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mossbergman11 01-01-2008 07:57 PM

Excaliber Vixen?
 
Is this a good crossbow? it sure is a lot cheaper than other excalibers!

Dnk 01-01-2008 08:12 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
It's a great bow! I have two of them. If you are an arrow addict then you'll appreciate the more friendly cocking effort. They are plenty easy on the servings too. A record moose was taken with one in Ontario so I think it is pretty good for deer too! Smolepole loves them!

mossbergman11 01-01-2008 08:14 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
wow they are SOOOOOOOOO much cheaper than the other excalibers!

Dnk 01-01-2008 08:29 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
Mostly marketing. People who want speed are willing to pay. The other reasons? No camo and no Disapator Pads. Other than that the other bows are the same bows that have longer strokes, thats all. You have to ask yourself, do you really want to cock 225 lbs rather than 150? Do you want to reserve strings often? Do you need more speed? Do you need a camo bow? Do you want more noise on the shot? Is the deer more dead with more speed? Can you estimate 30 yards? etc, etc, etc. Aside from all that it is considered an "entry" bow but it isn't, it's a great bow.
Oh I forgot to mention. I also own a Phoenix, an old Exocet 165 and an Exocet 200

mossbergman11 01-01-2008 08:31 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
im gonna ge tit i think

Dnk 01-01-2008 08:41 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
You won't be disappointed as long as you don't feel the need for speed. You're going to love it when punching targets. You won't mind cocking it for a few hours. The ease of cocking helps you shoot a bit more accurately too. Lets see if any other opinons arise. Don't buy one just from what I say. Pick one up and shoot one.

mossbergman11 01-01-2008 08:43 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
i could use it for wjitetailed deer right?

Dnk 01-01-2008 08:56 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
If it will take a moose the it's a no-brainer. Out to 30, maybe 35 yards on a calm deer it will be very, very effecient. No problem at all. If I only had a Vixen I would not hesitate to whack a deer or moose.

mossbergman11 01-01-2008 08:57 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
u dont got a vixen?

Dnk 01-01-2008 08:58 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 

ORIGINAL: Dnk

It's a great bow! I have two of them. If you are an arrow addict then you'll appreciate the more friendly cocking effort. They are plenty easy on the servings too. A record moose was taken with one in Ontario so I think it is pretty good for deer too! Smolepole loves them!

mossbergman11 01-01-2008 09:00 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 

u wrote that lol
u have one or dont?



ORIGINAL: Dnk

If it will take a moose the it's a no-brainer. Out to 30, maybe 35 yards on a calm deer it will be very, very effecient. No problem at all. If I only had a Vixen I would not hesitate to whack a deer or moose.

Dnk 01-01-2008 09:01 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
I have two of them. But if I had a Vixen only I would not hesitate to whack a deer or moose with it. It is all one needs to hunt whitetail with. You do not need more power than the Vixen offers.

mossbergman11 01-01-2008 09:03 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
oh ok i cant wait to get one

BigTiny 01-01-2008 11:24 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
Don't sweat the camo, you can do it yourself.




She never saw it coming!


Yeah, I know it's a doe, but she's my first archery kill. That bolt went thru her like nothing.

KLS 01-02-2008 04:27 AM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 

I dont own one but I agree with everyone else, I think a vixen would be a great choice, a better choice than what was thrown around in your other thread anyway

I own a phoenix, which is 175lb, and personally cant ever see needing anything more powerful, in fact anything with more power would be a step backward IMO, so that 150lb vixen would be more than enough




the solid "deerhide" brown is the only thing that I see as kind of lame about it, I realise that its probably meant to keep cost down but I would think that the "deerhide brown" is a coating too, just like the camo, so I just dont see why they cant offer a camo vixen, especially with the compatiblity of parts in the excalibur line...




I also noticed in your other thread that you didnt really like the idea of spending $300 on a crossbow, keep in mind that the other bows mentioned there were package deals and included just about everything you need to shoot/hunt, the cheapest I've found a new vixen for was just under $300 just for the bare bow, everything else your going to need that you dont already have, or can steal for a different setup(arrows to cut down and/or broadheads), is going to cost extra, and you can easily drop over $100 just in the basics

I'm not big on buying things like bows used because the chances of getting one that someones damagedalong the line is so high, but in your case maybeyour best betwould be to try tohunt down a good used one

Hotburn76 01-02-2008 09:20 AM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
Like others said the Vixen will get it done just fine. The only thing going up in CB is how far you want to walk to get your pass through arrow in the field.

Like KLS I thought money was a big deal breaker for you. You can get a bare bow from BHSS for 319. and then get a few extras and they add up. If 300 is not a deal breaker then the Vixen is a much better choice then the summit I recommended in the other thread. Good luck!

mossbergman11 01-02-2008 10:44 AM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
is the camo really nesssecary?

ranger56528 01-02-2008 01:47 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
If ya dont want the wife or girlfriendto find it it is......:D:D:D.....camo does help in certain situations but dont put it down and walk away[:o]too far,you might not find it for awhile:)...................

Dnk 01-02-2008 02:25 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 

ORIGINAL: ranger56528

If ya dont want the wife or girlfriendto find it it is......:D:D:D.....camo does help in certain situations but dont put it down and walk away[:o]too far,you might not find it for awhile:)...................

mossbergman11 01-02-2008 02:44 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 

Hotburn76 01-02-2008 03:16 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 

ORIGINAL: mossbergman11

is the camo really nesssecary?
For just your CB? No. I would not let camo on a gun or CB be my deciding factor unless I planned on hunting turkey. I own a full camo set up, but killed plenty of deer in jeans and a carhart coat sitting on the ground.

graveyard zombie 01-02-2008 05:51 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
I've got both the Vixen (deerhide brown) and a Phoenix (camo) but I like shooting my Vixen more. I'm not sure that not being camo is a hinderance since I hunted for years with shotguns and rifles that had brown wooden stocks and shiny blue steel and still got more than my fair share of deer. Like Hotburn, I've also done well with non-camo clothing and I sometimes think we take camo to the extreme especially with smaller items. At least the deerhide brown is dull and non-reflective. You won't go wrong with any Excal crossbow no matter the model.

mossbergman11 01-02-2008 06:35 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
i mean camo the crossbow

KLS 01-02-2008 06:36 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 

ORIGINAL: mossbergman11

is the camo really nesssecary?


camo patterns on a crossbow isnt needed but it isvisual appealing, and admit it or not just about everyone around carries a fairly high regaurd for visual appeal when it comes to buying and owningthings like this


I'll bet if you were looking to buy one and I put a deerhide brown vixen and one decked out in excalibur camo on a table and said "you can have either one they're were both the same price" thatthere would be a surprising amount of deerhide brown ones left over after everyone chose...

not to mention that a color/pattern choice for the vixen would only help its sales, I'd bet money that the color alone has turned more than one person away from buying a vixen and I'm sure thedeerhidebrown has intensified more than one persons impression that the vixen is nothing but a "low end" model in excaliburs line, not even worthy of itssharp looking camo patterns...




I like the vixen and wouldnt mind owning one myself, and when it comes right down to it I personally dont mind the deerhidebrown either, but I do like the camo patterns better, and given the choice thats what I'd want...



codsterboy 01-02-2008 07:21 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
I just bought a used VIXEN for my son for Christmas a little while ago. That thing shoots absolutely perfect. With a scope don't shoot at the same bullseye more than once at 20 yards unless you want to risk splitting a $10.00 carbon arrow!! Also the one I got is CAMO!! I don't know what year it is though? I would not hesitate to buy another one!!! My step DAD has an older HORTON HUNTER and he couldn't believe the accuracy difference.

BUY THE VIXEN , YOU WON'T BE SORRY!!!!

Dnk 01-02-2008 08:25 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
Codsterboy, If you got one in camo then you got away like a bandit. They carry a premium. I am looking for one in perfect shape.
Don

codsterboy 01-03-2008 04:35 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
I don't know how to post pictures so I will try to E-mail you with the pictures.

codsterboy 01-03-2008 04:40 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
I dont know how to even e-mail you a picture thru the post. I have to get the deep fryer going so i will try to figure it out later tonight!

mossbergman11 01-03-2008 06:29 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
i cannot wait to get this crossbow
is there a difference between recurve and compound crossbows besides easier pulling after certain time?

Hotburn76 01-03-2008 06:44 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
Recurve is a little wider, but not much. They also have less moving parts so you have less chance of things going wrong, no out of tune issues. A recurve is a do-it-yourself type of CB. With a compound you will have to have a press to do your work if need be. If you like to shot alot then a recurve is a must IMO. If you plan on setting it on a shelf and plunking a few arrows before season then you may not see the benefit of a recurve. Us recurve guys like our simple CB's, but it's not like I hear people wearing out cams left and right also. You get that Vixen and you will be one happy camper IMO.

Dnk 01-04-2008 10:53 AM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
codsterboy Sr's bow


KLS 01-04-2008 04:07 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
there you go...


IMO THATS what a vixen should look like... ;)

navaman 01-04-2008 05:08 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
i just took buck number 3 on the 2nd of this month. the last 2 at 15 yards and the first at 30 yards. two heart shots and one double lung shot. i love my vixen.

mossbergman11 01-04-2008 05:31 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
Dnk how did u get that camo on it?

codsterboy 01-05-2008 12:34 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
That's my bow. (Codsterboy). I bought it that way. The molded plastic is CAMO!!! It's not spray paint or tape. I don't what year it is or if it happens to be some special limited edition? All the ones I had seen were the derrhide brown, so when I seen this one for sale I jumped all over it!

awshucks 01-05-2008 12:44 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
Those style stocks are all interchangable. I suspect it came off another Excal if bought used or was a factory glitch if bought new. Like it better than the brown in any event!:)

codsterboy 01-05-2008 12:54 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
I bought it used. But what about the limbs? So then what differentiates a Vixen vs. another excalibur crossbow?? If you can interchange the parts??? Forgive me I'm still new at this crossbow stuff!!!

KLS 01-05-2008 11:47 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 

ORIGINAL: codsterboy

I bought it used. But what about the limbs? So then what differentiates a Vixen vs. another excalibur crossbow?? If you can interchange the parts??? Forgive me I'm still new at this crossbow stuff!!!

to my knowledge the only difference between them(the non thumbhole stock ones anyway) is a difference in draw length, or power stroke, wether they achive that by changing the length of the rail, the length of the riser, or a combination of bothI have no idea, I'm sure theres more than a couple people on here that could say for sure though

I wouldthinkmaking a camo vixenwould be as simple as swapping out whatever partsmake the vixen different ontoa phoenix... or maybe the way to go is just to buy the camo limbs and stock... without knowing for sure what parts are different, or what they cost,its hard to say(for me anyway) what would be the cheapest way to go about doing it parts-wise, or if parts can even be bought seperate for a conversion like this without much hassle,I've thought about it, but I've never actually looked into it...



I still say they should just offer it from the factory...

wabi 01-06-2008 01:29 AM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
The camo model was the "Vixen Deluxe" offered by Excalibur for about a year or sobefore they changed the riser to angle the limbs forward andoffered the Phoenix, exocet 200, and exomax. I guess they figured the new models would be the majority of the sales and dropped the camo Vixen Deluxe from the lineup.
The limbs are the same on all Excaliburs, the only difference from one model to the next is the rail length.

mossbergman11 01-06-2008 01:14 PM

RE: Excaliber Vixen?
 
are those peep sights on the vixen?



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