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IM INTERRESTED IN BUYING A NEW BAR RIFLE. I CAN NOT DECIDEON WHICH CALIBAR TO BUY 308 3006 OR 270. I WAS GOING TO GET A 3006BUT I WONDER IS IT WORTH THE EXTRA RECOIL COMPARED TO THE 308. I WILL BE HUNTING WHITE TAIL DEER WITH IT AND 250 YARDS ISABOUT ALL I NEED TO BE SHOOTING. SINCE IT IS AN AUTO WILL THE RECOIL OF THE 3006 BE LESS THAN ABOLT AND NOT MATTER AS MUCH. I HAVE A 3006 BOLT ACTION THAT KICKS PRETTY GOOD. I HAVE READ THAT THERE ISNOT A HAIR OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 308 AND 3006 INTHE REAL HUNTING WORLD. ALSO WHAT ARE YOUR OPINIONS ON THE BAR RIFLE. THIS IS MY IST POST ON ANY BOARD SO BEAR WITH ME ON SPELLING AND SOUNDING IGNORANT

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the .308 will do anything an 06 will do. Anybody who doesn't believe that has not used the .308 enough.

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You don't sound ignorant at all, but pleasedon't use all capital letters. Capital letters signifies that you are shouting.

If deer hunting is all you'll be doing thenI thinkthe wayto go isthe .270. Less recoil, but plenty of power to kill deer out to 250 yards and beyond. Of course there's not a nickle's worth of difference between any of them really.

I've never owned a BAR, though I know some who have. It's a fine rifle as far as I know and would probably be my choice if I were to buy a semi-auto, but personally, I prefer bolt actions for their simplicity and ease of maintenance.

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sorry about the capital letters i did not know i have had two people tell me that they have had a problem with deer shot with a 270 not leaving a blood trail to follow one of them said that he started using a round nose bullet instead of a pointed bullet andthat he did not have the problem anymore but of course if you drop them in thier tracks you dont have the problem anyway anybody else heard of this

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No blood trail is notthe fault of the .270. The bulletwas more likely at fault although another possibility is that the deer was simply not hit in a place that would cause it to bleed enough (externally at least)to leave a good blood trail. I've knocked the crap out of deer with my .300 Weatherby and didn't get blood trails, so it's not the cartridge that's the problem.

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I had a BAR in 30-06 and loved it. Very mild round when it is in a semi. I would say recoil felt like a bolt action in 243. And, in all honesty, any of those three will more than adequitly fill your needs. And I agree with Solitary Man, the problem was in the bullet, or where it was hit. If it was me, personally, I would opt for the 308. That is one round that has always had a soft spot in my heart. Good luck, and welcome to the board.

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I would get the 30.06; way more ammo selections. I would also go for the collector 30.06 bar rifle that browning produced this year to celebrate 100 years of the 30.06. BTW, welcome to the forum!!!HCH

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Get the .30-06. You will have a greater range of loads available. Also remember Browning and the manufacturers of "High Energy" loads do not recommend them for use in semi-automatic rifles. The Speer reloading manual suggests not exceeeding STARTING loads for use in semi automatics. I think you give up some flexibility with the .308 in a semi, and going up to the '-06 gives you that flexibility back.

I'm not a fan of the semis, but that collector BAR sure is pretty HCH!

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I have taken elk with .270/150gr NPand many deer with 6.5mm Swede 140gr.

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i have five bar's, two o6 and two 270 and a 243. i like all of them, the new one is the stalker in 270 cal. i use the power point 130 gr in the 270 and love it, when i go to my spot that has hogs i take one of the o6 with a 150 gr power point. i use the 100 gr power point in the 243 and have killed a bunch of critters with all of them .one thing about the bar's is you have to keep them clean or face a jam up. once you learn how to take them down and clean the gas piston and bolt they are as easy to clean as any auto firearm. if you have to have a gunsmith clean it you will spend $40.00. but i will do it for $20.00. i live in toccopola ms.

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The 270 hands down for a 250 yard shot it would be hard to beat.

I still have my first deer gun. It is a Savage mod. 110, 270. It loves the hell out of the Horn. 130 light mags. I've got a old Redfield Golden 5 Star on it and I really dont think it will ever miss a Deer. I might be a little Pred.
but I still dont think it will.

hunter338

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Hard to beat the Browning A-Bolt in 30-06. I have had mine for the last couple of years and it is a fine killin stick. Recoil isn't bad with a 150g bullet. Many ammo choices at better prices. Good luck with the purchase.
G

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If you have a 30-06 in a bolt don't buy another even thougt it is a great caliber.Go with a .270,with them two guns you can shoot just about anything you can think of but some of the big african game.The recoil of a semi auto is more than a bold if you ask me.

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I am thouroughly impressed.....A post with a good rifle posted for once ;)

Hehehe

Seriously, I was like OH MY GOD, took me by surprise!

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Well ,he gave me three caliber choices and he wanted a Bar.The 30.06 is a great, versatileround and if you are buying one why not the collector gun. I am a bolt action man myself except for my two Ar's. HCH

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I have hunted with BAR's for over 20 years, my father has used them longer than that. He currently has a 308 and I have a 30-06. Both of them work great for deer, but as has been said previously there is a much greater selection of 06 ammo around, and often you can pick it up for less money.

However, if you ever get a chance to go moose hunting, I like the 30-06 better. Bigger lead, a little more impact, I think its just a better caliber for moose. I have taken 2 with 30-06 bars, and my father has taken one, he used mine for his moose.

The only bad thing about the BAR's is they, and all other semis, are illegal in lots of other countries.

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I own a Bar 30-06 and love it. Great all around caliber and the recoil isn't all that bad either

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what over the counter loads would you guys recommend for deer out to 300 yards using the 3006 or 270 in situations that you need to put the deer down where it stands or have a good blood trail to follow . for instance a road with pine plantations on both sides that's growed up real thick. i know bullet placement is the answer butwhataboutshots that are not on the mark.what bullet wgtand kind and manufacture would you recommend.

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#1 I like 308, Over 250 yards shot buy something other than BAR.

#2 Bar has an odd balance to me, shoot and carry one before you buy.

#3 Do not but the ultralight, have seen only a few but one of them I was working on due to wear in the receiver, might be one in a million, but the alloy bothered me.

#4 if you buy one, buy steel bases for scopenot aluminum, and usethread locker.Do not overtighten Base screws I have personally stipped out receiver, and have fixed a couple.

#5 MY BIG PROBLEM WITH BAR, the front lug, that holds the forearm and is the sling swivel, will affect accuracy. Any time this is moved, tightened, loosened, like when cleaned or if the sling carry causes it to loosen, I am suspect of sighting.

#6 I will say that if you need an automatic it fires very reliably and in mechanically sound(not the ultra-lights though). I also have seen great accuracy out of these guns, and know they shoot well if everything is perfect.