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What should I do? Scope repair question
Thanks in advance for any responses.
I have a Bushnell Elite 3200 Rifle Scope w/ Rainguard. For me an expensive scope, about $200 a number of years ago. I put it on an inline muzzleloader, worked great. Moved it to a Rem 870 12 gauge and worked fine for a year or two. Now it seems to not hold its zero and doesn't respond the way it should to adjustment. To rule out the gun and because I wanted another gun, I bought an H&R Ultra Slug gun and put the scope on it. Same problem. We ruled out the shooter by my son shooting it and I his gun and the terrible groups went with the gun with that scope. I know some people say don't put a rifle scope on a shotgun, but does the shotgun kick any harder than one of those big African Magnums. Heres the question, should I waste the $20 to send the scope in to get an estimate for repairs? Or am I throwing the money away because by the time I add more money to it, I could get a cheap scope that would last as long. Dan |
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They should replace or repair it free except for your shipping cost?
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RE: What should I do? Scope repair question
By all means send it back! There's no reason to have to live with a defective scope and it will only hurt your confidence to where you won't be able to take most shots past point blank range.
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RE: What should I do? Scope repair question
send it back to the manufacturer in the box it came in,a friend of mine sent back a very old weaver scope that he had for nearly 30 years because the nitrogen had finally leaked out and it started to fog up,they repurged it and it worked for about one more year,he sent it back again and the seals were shot so they sent it back fixed and sent him a new 3x9x40 along with his old one to keep for sentimental value,I dont even know if weaver has a lifetime warranty but they thanked him and wished him good service out of his new one for another 30years.SEND IT BACK!!
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RE: What should I do? Scope repair question
My dad would say - How Dumb are You?
You cannot use a rifle scope on either a Muzzleloader or a Shotgun. A rifle scope is designed for a Rifle ONLY! There is different harmonic's between a rifle and a shotgun and that is what broke your scope. The different type of recoil between the two will break almost any type of rifle scope - even a Leupold. Besides that - you do not need a Bushnell Elite 3200 on a Shotgun! Even with a rifled slug, your effective range is still less than 200 yards. If you would have PAID someone to mount your scope for you - that knew something about guns and scopes, they would have advised you not to do it and would also had advised you to buy a shotgun scope for your muzzleloader or shotgun and not a rifle scope. Play dumb, send it back. Bushnell will replace it. Go out and BUY a shotgun scope and put the rifle scope on a rifle and you will not have anymore problems. |
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I do not want to burst any bubbles here but the only differnce between a "rifle" scope, and a "MZ" scope, and a "shotgun" scope is the difference where the parallax is set. If you do not believe that then call Leupold, and they will tell you the same thing. I have talked to Leupold about this on many occasions.
The recoil on a 12 gauge is more intense than it is on a 223 Remington, but it is no more intense than a 458 Wnchester. How rugged a scope is built is directly proportional to the cost of the scope. And how well a scope holds up is directly proportional to the punishment you apply to it. This is why you should always put a click adjustable scope on a heavy recoiling firearm, and you should not use friction adjustment scopes on a heavily recoiling firearm.Tom. |
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Begging your pardon rifleman but I've had leupolds on my muzzleloaders and shotguns for years without the first problem,and they are NOT offically designated shotgun/muzzleloader scopes.
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RE: What should I do? Scope repair question
Ironically however, you could put a $1000 swarovski rifle scope on an air rifle and the pellet gun would tear it up in under 50 shots. Air rifles recoil in the reverse direction of powder propellant rifles, and rifle scopes are not made to withstand that direction of recoil.
Otherwise, the difference is the parralax setting. Rimfire, rifle, and shotgun/MZ. There are some reticle and magnification settings as they are marketed for different buyers, but functionally they should still hold up to the recoil. |
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ORIGINAL: HEAD0001 I do not want to burst any bubbles here but the only differnce between a "rifle" scope, and a "MZ" scope, and a "shotgun" scope is the difference where the parallax is set. If you do not believe that then call Leupold, and they will tell you the same thing. I have talked to Leupold about this on many occasions. The recoil on a 12 gauge is more intense than it is on a 223 Remington, but it is no more intense than a 458 Wnchester. How rugged a scope is built is directly proportional to the cost of the scope. And how well a scope holds up is directly proportional to the punishment you apply to it. This is why you should always put a click adjustable scope on a heavy recoiling firearm, and you should not use friction adjustment scopes on a heavily recoiling firearm.Tom. and rifleman, I hope you were joking, theres no need for you to beD*ck on here. Get your facts straight before you drag someone through the mud or at least have some clue of what you're talking about before you do. I'll bet most people who shoot a modern muzzleloader ,with a scope, have used a "rifle" scope on it (including me) and they have worked fine. I've been using mine for 8years with no problems and it hold zero dead nuts year after year. |
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I have a cheap bushenll on ym Mossberg 835 and i have shot alot of slugs through it. I sat on the range a few times and shot over 60 rounds through it on multiple occasions.
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I had a Simmons 8point on my muzzleloader for 5 years, and I have a Sightron 3-9 on my new muzzleloader, and both work perfectly. Needing a shotgun scope for a shotgun or muzzleloader is BS. The only difference is the parallax. Generally rifle scopes are set at 100-150 yards, rimfire scopes at 50 yards, and shotgun/muzzleloader scopes are set at 60-75.
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Rifleman your dad would ask "How dumb are you?"? You should ask your dadthe same question.
There wasn't a single thing in that post that was factual. I don't knowif your dad actually told youany of that stuffyou stated but whoever you heard it from I would, from now on, take their advice with a grain of salt. And why not have a Bushnell elite on a shotgun? The elite designation is simply a series designation. There is an Elite3200, 4200 and now a 6500 (sweet BTW).They make a whole bunch of scopes in the elite line. Even "shotgun" scopes. Any way, the scope should be sent back to Bushnell. They will either repair or replace it and you will only be out about $10 shipping. It has a lifetime warranty through Bushnell. |
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I agree with you all,if a rifle scope is designed to handle the recoil of some of the heavy magnums used for brown bear and dangerous game,I'm allmost certain that it will handle the recoil of any shotgun,I shot a 338 one time and I still remember it,and I'm sure that some rifles are a lot worse than it was,my 12 guage dont kick that bad with 3.5 inch mag loads.
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It's me again,I just read that guys post again,if I'm correct my muzzle loader is a rifle,and it has a rifle scope on it for the last three years and remains sighted in from one season to another,I guess it would do better if I replaced the rifle scope with a muzzle loader scope it makes me ask my self "how dumb are you'' I realy thought that nikon was working flawlessly each season when I kill a deer or two with it must be "dumb luck" sorry we cant all be as smart as one person!
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Thanks fellows for your info. I will send it in. I thought it had a lifetime warranty, but no where in the booklet I have that came with it does it say anything about a lifetime warranty. (I don't have the box, which may have on its exterior "lifetime warranty" for marketing it). The booklet just tells where to send it. The part aboutadding $10 with shipment of scope and they'll give me a quote on repairis info I got off their web site.
Thanks again Dan |
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ORIGINAL: The Rifleman My dad would say - How Dumb are You? You cannot use a rifle scope on either a Muzzleloader or a Shotgun. A rifle scope is designed for a Rifle ONLY! There is different harmonic's between a rifle and a shotgun and that is what broke your scope. The different type of recoil between the two will break almost any type of rifle scope - even a Leupold. Besides that - you do not need a Bushnell Elite 3200 on a Shotgun! Even with a rifled slug, your effective range is still less than 200 yards. If you would have PAID someone to mount your scope for you - that knew something about guns and scopes, they would have advised you not to do it and would also had advised you to buy a shotgun scope for your muzzleloader or shotgun and not a rifle scope. Play dumb, send it back. Bushnell will replace it. Go out and BUY a shotgun scope and put the rifle scope on a rifle and you will not have anymore problems. :D:DThe things you see on here...lmao!! You couldnt pay money for entertainment like this! :D;) |
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I use an Elite 3200 on a muzzle loader an my slug gun and have had no problems with hundreds of rounds. I would send it in maybe they'll fix it for free or if you have to put a little money in it would be less then buying a new one.
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RE: What should I do? Scope repair question
ORIGINAL: dkbs Thanks in advance for any responses. I have a Bushnell Elite 3200 Rifle Scope w/ Rainguard. For me an expensive scope, about $200 a number of years ago. I put it on an inline muzzleloader, worked great. Moved it to a Rem 870 12 gauge and worked fine for a year or two. Now it seems to not hold its zero and doesn't respond the way it should to adjustment. To rule out the gun and because I wanted another gun, I bought an H&R Ultra Slug gun and put the scope on it. Same problem. We ruled out the shooter by my son shooting it and I his gun and the terrible groups went with the gun with that scope. I know some people say don't put a rifle scope on a shotgun, but does the shotgun kick any harder than one of those big African Magnums. Heres the question, should I waste the $20 to send the scope in to get an estimate for repairs? Or am I throwing the money away because by the time I add more money to it, I could get a cheap scope that would last as long. Dan They said it wasn't repairable so they sent me a new one like the one I sent to them. They was going to charge $60.00 for a new one. So I called them and fussed about having to pay for a scope with a limeted life time warrenty. Then the said OK and they sent it to me no charge. Just cost me insurance and shipping to and from them. What ever you do good luck. PS just don't tell them you put it on anything other than a rifle. They will say it was missused and won't send another one. |
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I'm with the majority,have owned several muzzleloaders but never owned a ML/Shotgun scope -all have worn rifle scopes!
I also agree send it back to Bushnell with a simple but descriptive written note"scope doesn't hold POI or track adjustments, any longer"! If they try to upcharge you for anything other then shipping then as jrbsr mentions do not comply! That is BS it states Lifetime and unless they can prove its been abused they have no reason to eek any more cash out of the consumer. |
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I buy used Leupolds all the time without hesitations. The last deal I got was a really old 3x9x42 Leupold Vari-X II, for $160 which included shipping. This scope’s power adjustment ring was supper tight to turn. I didn’t hesitate to send it in for repair. After about 2 months, I received a brand new $300 VXII 3x9x40 glass scope. They were unable to repair my scope, so they replaced it free of charge.
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RE: What should I do? Scope repair question
ORIGINAL: The Rifleman My dad would say - How Dumb are You? You cannot use a rifle scope on either a Muzzleloader or a Shotgun. A rifle scope is designed for a Rifle ONLY! There is different harmonic's between a rifle and a shotgun and that is what broke your scope. The different type of recoil between the two will break almost any type of rifle scope - even a Leupold. Besides that - you do not need a Bushnell Elite 3200 on a Shotgun! Even with a rifled slug, your effective range is still less than 200 yards. If you would have PAID someone to mount your scope for you - that knew something about guns and scopes, they would have advised you not to do it and would also had advised you to buy a shotgun scope for your muzzleloader or shotgun and not a rifle scope. Play dumb, send it back. Bushnell will replace it. Go out and BUY a shotgun scope and put the rifle scope on a rifle and you will not have anymore problems. |
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Send it back mate, you should have no dramas.
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If Bushnell is any kind of company they should repair or replace it for free. You'll have to pay the shipping to them.
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Bushnell will repair the scope for free. They will charge you the "shipping and handling fee" however. I sent one back about a month ago that I'd broke on a spring airgun. The Elites are warrantied for spring gun use as well. They couldn't fix the scope, so they sent me a brand new one!
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RE: What should I do? Scope repair question
Hello again
I did send it back with a note saying basically what I'd posted in my first post. I got a card saying they got it and its being held for inspection. I will post the results when I hear from them. Thanks everybody for your input. Thanks again Dan |
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I bought a used gun with a Bushnell Eite scope on it and it says that the Bushnell Elite 3200 has a limited warranty, good for the original owner only, and for a limited time! Are their scopes only warranted for a limited time?
If so, I won't be considering Bushnells in the future of my scope upgrades! |
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They may have changed the warranty, but all the Elites I've purchased came with a card stating "lifetime warranty".
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May I change directions slightly? Has anyone sent in a 60's Balvar scope to Bushnell recently? Mine has the "dusting" problem.
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RE: What should I do? Scope repair question
ORIGINAL: The Rifleman My dad would say - How Dumb are You? You cannot use a rifle scope on either a Muzzleloader or a Shotgun. A rifle scope is designed for a Rifle ONLY! There is different harmonic's between a rifle and a shotgun and that is what broke your scope. The different type of recoil between the two will break almost any type of rifle scope - even a Leupold. Besides that - you do not need a Bushnell Elite 3200 on a Shotgun! Even with a rifled slug, your effective range is still less than 200 yards. If you would have PAID someone to mount your scope for you - that knew something about guns and scopes, they would have advised you not to do it and would also had advised you to buy a shotgun scope for your muzzleloader or shotgun and not a rifle scope. Play dumb, send it back. Bushnell will replace it. Go out and BUY a shotgun scope and put the rifle scope on a rifle and you will not have anymore problems. |
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Rifleman is telling us that a scope that will stand up the the recoil of a .378 Weatherby magnum will come apart when used on a muzzleloader. Quick, someone raise the flag. No, not the surrender flag: The bullsh!t flag!!!!
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