Survival guide to full inclusion
 

For those that are unaware of the famous NABC Crossbow Talking Points. These are 35-38 points against crossbow inclusion. The local state organizations are using these straight from the NABC handbook to keep crossbows out of your states. Well I decided it was time to start a counterpoint project. Here are the first 5 pages of many to come. Let me know what you all think.
http://www.crossbownation.com/facts_myths.html

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Have a look at this. It may save you some time.

http://www.tenpointcrossbows.com/documents/MicrosoftWord-FinalTenPointResponsetoNABCCrossbowTalkingPoints.p df

Randy

RE: Survival guide to full inclusion
 

I took a more graphic and personal approach. I actually started with a draft that looks a lot like the Tenpoint one. I also do not have any crossbow company interests so they can't use that against me.

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"They" will say you were bought by the crossbow companies and they will use anything they can against you, whether it is true or not. Have fun with it!
Randy

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How true! I'd say I [and others] have been called "crossbow salesmen" as much as you, Randy, but that would be a gross exageration. I love it when they do that along w/ using the term "crossgun". Kinda takes me back in history and lets me know how Custer felt when the 7th was running out of ammo, lol.

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That's the first time I've read those talking points from NABC, but I had a strange feeling of deja vu while reading it. Most of their talking points come straight from that old report released by PBS's anti-crossbow committee.

I don't wonder that support for their opposition to crossbows was unanimous. From what I heard - and it's only hearsay - they didn't allow anyone in the door that wasn't rabidly anti-crossbow.

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Their arguments (talking points) are so thin the only way they can win is to out number and out organize the pro crossbow folks. Thanks to modern communication via the internet they are losing ground on the front lines for a change. Ohio, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Wyoming, Tennessee, Virginia and just this year Louisiana and South Carolina all have full inclusion now. Michigan is waiting for a senate vote after the house passed their bill at 94-14-2. Pennsylvania doesn't even need a vote it's in the hands of their game commission and may get passed in October.

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Gentlemen, the cat's out of the bag. It's highly unlikely that they can stop furthercrossbow inclusion in archery seasons with their bogus rants that have so many holes shot in them that they would look like Swiss cheese. I'd be ashamed to be associated with suchorganizations.

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I remember seeing a post somewhere. They compared it to putting toothpaste back in the tube. Quite appropriate if you ask me. Maybe that was your post? I can't seem to find it again.

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I used that term recently about how MBH was indeed working on revising the disability provisions in MI now that full inclusion looms in their future. It's currently 80% disabled only w/ forms to be filled out by both a Dr and physical therapist. Leaves lotsa of folks to fall through the cracks.

Unreal. Btw, I forgot where I read the phrase, but it tickled me too, lol.

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go ahead and look at the Regions/NE in the PA debate going on w/ the Compound boys. I been living alone on that fight any help is appreciated. Seems as though Compund clubs feel superior w/ there new thechnology. It s pretty easy to trip them up though. About 14 pages of arguments!

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Having started in archery in the 1950s with longbows and recurves all shot barebow instinctive,having never changed to compound bows,I feel I have some basis in saying too many in archery today are being hypocritical about crossbows. We need all the hunters in the field we can get as the popularity and percentage of Americans that hunt continues to decline. Either we work together to educate the public and preserve our hunting heritage or we lose it one at a time.

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nicely put.

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You just have to laugh at some of the smug elitism on the part of those folks. They act like every verticle bow hunter is some sort of apostle of the bowhunting religion who spends hours a day, year around practicing their skills. I've been around quite a few bow hunters and have yet to seethe diligence that some of these clowns claim characterizes verticle bow shooters.