New Remington 710 rifle
10-26-2006 | 02:29 PM
#62
Fork Horn
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From: Arlington, TN
RE: New Remington 710 rifle
The "flyers" to which you refer are two other brands/weights of ammo shot at the two targets at the top.
I didn't say a gun shouldn't be like an extension of the shooter. I said it's not an extension of my ego. I never made any claims to be a crack shot. My whopping grand total of deer in my short hunting life (this will be season #6) is 5, yes 5. All of them shot at under 50 yards, so I don't see the return-on-investment of shooting several hundred rounds to do what? Practice trick shots of shooting between tree limbs @ 35 yards? I do believe I also stated in a previous post that I was limited in the amount of time I get to spend hunting each year, and so the 710 - or one in that price range - was a logical choice for me to make. I've got two neighbors who have much nicer rifles than mine - one has a Browning A-bolt and the other has a stainless Remington 700, but they don't hunt as much as I do. What good does that nice rifle do them?
And besides, none of this has anything to do with the "argument". I haven't even taken issue with the idea that the equivalent Savage is a great rifle. I've just asked for someone to explain WHY the 710 is junk and the same-priced Savage is so great. I just jumped in because I have a 710, used it for 3 seasons so far and it's performed fine. I have no reason to say it wouldn't serve someone else that doesn't need a high-dollar rifle just as well.
I didn't say a gun shouldn't be like an extension of the shooter. I said it's not an extension of my ego. I never made any claims to be a crack shot. My whopping grand total of deer in my short hunting life (this will be season #6) is 5, yes 5. All of them shot at under 50 yards, so I don't see the return-on-investment of shooting several hundred rounds to do what? Practice trick shots of shooting between tree limbs @ 35 yards? I do believe I also stated in a previous post that I was limited in the amount of time I get to spend hunting each year, and so the 710 - or one in that price range - was a logical choice for me to make. I've got two neighbors who have much nicer rifles than mine - one has a Browning A-bolt and the other has a stainless Remington 700, but they don't hunt as much as I do. What good does that nice rifle do them?
And besides, none of this has anything to do with the "argument". I haven't even taken issue with the idea that the equivalent Savage is a great rifle. I've just asked for someone to explain WHY the 710 is junk and the same-priced Savage is so great. I just jumped in because I have a 710, used it for 3 seasons so far and it's performed fine. I have no reason to say it wouldn't serve someone else that doesn't need a high-dollar rifle just as well.
10-26-2006 | 11:26 PM
#64
Nontypical Buck
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From: Spokane Washington
RE: New Remington 710 rifle
Rootsy, as for the 710, I'm glad Remington makes them. They probably are too, because if I had had to put out $500+ on a rifle and scope setup, I wouldn't have bought a new rifle and they wouldn't have made some money off my purchase. My 710 has not had issues, failed to function or break. My hunting at this time does not require it to withstand much abuse. It takes a 45 minute ride in the truck from home to the area I hunt. Another 150 yards to walk to the treestand and then sits in a treestand for a few hours. With shots not over 50-60 yards in my current position, I sometimes wonder why I even spent that much money on a rifle. Probably just should have bought a used .30-30 with open sights for $150 at the pawn shop.
My point is that for my needs, the 710 does what I require. I don't care to spend a large sum of money ($500+) on a rifle. I might get to pull the trigger 3 or 4 time a year while hunting with my 710. Would like for it to be more than that, but the freezer can only hold so much venison. Some of you guys can hunt in a couple of seasons more than I will be able to do in a dozen years, so I'd rather get a "cheap" rifle for my hunting needs and direct my financial resources where I an get a better "return-on-investment".
My point is that for my needs, the 710 does what I require. I don't care to spend a large sum of money ($500+) on a rifle. I might get to pull the trigger 3 or 4 time a year while hunting with my 710. Would like for it to be more than that, but the freezer can only hold so much venison. Some of you guys can hunt in a couple of seasons more than I will be able to do in a dozen years, so I'd rather get a "cheap" rifle for my hunting needs and direct my financial resources where I an get a better "return-on-investment".
10-27-2006 | 12:43 AM
#65
Nontypical Buck
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From: Tennessee
RE: New Remington 710 rifle
If you want quality, look around. Mossberg's ATR has a very smooth action, and it comes in .270! They have a good quality for a cheap rifle, and it's the same with their shotguns(not over/under those are always expensive, but a pump is dirt cheap if it's been used, and very high quality.). Savage is also cheap, isn't it? A used model 700 SPS can be bought for under $250! Why buy the new piece of crap 710 for $300,
when you can buya usedmodel 700 SPS for $250, which hasa larger selection of calibers?
when you can buya usedmodel 700 SPS for $250, which hasa larger selection of calibers?
10-28-2006 | 06:55 PM
#67
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RE: New Remington 710 rifle
I wish I had read this forum before I bought my 710. I was looking for a cheap alternative to my 30+ year old 30-30 and ended up buying the "saturday night special" of hunting rifles. I got it out of the box and noticed that unlike the model I had examined in the store, my action was incredibly un-smooth. There will be no second shot attempts with this gun. Not to mention that after this one handling, I place my rifle in the corner near my gun cabinet to be broken down and cleaned. Only three days later, there is enough rust on the bolt I thought I would need a tetanus shot before I handled it again. I find this unacceptable...I have a sixty year old Mosin-Nagant milsurp rifle I bought over a month ago, that is in better condition than a brand new rifle right out of the box....Sad...nr
10-28-2006 | 09:44 PM
#69
Fork Horn
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From: Arlington, TN
RE: New Remington 710 rifle
ORIGINAL: Magnum_Man_300
...the 710 is a very cheaply made rifle, that would never be able to serve a guy who shoots 400 or 500 rounds a year.
...the 710 is a very cheaply made rifle, that would never be able to serve a guy who shoots 400 or 500 rounds a year.