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I'm with Skeeter. I ordered a Savage last year and will never load black powder again!

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Think I have one of my savages ready to hunt this year.

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My omeaga likes the 240gr hornady xtp's and 150 gr pyrodex 777 pellets. Devastating on deer and very accurate.

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Barnes 245gr 150gr Pyrodex pellets. Get pass-through and accuracy.

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Another Savage shooter here. Most likely I will be shooting 45 grians of 5744, a 250gr XTP, MMP HPH-12 sabots, and Win. 209 primer.

Skeeter, give 42-43.5 grains of VV N-110 a try with thoase 250gr SSTs. I think you'll like the results.

Like Duffy says:

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I think the whole point of hunting blackpowder is hunting with BLACKPOWDER! I myself, will not sell out. The smoke stick would not be the same without the smoke.

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Anthony, you do know that Pyrodex or 777 is not Blackpowder but rather a BP subs? Not starting anything, point is the sport has evolved a lot since the original front stuffer's. It boils down to personal choice and what is legal in your area. Basically to each their own, lets stick together vs division.

1 shot 1 kill, thanks. I have been shooting N110 - 43gr is the sweet spot under the 250gr SST in my rifle. Though 43.5gr of 4759 shoots slightly better. I am waiting for the mercury to drop and test closer to hunting temp before Ichoosewhich one will be in for Oct 1!

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I am aware that it has evolved, but it should only go so far. 777 still smokes and even though no one uses "real blackpowder" anymore, I hate to see it go further than pyro. It still smokes..:D

You're right though, to each his own. No argument intended or anything. I just stilllike to try to duck around the cloud to see if I hit my deer.;)

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real BP is hard ta get here
but im gonna get some eventualy (i just gotta try it!)

early

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To each their own. If you wish to hunt BP or substitute and not smokeless then by all means. I enjoy using smokeless in my Savage for the ease of cleaning and performance. I think that we all wish to find the same satisfaction from shooting and hunting, regardless of means.