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Peadjis 06-15-2011 09:17 AM

Looking for some Broadheads.
 
Hello all,
I'll keep this simple.

Crossbow: Excalibur Ibex

Target: Mule Deer

Question: What Broadhead(s) would you recommend?

Also I wanted to add, some people have been refering me to crimson talon broadheads, any input on those?

Thanks

Mojotex 06-15-2011 01:25 PM

I use Montec 125 gr. These are a 3-blade design that flies great and is deadly. My X-Bow is rated to shoot 350 fps ... but I have never timed it. The broad head is a one piece design and requires sharpening if the edges are dulled. Takes only a few strokes on any quality flat surfaced sharpener. Not a replacable blade design. I have used these only on white tail and feral hogs.

smokepolehall 06-15-2011 06:19 PM

Mech. NAP Spitfire, fixed slick trick mag. & Montec G5 & Magnus Snuffer SS!

awshucks 06-15-2011 10:35 PM

What arrow? If GT L II w/ brass insert, 100gr Slick trick mags for me, quit looking once I tried them.

If Excal Firebolts, I'd try Excal 150 gr Boltcutters for FOC. I shoot the Gt's only, fwiw, but seems like there are lots of happy campers w/ previous.

Peadjis 06-16-2011 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by Mojotex (Post 3816819)
I use Montec 125 gr. These are a 3-blade design that flies great and is deadly. My X-Bow is rated to shoot 350 fps ... but I have never timed it. The broad head is a one piece design and requires sharpening if the edges are dulled. Takes only a few strokes on any quality flat surfaced sharpener. Not a replacable blade design. I have used these only on white tail and feral hogs.

Mines rated at 305fps, My arrows are about 80 grains heavier than the ones they used to test the fps though.. So ballpark 300.


Originally Posted by smokepolehall (Post 3816876)
Mech. NAP Spitfire, fixed slick trick mag. & Montec G5 & Magnus Snuffer SS!

Hmm, lots of options...what crossbow are you using?


Originally Posted by awshucks (Post 3816918)
What arrow? If GT L II w/ brass insert, 100gr Slick trick mags for me, quit looking once I tried them.

If Excal Firebolts, I'd try Excal 150 gr Boltcutters for FOC. I shoot the Gt's only, fwiw, but seems like there are lots of happy campers w/ previous.

Haven't bought all my arrows yet. Just bought a 12 pack of Easton Razer bolts for target shooting.

I'll have a look at the excalibur arrows and broads for sure though, once i buy that stuff, thanks for the input everybody.

Also one thing about the excalibur arrows, defiantly go for the carbon ones not the alumi's right?

awshucks 06-16-2011 07:12 AM


Also one thing about the excalibur arrows, defiantly go for the carbon ones not the alumi's right?
You'll probably find that answer 'six of one, half a dozen of the other, lol.

One thing about the Slicks, you can tune run out [wobble] via the instructions on the packages. Basically, you keep spinning the washer and rechecking. Slick's like higher FOC in my limited testing of them.

I first learned of them in my pre-computer days from Danny Miller, USA warranty rep in Oh, fwiw. I don't care for mechs or alum arrows, lol.

pm sent soon.

Peadjis 06-16-2011 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by awshucks (Post 3816977)
You'll probably find that answer 'six of one, half a dozen of the other, lol.

One thing about the Slicks, you can tune run out [wobble] via the instructions on the packages. Basically, you keep spinning the washer and rechecking. Slick's like higher FOC in my limited testing of them.

I first learned of them in my pre-computer days from Danny Miller, USA warranty rep in Oh, fwiw. I don't care for mechs or alum arrows, lol.

pm sent soon.

Ok, I just bought the 12 pack of eastons for target shooting, my bro likes doing that too and they where only $3.80 each thought those would be better for target shooting since i don't want him busting a 10-15 buck arrow if/when he misses.

Anywho looks like i got all the info i need, thanks guys, also thanks awshucks for the pm. Was helpful.

Cossack 06-17-2011 05:57 AM

Have tried using two different arrows for practice and hunting with mixed results. Beeman Thunderbolt and my own GT Lazer II weigh about the same, fletched with the same vanes, aluminum nocks (albeit the GT has a threaded hile in it) yet fly to slightly different point of impact. Both brands fly consistently the same. Hmmm? Difference in spine make to blame?
As for broadheads, Slick Tricks std or mags for fixed, NAP Spitfires seem to fly best fro me. So much like field tips that I no longer practice with same, just check zero with 'heads when hunting starts.

Peadjis 06-17-2011 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Cossack (Post 3817188)
Have tried using two different arrows for practice and hunting with mixed results. Beeman Thunderbolt and my own GT Lazer II weigh about the same, fletched with the same vanes, aluminum nocks (albeit the GT has a threaded hile in it) yet fly to slightly different point of impact. Both brands fly consistently the same. Hmmm? Difference in spine make to blame?
As for broadheads, Slick Tricks std or mags for fixed, NAP Spitfires seem to fly best fro me. So much like field tips that I no longer practice with same, just check zero with 'heads when hunting starts.

Yep, I think im going to go out and get a 6 pack of alumi excalibur arrows and a 6 pack of carbons, like awshucks said, as for broadheads i'll first look whats available, at the current places i've looked, which was walmart(lol) and a local hunting store, walmart has crimson talons and the hunting store had excalibur boltcutters and excalibur mechs.

gendoc 06-17-2011 04:33 PM

excalibur (easton) firebolts and nap spitfire 125gr mbh...
my family's stats last season...
11 shot... and 11 recovered :rock:

Peadjis 06-18-2011 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by gendoc (Post 3817327)
excalibur (easton) firebolts and nap spitfire 125gr mbh...
my family's stats last season...
11 shot... and 11 recovered :rock:

Seems that people like the firebolts, i can get a pack of 6 for $46, as for broadheads im not 100% yet. Probably test out the excalibur boltcutters.

awshucks 06-19-2011 09:15 AM

You might want to consider rolling your own. Az-EZ fletch is simple and inexpensive, they now offer an xbow arrow model which I know nothing about. If regular AZ, be sure to get the one for alum's, which will take 'our' carbons, carbon model is for skinny vert arrows.

We can get a doz GT's here from Wyvern creations for about $45, he will glue nocks and inserts in. not sure on prices, been a while since I bought any.

Gendoc: Respectable stat's on several fronts. Congrats.

MatthewUSMC 06-19-2011 04:45 PM

Just cuz your buying expensive arrows/bolts doesnt mean they are going to shoot any better then OEM Easton.... Also dont waste your time with CARBON... THEY ARE junk..... They will break and when they do, you could get it in your face or if it breaks in the animal your wasting alot of meat because you cant eat it because its contaminated... Also you cant straighten CARBON but EAston aluminum you can get damn near perfectly straight to .001" from end to end.... All crossbow makers want you to shoot the 2219.... they are the best for a $4 bolt and you can straigthen them and they fly nice with a slight helic on them if you do custom fletchings...

Save yrou money and shoot the XX75 or the XX78 shafts and any of the decent fletching will work well.. Run a Spitfire or a thunderhead 100gr... I shoot my horton @ 320fps and groups 2-3" groups at 40yds ALL day long.. so what more do you want and im not spending tons of money on it either.... You dont shoot past 40 yards anyways... Once bows go past 400fps then yes shoot game at 50yds, but until then, they will jump or move and you just shot your deer in the ass, the leg or some other stupid place.. JMO

Peadjis 06-19-2011 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by MatthewUSMC (Post 3817786)
Just cuz your buying expensive arrows/bolts doesnt mean they are going to shoot any better then OEM Easton.... Also dont waste your time with CARBON... THEY ARE junk..... They will break and when they do, you could get it in your face or if it breaks in the animal your wasting alot of meat because you cant eat it because its contaminated... Also you cant straighten CARBON but EAston aluminum you can get damn near perfectly straight to .001" from end to end.... All crossbow makers want you to shoot the 2219.... they are the best for a $4 bolt and you can straigthen them and they fly nice with a slight helic on them if you do custom fletchings...

Save yrou money and shoot the XX75 or the XX78 shafts and any of the decent fletching will work well.. Run a Spitfire or a thunderhead 100gr... I shoot my horton @ 320fps and groups 2-3" groups at 40yds ALL day long.. so what more do you want and im not spending tons of money on it either.... You dont shoot past 40 yards anyways... Once bows go past 400fps then yes shoot game at 50yds, but until then, they will jump or move and you just shot your deer in the ass, the leg or some other stupid place.. JMO

Thanks for your post.

Ya i thought of doing that, i have about 12 XX75 shafts laying around and about 15 XX78 shafts. Used to use them for compound bows.
Might cut some of them down to 20" and fletch them up. For now i bought a 12 pack of easton razer bolts for 43bucks. I ordered them along with all my other stuff, isn't here yet, just had a bare bow, no string or anything, so i got a pretty big order coming in at the end of the month.

awshucks 06-20-2011 06:58 AM

The only problems I've experienced w/ carbons [Gt's L II's] in over 6 years was shooting $10 squirrels in very rocky terrain.

Peadjis 06-20-2011 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by awshucks (Post 3817918)
The only problems I've experienced w/ carbons [Gt's L II's] in over 6 years was shooting $10 squirrels in very rocky terrain.

Yea, some of my neighbors want me to shoot some pests and such so i got the easton razerbolts which where about 3.80 per arrow, and i got plenty of field tips laying around.

As for the arrows im going to use for hunting I'm not so sure of yet, as i can see there are plenty of options and all seem to work for the person who uses it, just gotta find what works for me.

awshucks 06-20-2011 11:55 AM

My 1st Excal, this go round ['05] was the Emax, also had a Paradox [google is your friend] followed w/ bow of choice, an Exocet, aka Y-25 wood stocked 25th anniversary model.

I've taken a respectable amount of game w/ those three and GT L II's. 3 deer, 4 hogs, 3 turkeys and a cow buff, all but the buff were complete pass thru's.

Never broke a carbon shaft [sans squirrels]or ate pieces of one. YMMV.

My best benched groups, 5 @ 50, were GT's w/ 2" Blazers 400 gr out of the Y-25, 1" and 1.5". No bhead tests that far for obvious reasons.

Gobble! 06-21-2011 05:45 PM

I shoot the GT Laser out of my equinox.
I put wraps and blazers on.
From a bench if I shoot at the same spot I'm going to ruin some arrows.
Last year I used 2 blade rage heads. They were devastating. 2" plus entry and exit holes.
The way they locked into place scared me though.
This year I plan on using Swhackers!! They seem devastating as well.
I feel more confident that those blades would never open in flight.

Peadjis 06-24-2011 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by awshucks (Post 3817987)
My 1st Excal, this go round ['05] was the Emax, also had a Paradox [google is your friend] followed w/ bow of choice, an Exocet, aka Y-25 wood stocked 25th anniversary model.

I've taken a respectable amount of game w/ those three and GT L II's. 3 deer, 4 hogs, 3 turkeys and a cow buff, all but the buff were complete pass thru's.

Never broke a carbon shaft [sans squirrels]or ate pieces of one. YMMV.

My best benched groups, 5 @ 50, were GT's w/ 2" Blazers 400 gr out of the Y-25, 1" and 1.5". No bhead tests that far for obvious reasons.

I just bought a new equinox and gave my ibex to my brother because he started getting into it too.

Been shooting the Excalibur Firebolts out of it, been hitting pretty well. Don't have any broadheads for it yet. Will most likely be trying boltcutters, x-acts, spitfires or slick tricks.


Originally Posted by Gobble! (Post 3818345)
I shoot the GT Laser out of my equinox.
I put wraps and blazers on.
From a bench if I shoot at the same spot I'm going to ruin some arrows.
Last year I used 2 blade rage heads. They were devastating. 2" plus entry and exit holes.
The way they locked into place scared me though.
This year I plan on using Swhackers!! They seem devastating as well.
I feel more confident that those blades would never open in flight.

Thanks for your post.

Michlw39 09-09-2011 03:59 AM

I use the NAP Spitfires. In my personal experience, they are devastating. They're also cheaper to buy than the RAGE and some others.

Buckhunter46755 09-10-2011 09:08 PM

I've always had good luck with the NAP SPitFires. However I have a pack of Rocket MeatSeekers I am going to try this year. Also gonna trade my brother in law a meatseeker for a 2 blade rage to try out also.


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