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I don't know Rebel, Ive been there and done that. Well I was video taping as my brother was doing the cutting. I just felt bad for the poor boar with the pits tearing it apart while knifing

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I quess you have never seen a man tore and cut up by a
boss hog!;)

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You got me there.[:-]

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Guys,
I know one of the people that helped draft this rule. The INTENT of the rule was to allow folks to use Sharps and some of the older, first generation I guess you could call it, models of cartridge rifles during black powder season. The thought was that there weren't that many folks that would fall into this catagory, the repro guns are expensive and the originals hard to come by. The original draft also called for the cartridges be loaded with black powder as well.

Ok, that was the intent, now for what happened. The ruling was poorly written, people that should have known their firearms history let the draft through with the language of "pre 1900 breach lo loading" get approved. Several people, including myself warned the commission that this would allow firearms such as the H&R handi rifles be included as they are pretty much an exact copy of some of the early Wesson break open rifles. That cow was well out of the barn before anyone could do anything about it. Then, the original requirement for the cartridges in this catagory to be loaded with black powder. One of the commissioners, who fancies himself a BPCR specialist, was scared that some poor hunter would blow himself up trying to load up a batch of 45-70s at home (sinch retail black powder rounds can be hard to find and expensive) eliminated this requirment and rewrote the rule to allow smokeless powder.

Now where are we.
Many of the hunting retail stores are very upset. They ordered large inventories of BP guns to be used for muzzleloader season and guess what. Many folks are opting for handi-rifles in 44mag, 45-70 or 38-55, and not buying the front stuffers. This is leaving all the retailers with large selections of guns they can't sell. Handi rifles have become rare and hard to find in calibers larger than .38.

What is going to happen next year?
My guess is that this rule will go back to the way it was. Probably find lots of used, cheap, big bore, breach loading rifles on the market in Mississippi.

Basically, it was a rule with good intentions that got away from itself.
Ironically, one can now use a cartidge rifle during primitive season in Miss, but you still can't use a crossbow during bow season. Go figure.

Hank

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I have a pedersoli sharps replica. I shoot the standard lead 300 grain remingtons. They kick my ass from the stock end of the rifle so I have no doubt they would do the same from the muzzle end to anything you can hit with it. I would not hesitate to shoot ANYTHING ON THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT with this bullet. But I believ 150 yards is the absolute limit. I don't shoot mine at more than 100 yards.
okcmco
PS this load is deadly on hogs

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yeah I've done the " jump on the hog with a butcher knife while the dogs gotta hold on 'im thing" can get intresting:Danybody got any info on a low priced double rifle that chambered for 45-70 and/or .30-06. saw a short report about it somewhere. maybe Spartan or some other co. Kurt.

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That one statement right there creates a big problem for me.

Sounds like the state is wanting to give an advantage to the people with money. Be it the money to buy a replica or the money to collect an original. Either way the average hunter that buys a $300 in line can not come close to afford a Sharps, new or original.

IMHO the people involved with drafting this asanine rule had their heads crammed up their butts right up to their shoulders.

Hopefully Mississippi with rethink this rule and do away with it all together. Honestly you may as well just have one long hunting season with no regard to the killing tool one chooses.

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I bought a Marlin 1895 Cowboy in 45/70 a few years back. I reload to 1900 FPS, 405 gr. hardcast lead bullet. Knocks the snot out of big feral hogs. I love the gun. 10 roundsin the Cowboy, plus 6 more in my Vaquero (.45LC), Ifeel ready for whatever I get myself into. Hogzilla? Bring him on!