DG and Wholehog,

You are both right on....Brownings may shoot well but I still don't BUY ANYTHING made in Japan(YUCK)!!!

Weatherby makes an awesome gun that shoots very well in my opinion. But dont spit on the m700's,,i have had some real good luck with the Remingtons (out of box 1/2" 5 shot groups). I have a few older (pre 64) m70's that shoot tight groups too. I am lookin at a Wby markV ultralightweight in 270wby mag,,,hope to get it & im sure it will shoot just as good as the other guns in the safe. In my opinion the best groups come from reloading. Just my 2 cents.

shoot well
Mike

First off Weatherbys are made in the USA by one of the largest Military small arm manufacturers out there(SACO)... They are worth the money if you don' t crazy buying all the extras(fancy wood ,engraving etc)... My favorite right now is the stainless steel Fibermark which can be bought for about 100 bucks or so more than a Browning A bolt SS synthetic buy one of these and you will have a gun for a lifetime. I could really get into it with some of these anti-Japanese gun types but I am not going to waste my valuable typing fingers I will just say this Wars been over for 60 years guys and we won and today they are a better ally than the French and Germans.[:@]

Every MKV I have owned has been a quality rifle...great fit and finish and in my opinion the smoothest bolt action of any made to date and one of the quietest smoothest safeties you' ll ever handle. They tend to have long throats which supposedly affects accuracy but you couldn' t tell it by the guns I have owned every last one was a good solid shooter.


I have been researching what to buy new and after looking at Remingtons,Winchesters,Savages and Rugers they are either cursed with a cheap synthetic stock or a worthless hunk of wood called a stock and their actions are sloppy and cheap bottom metal and not a one of them leaves me with a feeling of quality.

I have owned two weatherby mark 5' s and was disappointed with both of them.Neither was any more accurate than my factory 700' s and some of the 700' s were quite a bit more accurate.The accuracy guarantee of 1-1/2" groups is ridiculous as I have never owned a gun that would would not shoot at least that well and many cost much less than the weatherbies.I now have guns built for me that cost a little more than a weatherby but they shoot honest 1/2" groups and they are much better made.I don' t mind spending money on my rifles but they have to deliver more to be worth the extra cost.To me the weatherby' s didn' t deliver.

I have to agree,I own a Weatherby and the accuracy equals that of a 700 Remington! Why pay more unless you like fancy stocks...

I guess the fact that one has a spring steel ejector...3 piece brazed bolt body vs a one piece bolt assembly that is field strippable...a true extractor and a safer trigger and safety mechanism(that locks in safety mode) great customer service and a more substantial action to boot is of no consequence to a few on this board. They would rather go out and re-engineer a cheap Remington and add a Sako extractor... rebarrel it and then have the nerve to call it a custom rifle.
Remingtons cost an average of 650 bucks in my part of the world that is not to far off from a Base MKV. I have owned just a few MKV' s(5) and only one (lightweight version) ever saw the inside of a gunshop.... BTW the MKV' s in standard calibers shoot extremely well they may in many cases easily surpass the Weatherby calibers accuracy wise even when they have a cheap synthetic stock on them . Accuracy is one piece of the equation but too many people make too much of it..

In 1994, in preparation for my first trip west hunting elk, I bought a mark V weatherby in .300 WBY. A good friend of mine had a sporting goods store at the time and he " bought" a Remington 700 in .300 WBY at the same time. He didnt reload so I brought his remington home with me to work up a load for it while I was doing the same for my weatherby. Over the course of an entire summer I tried just about every load/powder/bullet combination knopwn to man trying to find something that weatherby would shoot. IT WAS HOPELESS. On the other hand, I could take ANY of those same loads and shoot them thru the remington and it would be GREAT. I believe you could have put powder from a firecracker and a rock for a bullet in the remington and it would have shot an inch or less! I NEVER tried a bad load in that gun! The weatherby however, was JUNK. I called weatherby and they told me to send it to their authorized repair center in my area, which I did. I got it back about a month before my trip and started the whole process again. It was no better. Groups averaged over 2 inches. I traded it to my sporting goods friend for a test model of the gun now known as an LSS in .300 win. mag. I still have the Remington and dont see another weatherby ever calling my house home!

Thats an interesting experience TN_Hunter and you are probably in the minority with your experience. I am pretty sure I have owned way more Remingtons than you have/will and I will not waste good money buying one.

oldelkhunter, are you a professional in the firearms industry? Are you by chance a gunsmith? Or perhaps a custom gun builder? Your statement that you " have owned more remingtons than I have/will" seems to be making a broad
A-S-S-UMPTION. Let me now follow by making one, Im pretty sure that I have taken/will take more game animals than you have/will. See my point? There is no way to accurately a.s.ses.s someone else' s experience or abilty. I have had the oportunity to shoot SEVERAL weatherbys, although I have only OWNED one. Of those, only one stands out as a " shooter" . The rest were average at best. These have ran the scale from one of Roy' s first belgium made rifles, to a lasermark in 378 wby mag, all the way down to one of the howa weatherbys that Walmart sells. The best was a early 80' s vintage vanguard in 300 win mag.
While we are making A>S>Sumptions, it has been my observation that most weatherby owners are brand loyal. It seems that they enjoy spending more money than neccessary.
I never said that remingtons were all perfect, far from it in fact, it has been my experience though that as a rule they perform exceptionally well.

I' m not going to get into a pissing contest with you on what you have or have not killed or what you have or have not owned. I think that by owning one weatherby you are hardly an expert on that matter. I am comparing many Remingtons owned and Many Weatherbys vs your owning one.