Remington 710 Stock
 

I tried to do a search for stock info, but no luck.
There were, however, tons of words slung at Remington's attempt to destroy their own reputation.....the 710.
My dad decided to join a family coyote hunt at the last minute. He called me from Wally World to tell me of a great deal they had on a Remington .243. I had no idea that he was referring to the 710. While I had no history with the 710, I have heard the negative.
What a piece of junk! I am sorry to all of those who own this rifle and like it, but it really felt like a $99 dollar gun.
My dad will shoot just about anything, and enjoy the experience. But, in 32 years of shooting with him, this is only the 2nd time that he said something negative. This time, before the first shot was fired. The magazine makes a horrible sound while moving around with the gun in a sling over the shoulder. He has emailed Remington...no reply yet. Hopefully a new clip will help.
The action was clunky, and every other throw of the bolt caused a hang up. Hopefully the bad mag is the problem and the new mag is the solution.
Well, my dad is thinking of buying a different gun....adl, stevens 200, or Savage. I doubt that he would try to sell the 710, to a friend anyway! And, since my dad is not a rich man, nearing retirement, I will probably give him what he paid for it, and let my sons shoot it......they like em all!
My question is: do any of the other remington stocks fit this gun? I have an adl stock in storage, but would like to find the answers before I offer to help my dad out. Also, would the 700 scope base fit the 710?
I know that you all are tired of this horse, but like I said, I couldn't find the stock question by searching.
Thanks for your time.
Victor

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i believe you cannot exchange the stocks on the 710 since it is all in one piece IMO. I may be wrong though but that's what i've heard. i too had a 710 and recently sold it. i had trouble with the rough action as well. it had nothing to do with the magazine. the gun itself is terrible! period. the only thing impressive of the 710 was its accuracy. it was really good. but to me i would rather shoot 1-1.5" groups than to have a POS that will fall apart IMO.

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Yes, the accuracy wasn't half bad. Then again, the .243 is inherently accurate.
My favorite rifle is a Remington ADL in .308. It is just sad that they, IMO, manufactured the 710.
Anyway, thanks for the response.
Victor

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You cannot do any internal work on these guns because they are pressed into the stock.

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Thanks for pointing that out Criggster. I don't have it in my possesion, so it is hard to look at.
I still think that my boys will be happier than their Grandpa is with it.
I just want to help my dad out since he is the reason I love shooting so much!
It will just have to stay stock then.
Thanks again.
Victor

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I have one and by the looks of it, you can change the stock. The barrel and reciever are one piece but the stock can be removed. I wasn't particularly fond of it either but I bought it as a starter rifle. Now I wish I would've done more research on the Savages but it is what it is now so I will keep it as a back up to my new Ruger M77 and let my dad or one of my good friends use it to go hunting with. I guess you would have to call Remington to find out or take it to a gun smith who doesn't have a negative attitude about it.

So far my opinion of why it gets a bad wrap is the barrel is irreplacable and the rough bolt that seems to jam when it gets hot (I think the Savage bolts do this too). Some people also complain about the plastic trigger guard but then again, the Tikkas T3 Light has this too. The accuracy and the durability on mine doesn't seem to be too bad. I average 1 1/2 groups at the hundred, taken a buck at 170 yards with a clean head shot to sever the spine, and nothings fallen apart on mine like some others have claimed on theirs or they have claimed to have witnessed on others.

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Whew!
That's the first good news that I have heard. I will be picking it up today.
I did talk to my dad last night about finding him another rifle, and it was worth every penny to hear him go from disappointment to excitement over another chance to get a better rifle!!
We both own M77's and love them as well, but he will probably still go with the Stevens or Savage for this one. He does not hunt coyotes too often due to the march in, but it keeps him young when he does join.
Thanks again.
Victor

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Where in the world did you hear that? The barrel is pressed in the action. But not pressed in the stock.

I don't know for sure but I think the mag inlet area is fairly different on the 710 over the 700.

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Oh, No!! Another HEAD SHOT!! What is this world coming to??

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Well, it appears to be a fit problem. And, the only way to fix it is to send it in to Remington. It seems as though it is the stock and not the magazine.
The Gunsmith at our local Gander Mnt will send it in for me for delivery charges only....$12.
He had never seen this particular problem, but felt that Remington has good, albiet sometimes slow, customer service.
It's a good start.

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Honestly even though it was a quick clean kill that made its legs give out beneath him and that was all she wrote, I am still not proud of it. Just an inexperienced hunter at the time who got a little excited and thought he had to prove something at the time. No more head shots for this guy and I won't advocate them.

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:eek:I know a few hunters who started off with the ole head or neck shot. I too have taken 2, 1 each. Experience and humility cures that.
Nothing to be down beaten for, maybe talked out of...:)

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If you needed a stock replacement it would have to be done by Remington. If you take the action out of the stock you will see what I mean. The recoil lug is integral to the stock and fits into a slot in the bottom of the receiver. I don't think you could get another gunsmith to touch it. I've never seen or even heard of aftermarket stocks for the 710. Talking to the Rep that comes by our local firearms dealer he stated the 710 was really built for the guy that goes deer hunting only a few days each year. Such as, somebody that hunts 2-4 days and puts the gun back up for the rest of the year.

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It is enroute to Remington right now.
The gunsmith, who was kind enough to send it out for us, was also kind enough not to insult the gun in front of my dad. My dad had already realized, a little late, its short comings. He would like to shoot it regularly.
I would be a little skeered to take the stock off after reading what you just wrote.
Thanks.
Victor

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Can't do anything with the junk trigger in them either.

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A sad gun for sure.
We are waiting to hear back from Remington, but I suspect that we won't actually "hear" anything. They will probably just send it with a new stock, and hope that we are satisfied.

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My dad has a 710 in 30-06, its a tack driver. $320 with scope already mounted. The only thing he had done was put a new recoil pad on it.

As for you calling it a piece of junk, you have your opinion and everyone else has theirs. My dads 06 was a little hard to close the bolt until it broke it and now theres no problem. This model is a cheaper model, if you dont like it, take it back to walmart and get a refund and spend a few $$$ more on something you like. You have complained about everything else on the rifle except its accuracy, Hows it shoot?

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It doesn't really shoot too bad, as far as accuracy. It just rattles like a babies rattle when slung over the shoulder. Not very good when on the stalk.
Not too many places will take a gun or ammo back. Most will send it to the manufacturer for you. Wal-Mart does neither. It was very kind of the gunsmith at Gander to send it back for my dad.
Now my dad......he feels that it is going to be a good gun if Remington takes care of the rattle.
Then I won't have to buy it from him. Because, it is my opinion that the gun is junk....maybe just this one, but by postings, many others feel the same. I have many, many guns to compare it to. The other Remingtons being some of my favorites.
I did not post to bash the gun, I was just looking for advice on how to salvage a situation.
Victor

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Don't be upset about my "head shot" comment.It was all said with a kind of "tongue-in-cheek" meaning, due to a previous topic in the recent past that generated a good bit of emotion among some of us. I meant no ill will at all...............

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No worries, I remember the post you were referring to I think. I just wanted to point out that's something I personally won't do again. No ill feelings, just a forum :)

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WHY?!

I have this piece of junk car. The suspension is shot, the motor is on it's last cylinders, uses oil, burns oil, blows oil, the trans only has first gear, the radiator leaks, there's no heat or A/C, all the windows are broken out, it has mice living in it and even they are moving out.

But I want to put some new custom wheels and tires on it.

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Ha ha. It's not top-o-the-line but I will keep mine as a loaner to anyone who doesn't own a hunting rifle and wants to come hunt with me. Anyone that doesn't have too much experience and is not expecting too much luxury will be more then thrilled with it.

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Absolutely.
That is why I mentioned earlier that my boys would love it.
They are too young to have developed opinions. They'll think it's the bee's knees!

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I have a 710, in a 7mm, it was my first gun i ever bought, and so far it has done its job, killin moose. i didnt buy it to look pretty, i bought it to put food on the table every september. and it does its job.

but...

the bolt is hard to lock in, but i never have a problem with a moose downrange

personally looking back, i do not regret buying the gun as much as i regret not researching others, i was brought up in a family with remington 700 7mms and i joined the group with a next generation cheapo-spawn, now though, im looking at a BLR in a 7mm, or a .308

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AKhunterTeen,
Well put.
Do you own a .308?
I love mine(Rem ADL).

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nah, but i like the cartridge, id get a .308, but id like to be able to swap cartridges between rifles

i have: remington 710 7mm
ruger 10-22
Remington 870 wingmaster 20ga
colt .357

and i had a ruger mini-14, but sold it after i shot my bear with it,
definitely looking intently at the BLR, and maybe a mosin nagant 91/30

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I've read some of your questions regarding the 710 and have answers for you. I've owned a Rem710 in .270 for over 3 years and have done some modifications to it. I will try to post pictures of it later but I may have some answers for you.

710 Stock: The 710 stock is exclusive to the 710, though you can replace it, the only ones who supplies stock for the 710 is Remington. No other aftermarket stocks are available for 710. I've tried looking for them through other manufacturers, but I think they just want to bother with it.
And no, the hardware is not pressed to the stock. The barrel/reciever assembly can be removed to do internal work if needed.

Cocking Trouble: The older style 710's have a HDPE (High Density Polyethylene) oil impregnated reciever that should make the bolt slide eisier. However I found this to be incorrect. The "Plastic" tends to bind a little but with a little extra gun oil and some use, it tends to slide a lot better. I did notice that sometimes as I work the bolt, the reciever tends to flex when Ipushedthe bolt handle upwards and back simultaneously. The newer 710 have a metal reciever and it seems to work a lot smoother.

Modifications: Like any other rifle, the 710 can have modifications done to it. You just can't change the barrel off the reciever. Some will argue that this is a draw back, but considering that typical barrel life for most rifles is approximately 5,000 rounds, if taken care of properly, it should last you for quite some time. i.e. if you shoot 15 rounds daily, 5 boxes weekly, 21 boxes monthly or 63 boxes every three months, then yes, definately consider a rifle that has a removable barrel. But also consider this, anyone who shoots this much is wasting about $5,480.00 a year. Yikes!!!

I'll try to post more items later including some pictures of my modified rifle just for the fun of it. I'm sure many of you hard core gun enthusiests might think me a joke and mock me, but I'm not trying to prove anything. All I'll do is answer some of the technical questions that have been posted and that you may have in the future.

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The 710 trigger mechanism is very similar to that of the 700, and yes, you can do some work to make it better.
I personally adjusted the trigger to break at 3 lbs and removed all creep and overtravel.

I removed the original 3x9 Burris and replaced it with a Tasco 6x24 Varminter for more precise viewing. Worked out great until I took a spill and my rifle went flying out in front of me slamming unto some dead trees. The stocks forearm took the brunt of the hit with it spinning a couple of times before the scopes eyebell took a hit and that was it.
The stock had no visible damage other than a small scratch under the swivel stud where it had taken the hit.
After some time of searching, reviewing and reading technical stuff, I settled for the Barska 6x24 Swat Tactical scope and am very happy with it. Hasn't lost its center once.

I did do a couple of barrel modifications that I think is important to mention.
The breach side is not entirely deburred and has a sharp edge that tended to shave a bit off the bullet as it entered and sometimes had the case wedge at the neck asI pushed the bolt forward. I useda Dremmel Tool extension and some grinding stones to remove the sharp edge and polished the edge where the ammo made contact. Someone had noted that any modifications like this might tend to make the shell casing deform because of the pressures caused by firing, however, because the the sharp edge is prior to the locking lugs and the bolt locks into the barrel, this area never sees any pressure and therefore is safe to fire without any safety concerns.
The second modification was at the muzzle end, I installed a muzzle break to ease the pain off my shoulder due to the fact I usually burn four or more boxes of ammo when I go target shooting and also to keep the Tasco Varminter from slamming into my face due to the short eye reliefe it had prior to replacing it.

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Well juliohoo,
I personally appreciate the input.
My dad's gun was sent to Remington and returned "repaired," but my father called me yesterday to tell me that it seemed the same to him.
I restated my offer of buying it from him, so that he may buy something that he'd rather have.....his choice.
He wants to go out and shoot it again, and if he is still unhappy, he would like to find a different gun.
Again, this particular 710 has a magazine that rattles while in place, empty or full. I think that if I buy it from him, cuz I love my dad, then I may look for someone in my area who owns one in .243 or .308, and try a different magazine. If that solves this particular problem, then i will go ahead and buy a new magazine. No thanks to Remington.
Feeding problems, which it has, will be addressed once I can have some private time with the rifle.
I am staying open-minded, as it is apperent that while this gun is hated by plenty, it has been loved...by plenty (who've actually owned one).
I am still very interested in more of your (and other's) input and pictures, since I will need more as I go.
Fingers crossed!!
Victor

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i got the 270710 2 years ago mag rattles like u said bolt hangs up all the time what a peice but my first gun so ill just have to save up for something better

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Here is my Remington 710 in .270 Winchester. Quite a few modifications and a more powerful scope for longer rangeshooting if needed. Cottontails at 300(+) yards? No problem...

I've tried several types of ammunition from "El Cheepo" to "The Good Stuff" ($42 Box) and I've found out my "Cheap" rifle likes cheap ammo.

So far the best groups I've gotten at 100 yards is from Federals Fusion 130 grain. Most shots are within an inch of each other. 3 out of 4 shots usualy touching each other and staying within a 1/2" circle.

Not bad for a cheap gun. Why all the modifications you ask? I guess for the same reasons people who buy an $800 dollar rifle and modify it, do. Except I didn't spend another $800 modifying it. In fact, if my count is correct, I'm still way under $700.

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I don't mean to offend, but why put all that on such a POS like the 710?

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My thoughts exactly.

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No offense taken. Life’s too short to take things too personal. [8D]

However, I find that most people who are prejudice regarding one thing or another have not taken the time to review and see the benefits of said item.

Some other rifle makers have jumped on the band wagon, as you might say, and have taken advantage of the market that the 710 has created or had actually always been there.

Mossberg for instance has created two styles of rifles that compete with the 710 and so far I have not seen anyone bad mouth them. And this is a company that up to a few years ago did not make bolt action rifles, only shotguns.

But back to your question regarding why all the modifications… Mainly the reason for the modifications is due to my own personal preferences, physical limitations and shooting habits.

I’ll try to be as brief as possible without boring you if you want more details I’ll address them as the questions come up.

Rifle Scope: 3x9 scope is O.K. for my 10/22 but wanted something with more zoom power for this rifle, had a Tasco 6x24 target on it till I took a spill and broke it. Changed it to a Barska 6x24 Swat Tactical and liked it. Some problems with the first one and had the company exchange it. No problems with the second one.

Muzzle Break: Rifle recoil made Tasco scope hit my protective eye wear and after three to four boxes of ammo, my shoulder didn’t feel too good either. Muzzle break reduced felt recoil, kept scope from slamming into my face and reduced my flinching. Because I work in a machine shop environment, my cost was minimal due to the fact I designed the break myself , one of the guys in the shop was more than happy to make the part for me out of spare material and I pressed fitted the break myself.

Bolt Knob: Some oxidation and wear was showing on the original bolt knob. Rifle magazines regarding tactical rifles show various types of bolt knobs. Had one of my shop guys modify the original bolt knob to a 3/8-16 thread and I purchased a knob from McMaster Carr that only cost me $1.50. Badger Ordinance can put an aluminum one for you if you wish for the low cost of $95.

Bi Pod: To raise the rifle while I’m on the range. Didn’t buy Harris Bipod, too expensive, another manufacturer made identical bipod for $30 less.

Rifle Stock: Free floated the barrel (because of the hollow cells in the forearm, found that it flexed, added Devcon plastic filler, $20, now forearm is stiff and is not affected by the elements), added second swivel post slightly behind bipod for sling (didn’t like sling connected to bipod), painted stock to O.D. Green just for looks (I liked the original gray color, but after seeing all those tactical rifles in O.D. decided to change it), I had a Limsaver recoil pad on it but after a year it looked like it was decaying so I put the original one back on (I will contact the makers of the Limbsaver to see if they will honor they’re lifetime warranty and replace it).

Trigger Pull: Adjusted trigger pull to break at 3 lbs. Adjustments can be made exactly like the Remington 700.

Results, well see for yourself. Here is the target from my last ammo testing. I tested Remington Corelokt, Winchester Power Point and Federal Fusion in 130 grain. Federal Fusion showed best results. (Note: each square measures 1/2 inch and I had a 5 to 10 MPH cross wind).

Top Left Target: Bench Rest – Three first shots within 3/4 inch of each other, adjusted aiming point to shoot one inch low and left. Shot is dead center.

Top Right Target: Bench Rest – Three first shots touch each other with one flyer.

Bottom Left Target: Prone Position – First, second and forth shot touched each other, third shot was low and to the left, shot one more round landed right of the group.

Bottom Right Target: Prone Position – Separated shots - longest distance 1-1/2 inch, shortest 1/2 inch.