RE: Lightfield Slugs
 

I quit using Lightfiels about five years ago,I got a lot of fliers because the sabot didn't seperate properly from the slug and some of the rounds were hard to eject from my Mossberg 835 rifled barrel.I now use Federal Barnes expanders in my Remington 870 rifled barrel,with great results,but I am getting as good or better results shooting Brenneke KO,s in my cantilever smooth bore with a short rifled tube and they are a lot cheeper.$2.49 a box.

Redneck Bill

RE: Lightfield Slugs
 

I shoot a 12g rem 870 WM with a 24" hastings paradox cantilever rifled barrel (1:34 twist)w/a aimpoint red dot sight up top. From my experience i shot about $160 worth of ammo from a bench rest to find the tightest groups,I tested; 2-3/4Rem core lokt ultras, 2-3/4lightfield ids, 3 lightfield exp, 3 win partition gold, 2-3/4win platinum tip, 3 brennekes, 2-3/4hornady sst's, 3 federal barns expanders, 3 and rem buckhammers, 3 rem copper solids

The tightest groups produced @ 50yds was from the buckhammers, i could lay 5 slugs on a silver dollar, the copper solids were the second tightest, tied withthe brennekes. EVERYTHING else was crap, shooting 6" groups on up @ 50yds,, i think its due to the higher velocites an my barrels 1;34" twist rate, the SST's were the worst, as they had fliers everywhere, let it be know that ifyou are going to shoot the new ultra high velocityslugs, your rifled barrel best have a 1:28" twist rate or you wont stablize thebullet. buck hammers are a great slug that can reach past 100yds. its zero is at 100 yards and theycarry LOTS of energy. just my 2 cents

RE: Lightfield Slugs
 

ReDoT
Nice field test info.I have to agree with you on twist rates.I tried Buckhammers in my Marlin 512 Bolt action slug gun witha a 1:28 twist and They were everywhere on the target with extra holes.The sabot was seperating from the slug before impact.I contacted Remington and they informed me that they tested with a 1:35 twist rate.
I'm surprised you had a problem with the Federal Barnes Expanders.The ballistics for them is exactly the same as Copper Solids and I shoot them exclusively in my rifled barrel guns.I consider the Barnes bullet slightly superior to the Remington.But They are too damn expensive to practice with,that why I usually shoot Brenneke KO's in a smoothbore.The longest shot I have ever gotten,hunting in heavy timber,is 75 yards and the cheap stuff shoots as well as the budget buster ammo.I still want to test the Federal Tru-Ball slugs.

Bill

RE: Lightfield Slugs
 

well the federal barns wernt horrible i suppose,i could take deer with them if i had too,they just wernt acceptable too me, they were much better than the SST's they would of took 4th. im sure your marlin with the fast 1:28 twist is spinning those buckhammers too fast, since they shoot an attached sabot, im sure its detaching itself from the slug.

RE: Lightfield Slugs
 

ReDot... my 12 GA Browning BPS with an Ithaca cantilever slug barrel will shoot the Hornady SSTs very well... 2-2.5" group at 100 yards.

I've taken 2 bucks with these slugs.. one at 110 yds and one at 80 yds.. neither slug exited the animal. And both died in less than 20yds. So far I've been very impressed.

I tried the 3" lightfields out of my gun.. but they wouldn't eject out of the barrel after being fired. It may have something to do with the Ithaca barrel though.. not for sure. This year I picked up a Browning barrel and will be doing some comparisons.

RE: Lightfield Slugs
 

Well if i remember correctly both the Ithaca and browning barrels use a 1:28 twist. I dont know if they both have the same amount of lands and grooves, but that doesnt really matter. Anywaysyour results will more than likely be the same from your browning barrel as the ithaca. If so i would keep that nice factory Browning barrel and sell your ithaca

RE: Lightfield Slugs
 

Oh, as i dont use the hornady SST's in my slug gun, i have used the SST bullets in my T/C Encore muzzleloader (same bullet) sitting infront of 100gr. triple seven. Ballistically, they are a great bullet, relativly fast and flat shooting. Great at extended ranges, but in my experiance they just punch holes @ close range and dont expand much. but a well placed shot still brings them down

RE: Lightfield Slugs
 

i used a lightfield slug this year and it dropped my buck on the spot. It destroyed both lungs and the impact broke the spine. theslug never passed through.
having a shot not pass through is not necessarily a bad thing though. F=MA. if the bullet slows down enough on impact to not pass through, that means more force was applied because it had more deceleration. If a bullet passes through, it does not apply its full potential force.

RE: Lightfield Slugs
 

your absolutley right, however its all relavant. its much harder for a slug traveling at 2000fps. to deliver all of its kineticenergy, [ie. by notpassing thru the target and/or shedding mass (bullet weight retention)], than saya standard velocityslug traveling at 1500fps of equal mass. Also, bullet mass and downrangevelocity ultimatly the deciding factorenergy upon impact. you can also get into bullet design, how the bullet expandsat any given velocity.

RE: Lightfield Slugs
 

I have a mossberg 695 with a leupold vx-II 1-4x20 and I don't have a clue about the wether my SG is a 1/24, 1/28 or whatever...What I do know is that this gun loves Lightfield slugs. I use 2 3/4" slugs and have shot at three deer and have had three 1 shot 1 kills.

Doe #1--2005. 55 yards shot on the right shoulder...quartering towards me slightly. Hit her hard and spun her upside down...she bounced about 15 feet away from my inital hit. Complete pass thru...but didn't need it.

Doe #2--2006. 10-15 yards on top of the shoulder. Hit the doe and she litterally hit the ground with all four legs pointing in different directions. From there she did a back flip somehow climbed back to her feet and fell 20 yards away. Round hit the top of the left shoulder and did not pass thru...again a passthru was not needed.

Button Buck (deer #3)--2006. This buck was traveling with the doe and ran about 70 yards away. Came back to 60 yards and was looking at the doe. Had a quartering away towards shot and took it. Hit about the 2nd rib back and out the right rear quarter...just before the ham. BB went 30-35 yards from impact and died in my sight. Passthru, but again not needed. Didn't even look at the blood trail as I could see the deer from the ground when I got out of the tree.

All total time for Deer #2, and 3 was 1-2 minutes. With this round I haven't had the need for passthru's, blood trails etc. Also, my grouping with these rounds, and my 695 mossberg is about 2" at 100 yards. At 50 I'll get a big hole. I think the mossberg 695 and the lightfield round were literally made for each other.

Paul