Varizone scope legal in Alabama?
 

I recently bought an Excalibur Vortex crossbow and put a Lumizone scope on it and love it. I was planning on hunting in Georgia and Alabama. However, I ran across this tonight on the Alabama DNR website:
First, it describes what a bow is:

(1) A legal bow for hunting is defined as either a long bow, a recurve bow,

or a compound bow designed to be held, drawn, and fired in the upright

(vertical) position, or a crossbow....

Then it goes on to say this:

(2) Sighting and aiming devices on all bows shall be void of any electronics

with computational capabilities. The use of electrically assisted aiming

devices shall be limited to illuminated sight pins/beads/markings which are

attached to the bow. Sights with magnification or light projection (laser type)

features are prohibited.


Does this mean the Lumizone or Varizone scopes aren't allowed in Alabama? I know these scopes don't advertize or aren't marked with power settings, only in fps.

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the part where it states no magnification is the killer, vari or lumi both are in the area of a 2.5x4x power scope. you need to ck with Al. Game & Fish on that. see what they have to say its not good for CB's specially for those of us with old eyes that don't focus well.[&o]

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Cpoole,
You are correct. You can't use magnification in the state of AL. All magnified scopes are illegal for both compounds and crossbows. Red dots only.
Randy

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I bought a lumizone when I bought my Excalibur Equinox last year.
I live in Arkansas and now that you say it has some magnification I'm worried that I'm breaking the law.


Technically, AGFC only lists no magnification under the long bow/ compound bow section and only states in the crossbow section the draw limit, broadhead size, mechanical safety required and no poision allowed.

No where under the crossbow section does it say anything about magnification not being allowed.

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08.04 ARCHERY TACKLE RESTRICTION.It shall be unlawful to take or attempt to take wildlife with long bow and arrow or compound bow and arrow other than as specified herein.
(A) Bows having a minimum pull of 40 pounds at some point within the draw length.
(B) Bows without telescopic or magnifying sights.
(C) Bows using arrowheads with a minimum width of 7/8 inch (except any smaller size may be used for other than deer, turkey or bear).
(D) Bows using arrows not containing poisonous chemicals.


08.06 CROSSBOW RESTRICTIONS.It shall be unlawful to hunt with a crossbow of less than 125 pounds pull, or with an arrowhead less than 7/8 inch in width (small game hunters exempt), or without said crossbow having a functional mechanical safety device.It shall also be unlawful to possess arrows containing poisonous chemicals.
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I'm thinking that if I can't use my Lumizone then I will just mod a bow sight to work on my crossbow instead of going with a red dot scope.



Thanks,


Tworr

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hold up hold up, the post was about Alabama, not Ark. we seemed to have gotten a misunderstanding![:o][:-]

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Just got me to wondering how it was worded and if it applied to us in Arkansas.

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Guess I'll have to contact Alabama game and fish but it looks like I'll be using my crossbow in Georgia and my compound in Alabama.

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I have lived and hunted AR for some time, under AR law you can use a scope on a crossbow, but not on a compound,recure or long bow.
I do believe the law makers took into consideration what each group wanted for themselfs and ignored the sneaking around and backstabing some groups do. I do believe they have the right idea. Lee

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:DKinda O/T here, but I came across an older model Weaver K-3, post reticule I put on a Ruger 44 mag carbine I bought recently. In looking for info on the scope, I learned they also sold a "K-1" model. Since the K-3 is 3x, I assume [look out] the K-1 is 1x or no magnification and would be legal in Al??? something to check out, maybe.

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There is several one power scopes made I believe the best one is the Nikon used a lot in Wiaconson for muzzle loader hunting they have a no magnification law. Lee

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tworr: I live in AR (Greenwood). Magnified scopes on crossbows are allowed.
Here is an AR specific hunting forum, they can give you all kinds of good AR specific info:
http://www.thearkansashuntingandfish....com/index.php

RE: Varizone scope legal in Alabama?
 

Alabama has some archaic hunting laws. It seems they want you to mame the animal instead of making a clean and humane kill.

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NightFire
I live in Heber Springs [on Greers Fairy lake]and Awshucks lives about 80 miles south west of me, one of these days maybe we could all get together for a boar hunting trip or something there is likely a couple more AR guys around somewhere to. Lee

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Good idea, Lee. I'm up for about anything, have a good layout for a 3-D setup. Tworr is over by LR, Mountainbuck from the Ar forum has already been here. I booked a buff hunt in Tx for sometime in Oct or early Nov when it cools down some.

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I did a pass on the magnified scopes for my xbow. I don't want to give myself a distorted sense of distance. If Iforget my range finder, I may get theidea that thedeer is in range and take a shot that is notmakeable.

Being a new guy to xbow hunting, I am trying to get it into my head the idea of distance restrictions and I think the magnified image will not help me for a realistic shot. I may be wrong, but it makes sense tome. Am I wrong?

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I am new to the whole crossbow hunting thing myself. I do live and hunt in alabama and I'm just happy that AL finally woke up and made crossbows legal. As for the restrictions, I'm not sure why you'd need a magnification scope. Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable taking a shot at a range where magnification would come in handy. Excessively long shots are for the "professionals" and not for me.

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While I can't speak for every scoped xbower, I can tell you that the additional aim points from 10 through 50 yds are handy if you want to lob one at a rabbit or a yote. I have a Leupold VX II 2x7 that has xbow reticules for 20 through 60 yds and works on the same change the power, change the field of view principle as the V and L zones. Mine, like the other stated models is close to the lowest power, i.e. 2x for me and 2.5 x for the 'zones. I occasionaly use the 7x to test arrows, ect since the 20 yd main crosshair is not affected by degree of magnification.

Different strokes for different folks, lol. Have fun!