am usually a little slow in finding out things when it comes to gun manufacturers and gave Remington 3 tries on three different 742,7400' s to get it right and they didn' t. Can' t believe the state of CA has this under the assault weapon category(is this true?) its a single shot rifle.

bigcountry 06-27-2003 02:25 PM

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I have one. I love it and hate it. But it was my first real gun that I had of my own without borrowing. It has never jammed. And won' t if you keep that gas port cleaned out and the the old oil cleaned out of your action. I do with pipe cleaners. More poeple use welding torch cleaners.

I have to say for reloading, it has been the toughest gun I ever reloaded for. its a 270 also. 4064 won' t cycle. Varget won' t cycle. Only thing that will cycle is 4350, but with 1.3" accuracy at 100 yards with Sierra 130gr bullets. I am satisfied with that.

Bad part is the forarm screw. Depending on how tight it is, your point of impact can and will change 8" at 100 yards. I have had many a friend tell me different in theres, and blame POI on bad scopes, bad bases, etc. But when I get them to the range, I show them this and they are amazed they spent money on new scopes and all. This is a pain the a$$.

For a guy like you, I would stay away from it. I dearly love mine however cause its got me more deer than some hunters get in lifetime. And will always use it. This will be the first year, I probably won' t use only this gun for deer in rifle countys. Got a new Medallion I plan on using some also.

Look into the BAR. I have traded these semis for along time, and they are the least jammin Semis you can get in my opinion. But I have seen them jam also. Due to manufacturing defects and poor cleaning practices.

270 is probably the worse caliber to get in a semi. You have a really limited window of operation when it comes to finding a powder that cycles correctly and shoots well if you reload. Might look into a 30-06.

canadajim 07-21-2003 08:09 AM

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i have had a 7400 in 30-06 for about 12 years now. when i first got it, it did jam but i believe it was because of the way i cleaned it. to much oil. a local smith told me to use a dry teflon lube on the action. has never jamed since. i have put alot of rounds through this gun. in my opinion i would not buy another one. i would stick with a bolt. i love this gun because it was given to by my father.

yellowlabman 07-22-2003 08:29 PM

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I own a mid 80' 5 model 74 sportsman in 30-06. It is the same as the 7400, only a lower grade of wood with no checkering and it has a matte blueing. The only problem I have ever had with it was the action hanging up while chambering a round in -0 temps. That was back in the day before Rem oil (Teflon). Since I switched to Rem oil, I have not had any problems. Just clean it after every outing and they are fine in my opinion.

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bigcountry 07-23-2003 12:37 PM

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Russ, do you mean, your POI dont change when you tighten down that forarm screw or loosen it. If yours don' t, then you have a one in a 1000. Due to their design, that screw puts or takes away pressure on the barrel

WV Hunter 07-25-2003 12:19 PM

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The 2 people I know that have 7400' s have problems with jamming. My father in laws jams almost every time he uses it. He took it to a gunsmith, they worked on the clip...they said that was a common problem. He got it back, and it jammed just like before. $60 down the drain because he said he didn' t care and wasn' t taking it back to get it fixed right. Personally I' d get a bolt or a pump if you want a Rem. If you are set on a semi, look at a BAR. I know a couple folks that have those and they work excellent.

canadajim 07-25-2003 04:39 PM

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the rem 7600 is extremely accurate. the barrel is free floating. this is a better choice than the 7400.

MR300WM 07-26-2003 06:46 AM

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My first high power rifle was a Rem 7400 in 270. I still have it and I have never had any problems with jamming. The rifle is very picky with ammo though and any change will send me to the range to check scope settings. Bigcountry I haven' t noticed that the forearm screw causing a shift in point of aim but I will watch for it now. My load for years is 46grs of IMR4604. 150gr Hornady bullet. RCBS small base dies and a light crimp in the cannalure. The cannalure was the reason for picking the Hornady bullet as I wanted to crimp. I recently tried some of the loads for my sons 270 and they shot fairly good in this gun and have me thinking of trying some differant loads in this gun.

bigcountry 07-28-2003 10:37 AM

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Man, about a decade ago, I blaimed this POI change on everything from the mounts, to the scope. Finally, a friend told me about this screw issue. So being the nonbeliever I am, I had to test for myself. Sure enough, he was right. Give it a try. Tighten that screw very tight, shoot some groups. Then loosenabout 4 twists. You will be surprised. I just take it to the range and shoot 3 shots before the day of hunting. And don' t clean until after the season or I get my limit.

Quilly 07-31-2003 05:07 AM

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if you notice no one has problems wit the older remingtons. could that be a possible trend in how they make them now?

MinnFinn 08-01-2003 02:52 PM

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I had a Rem 742 and then 7400 (slightly updated version of the former). I' d say that for both, the most important thing I' ve found to keep it operating well is to keep the bolt and chamber clean, clean, clean and use very little of a high-quality lubrication. This is especially true in cold weather ( 10 degress of lower).

I think that their manufacturing tolerances and the bolt locking mechanism are 2 reasons why many people end up with 1 shot, manual ejection of the spent casing or manual setting of the live round.

With my latest high-power rifle purchase, I' ve gone to a Tikka bolt-action. I know that it' ll hit what I aim at and it' s up to me to eject and load another round, if need be.

MinnFinn

remington_nc 08-02-2003 08:09 PM

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Go look at one and decide for yourself. Some people love em' some hate em' , same as gun makers.

bigcountry 08-29-2003 01:43 PM

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And if ya luv em, I got one for a good price[8D]

purep7646 09-04-2003 03:42 PM

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my dad has taken several bucks at 400 plus yards with his 742 30-06 and has never had a single problem with jamming. i myself have a 7400 30-06 and have never had a problem with it. we always clean uor guns after each use. most of the people complaining probobly clean their guns once a year if their lucky and ride around with them in their trucks everyday letting them fill up with dust and dirt and it sticks to the oils in the barrels and actions then their problems start and they start blaming the gun when its their fault
I agree! I bought one last year after using one of my uncles for a couple years. He has had his 7400 270 for years and has never had a problem with it because he cleans it after he fires it. My cousin has one and has never had a problem with his. I shot a couple boxes last year with my new 7400 270 and had no problem. I was going to buy a BAR but I figured if I kept the 7400 clean it wouldn' t mess up so I saved some money (a lot IMO) and bought the 7400. If you want a semi and don' t care about spending the extra $$$ go for the BAR but the 7400 will do just fine if you keep it clean (every gun should be cleaned after being used). Clean your gun or blame yourself (not the gun) when it messes up.

RustyOlRanger4x4 09-07-2003 08:35 PM

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i just got one last night for a graduation gift from my dad it seems like theres a 50/50 split on people that like it and dont hopefully mine will work well i havent got to shoot it yet. but it sounds like i need to keep it reallllllllly clean anyone got any tips on cleaning/ disassembling it? and what lube should i use for it? thanks,sean

bigcountry 09-07-2003 09:15 PM

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Quote
my dad has taken several bucks at 400 plus yards with his 742 30-06 and has never had a single problem with jamming. i myself have a 7400 30-06 and have never had a problem with it.

Man its getting deep in here. Got to put on the hip waders. Best accuracy you can get is about 2" consistently. So I bet groups at 400 yards is 10" . Man, thats irresponsible hunting.


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