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Old 12-01-2006, 06:09 PM
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Just because someone is ranked and shoots in a competion sponsered by Hornady does not make him an expert on how a bullet will perform on an animal there is a big difference. read the posts half the powder of the swift. and whats the point drops half what the 223 does at 400. just a little faster. thats like saying a corvette is just a little faster than the chevette.
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:11 PM
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Some reviewer on some gun website. There is a review that carries alot of weight. Remember these people are paid to write not shoot.
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Old 12-01-2006, 07:33 PM
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I never said he knew anything about how it will perform on animals!! Read carefully before you makecrap up!! I said he knew about the new powder that they are using, so they won't burn up barrels really fast. But whatever I'm done with this discussion.
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Old 12-02-2006, 08:20 AM
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Okay but YOU said that a 32 grain bullet is not much for coyotes. Sorry butit is energy and good bullet construction that kills, and the 32 grain bullet has more energy at muzzle and 100 yards than the 50 grain223 also by the time you hit 300 yards the the 204 is only about 20 ft lbs less, and at 400 yds only25 ft lbs less energyand the 32 gr has only dropped 13 inches while the 223 has dropped 21. So do your homework before making up crap. It is people like you that don't have a clue and just keep repeating crap that they here from others that does a disservice to all.
And again there is no magic powder that will not burn up barrels as fast, it is the powder charge that will improve barrel life.
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Old 12-02-2006, 05:32 PM
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Okay but YOU said that a 32 grain bullet is not much for coyotes. Sorry butit is energy and good bullet construction that kills, and the 32 grain bullet has more energy at muzzle and 100 yards than the 50 grain223 also by the time you hit 300 yards the the 204 is only about 20 ft lbs less, and at 400 yds only25 ft lbs less energyand the 32 gr has only dropped 13 inches while the 223 has dropped 21. So do your homework before making up crap. It is people like you that don't have a clue and just keep repeating crap that they here from others that does a disservice to all.
And again there is no magic powder that will not burn up barrels as fast, it is the powder charge that will improve barrel life.
What wears out barrels is friction. The higher surface area that contacts the barrel and the faster the bullet goes is what wears the barrel out.

The alledged problem with the .220 is throat erosion I thought, which I don't think is the same thing as "barrel" erosion but I don't know.
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Old 12-02-2006, 07:13 PM
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Well, generally its not barrels that wear out but the throat area. And thats due to powder. Sure the bullet size has an affect, but the more powder you dump, the faster it wears out. You can take a 7mmRemMag, and a STW, and you can load up so both shoot a 140gr bullet 3000fps, and it will take more powder in the STW to do it, and I guarantee you the STW wears out first.
 
Old 12-03-2006, 07:23 AM
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BC I agree with you and totally understand that about the throat.Here is what I am trying to say in order to get a 22-250 to the same vel. as a swift you have to load it balls to the wall at or near max chamber pressure. This is more true on lighter bullet weights. I have had a 22-250 and I think it is a great round, I just like the swift better , I like the case capacity and its accuracy from my ruger. I just dont think when you look at all the facts it is a fair comparison to just say it is a barrel burner ( throat erosion) More so then the 22-250, .223wssm, ect when all is on the same playing field. I dont care what federal says or hornaday, winchester, or remington I have loaded for both and it is easier to get 4000fps from a swift then it is a 22-250. Not that it is a bench mark but it is a place to start from .
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Old 12-03-2006, 11:29 AM
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Dan, if I had it to do over, I would have got the 22-250. My 204 is flatter than the 22-250's I have shot against, and is an awesome chuck gun. But ever groundhog I have shot, the bullet explodes and does not penetrate even on neck shots. I just have very low confidense on yotes. And I cannot get the 40gr bullets to shoot well. Its night and day difference. 32gr, I get .7MOAout to 300 yards. 40gr, I am lucky to get 2MOA at 100 yards.
 
Old 12-03-2006, 05:55 PM
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That is the same for my brother in laws .204. It just isnt IMO want it is cracked up to be. I think it is a great round for chucks or equal but anything above that, I am the same just dont feel confident in it. Hey we all have our opinions and experinces ,that is why they make more then one round!!! I am the same guy that deer hunts with a .300 wm. I just feel that I can take a deer at 300 yards or less with confidence.I have shot them with everything from .223 to a 45/70 and I justlike my .300wm.So with my .22 mag , .220 swift.243, 6.5x284, .270wsm, .300wm, and my 45/70 I feel I have all my bases covered. I still have an itch for a 7mm STW.
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