game4lunch

Anybody use one of these?
Do they really improve groupings?

BTM

I was sure they were a gimmick, but Cabela's has a great refund policy, so I gave them a whirl on my Kimber Montana .308. With its whippy barrel, I was lucky to get 3" at 200 yds. With the Sims atached, groups dropped to 2". It's a keeper in my book!

stubblejumper

I have seen improvement with some rifles,no significant change with some rifles and larger groups with some rifles.

ahankster

Looks like a toilet plunger.
Sorry, if I had to have one to make my rifle shoot better, I think I would rather buy a new rifle than walk around with that thing hanging off it.
Hank

BTM

The critters I killed didn't care what it looked like, and $20 is a lot cheaper than a new rifle.

herman

I was asked to try one of these when they first came out and did but I think because all my rifles at the time were shooters and it didn't help any.I took it back the next day but wished I had kept it untill I shot a rifle that wouldn't shoot to try it.But after talking to the fellow at sims I think it would help if you had a rifle that wouldn't shoot.I just didn't spend enough time on it.
AS BTM said the critters aren't going to care what the rifle looks like and $20 bucks is cheaper than buying a new rifle.

bronko22000

BTM - If I shelled out the money for a Kimber Montana and it only shot 3" groups, I'd be on the phone to Kimber. I don't mean to slam you but you may have a bedding problem or something else. Like you I bought one just for fun to see if it worked. It didn't. At least not the way it was advertised. I just experimented with different loads until I found something my rifle liked. If you don't reload, it may be worth a try. But they just don't look right. And if I didn't reload and had a rifle that didn't shoot up to my self imposed standards I may consider putting a "BOSS" type system on it.

thndrchiken

Don't waste your money.

ahankster

I saw a reveiw on the product on a website about a year ago. They did controlled tests with several rifles and several calibers. Results tended to either be no change. Some guns showed worse accuracy and a very few showed improvements.

Still think it looks like something that should be stuck in my toilet, not something for one of my rifles.

Hank

tmeservey

I had one because a friend didn't want his. I put it on my 270. I saw no difference at 100, 200 or 250 yards. It's really not necessary especially when the thing looks horrible on a nice looking gun.[:'(]