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FACT! Any responsible CB or Vertical bow hunter knows that any thing past thirty yards can be asking for trouble when it comes to string jump. That is fact and not a bogus claim. Adding seventy FPS to a CB does not double the yardage. The speed of sound does not slow down and even at 405 FPS sixty yards is a long way. Maybe the Stryker can push to 35 or 40 on string jump but even 40 would be pushing it IMO. An alert deer at forty yards could jump the string at 405 without a problem IMO.

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Sound goes about 1120 fps. Stryker 405. So what's a deers reaction time? 1/10 of a second is just under 40 yds. If the first sound it hears is the twang of the string after the arrow is gone. If it hears something before that then the distance would go down a lot. I think like you do, 40 for a non-alert deer might be safe under certain conditions.

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I think I am thinking the way you are, but you are right sound is around 1120 FPS and 40 yards is 120 feet so it takes the sound a tenth of a second to get there. 120 feet divided by 405 FPS is .296 of a second. But that is 405 fps the entire way. Them speeds are at three feet from CB and we all know a CB arrow looses it steam real fast. I would say it takes 4 tenths of a second for the arrow to get there and take off the speed of sound and now the deer has three tenths of a second to make his move, and move fast they can do, sometimes I think there flight instincts are inbred with a humming birds wings! FAST!! Then if the deer is looking at you and alert he has the full four tenths to make is move and he is probably ready to make his move as you shoot.

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Totally inaccurate statement. While 60 yards may be on the verge of extreme. 35-40 yard shots are taken quite regularly on deer size game and 50 yards is not uncommon on an Elk.

Of course string jump can always be a factor be it 10 yards or 50. Thats why you must be silent, scent free and still. Shooting at alarmed or alert deer (game) will produce a quicker reaction. I've seen deer jump at an arrow dragging acrossed a noisy rest and I've also seen good bucks not budge at a rifle miss. String jump is more dependant on other factors IMHO.

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Bowhunterssuperstore sent me an email that had a stryker for a more reasonable price. Still, I spent around $500 for a Vixen with the scope package and it shoots freakishly tight groups out to 40 yards. I'm not sure what else I could want.

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The voice of reason and maturity. I too would rather have an accurate bow first with the necessary reasonable speeds. At the prices we pay now a days it not how good the bow is its how long its that good that counts.
This thread is getting old and uninteresting.

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I haven't shot a Stryker. I have shot xbows at 300 fps and 350 fps, so I'm fairly familiar w/ 50 fps difference. It's not as much as you might think. At 350 fps, I won't take a shot on a white tail deer over 35 yds. I can get b-heads in a 3" group at 50 yds easy, all things being right.I know at 35 yds every deer I shoot at is dead, some maybe a little closer than others, but I'm confidant of recovering them. I would be comfortable at 50 yds on bear, moose or elk, but not deer. To each his/her own. No 60 ydrs for me w/ an arrow, regardless of fps or mfgrs aim points.

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I concur with awshucks![8D]

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Maybe I should not say irresponsible or fact and should say any thing under thirty is my and most people's extremely "safe" zone. Alot of guys take shots between thirty and fifty yards all the time, and if you wait until season starts you can stick around and read all the lame stories titled "what Happened" or "I need help Tracking" a great classic, or" I had a perfect shot But, But, But...."There will be all kinds of stories like that this fall and just about every one hasthe guy saying I have been practicing out to sixty yards with no problem and then say it was a calm deer and they just cant figure it out. I also love the" must have hit a twig" statement, another classic!!Maybe they did hit a twig, most don't IMO, and the ones that do where probably taking a long shot and were not smart enough to think of the arrow arch, another long rang shot disadvantage! But if you also look you will see lots of twenty, twenty five and thirty yard shots with a pic of a great deer! So people can take long shots, and they do all the time, but most thatlike to guarantee a clean kill and not a wounded animal like Dan, Don and Mike will not go past thirty to thirty five, and most of them guys will tell you thatthe majority of there deer have been alot less then that!

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Well, I've been mulling this over all day since I made my post on the subject. I'm bound to whiz somebody off here, but sorry, this is how I see it. First off, I have the utmost respect for the single pin xbow hunters, be it rifle scope, peep and pin or single red dot. They are for the most part well practised and know the ballistics of their rigs good enough to get-er-done. I favor the 5 aim points of the V-zone or L-zone. My memory isn't good enough to keep track of ranges and poi's so I use that crutch.

I've never been a fan of the Stryker. 1st off, a non xbow company upset the applecart on parity w/ compounds. The magic 400 fps barrier could have been passed long ago by several xbow mfgs. But, that's progress, and I understand it was just a matter of time. I'm more upset about their advertising campaign, [point, shoot, game over] and their 20-40-60 sight system. Most xbow mfgrs say in their paper work or advertising 40 yds is it folks. Stryker didn't. Can one kill a deer at 60 yds w/ a Stryker?? Hell yes, just like they can w/ most of the 300-330 fps stuff out there. My complaint if you will, is there are bound to be new guys plopping $1600 out for a bow they think they can whack deer w/ at 60 yds on a regular basis. The previous xbowers and archery hunters are going to take this all w/ a grain of salt and work out their own limits. Follow me here a bit. Here you are out in your stand w/ Stryker. A nice buck is browsing at 50 yds. Is that actually 50 yds? Ranged? Guessed? Maybe only 47, but could be 53??. If you have practised repeatedly for this scenario, well odds are probably in your favor, THIS time, if you had enough bucks left to get a rf and use it. My fear if you will, is the unfamiliar will think they are infallible due to their equipment. Don't work that way in reality.