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Planter 07-01-2006 07:25 AM

I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
After a few days spent shooting aluminium arrows I see why I prefer the carbons.They both fly the same for me, but I just can't seem to pull the aluminiums out of a fresh target without bending them. Anyone use one of those arrow pullers? Either the screw in the end ones or the wrap arounds? A Yote was in the backyard this AM. He did not wait around long. Will be watching for his return>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Whack!!!!Not that I would stick the beast out of season. That just would not be right.

awshucks 07-01-2006 09:53 AM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
Best $11.00 I've spent, made by Danny Miller 740 483-2312.

kevin1 07-01-2006 05:49 PM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
Are you shooting broadheads or field points ? The type of target you have may also be the greater share of the problem . I shoot aluminums exclusively into a 3-D deer target and I have no problem with Bheads or field points .

Planter 07-01-2006 08:16 PM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
Some field points and a few broadheads. Of course no problems with the bags and field points but a fresh 3D deer seems I gotta wrestle them out. Not that the aluminium are any tougher to pull, they just don't like the wrestling match as much as the carbons. Neat looking puller Dan butsit jaws seem harsh?

awshucks 07-02-2006 08:25 AM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
Planter: The jaws are lined w/ soft plastic tubing, don't leave so much as a mark on even my "tarted up shafts" w/ wraps lol. They work well even if you have to grab behind the vanes. There are even ribs on the plastic, class piece of machinery.

Dnk 07-03-2006 06:52 PM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
I just spray my carbons and aluninums with silicone. In foam targets the shafts melt the target material. Gold Tip tells me to spray the shaft with Pam. Anyways, there were times when shooting too close the the target, I had to tip the target over and stand on it the pull the arrows out. Silicone makes a huge difference. If I had to guess Planter's aluninum shafts are heavier so they melt more foam.

squirrelkilla23 07-03-2006 07:12 PM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
holy crap i know!!!! i shoot 2219 carbons out of my horton and being the deadly stud i am with my horton i figured i'd be cool and shoot my deer foam target in the eye . haha bad mistake on my part. i had to cut off half it's eye area to get it out! never shot that target with the xbow again! i shoot bags exclusively

Dnk 07-03-2006 07:16 PM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
Hehehe don't you just hate it when a seemingly good idea looks like a retarded one in retrospect???? LOL

awshucks 07-03-2006 08:22 PM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
I had problems w/ a major name brand target, took me and two buds to pull carbon LII's out. The company advertised a 5 year old removing arrows, which was indeed true, as long as they were aluminum or other brands of carbons besides Gold Tip. Dang, I just loved that target, which was good for b-heads or field tips, just had too many GT LII's to switch to some thing else. Now, I'm using McKenzie's, orange colored, works great w/ both.

smokepolehall 07-04-2006 08:00 AM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
To da squirrel 2219's that are carbon? Or did ya put the wrong word in dare, be they alum.?[:-][:o]

sproulman 07-14-2006 09:20 PM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
why waste money.listen to ole sproul.get a big feed bag at feed mill. cost.50 cents. fill it with old rags ,jeans etc.it will stop your arrow.i see people wasting money on those foam targets.been doing this for 40 years,so i guess i know a little.

awshucks 07-14-2006 10:22 PM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
Hi Sproulman!! Welcome to the forum!! Sometimes knowing a little can be a lot around here!! lol Looking forward to picking your brain!!

Oops! See ya got 150 more posts than me, lol so guess you ain't new after all, just didn't recognize the name. Still gonna pick your brain!! LOL

Planter 07-15-2006 05:35 AM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
I use big old burlap bags that used to hold coffee. Double them up, stuff them with rags, (check wifes closet)throw on a couple of zip ties and you are more than set.Easy to make, last a long time and are perfect for hanging randomly around the back forty. I spray paint an aiming point or two on the backs and even they last a long time. I will say that they weigh close to a ton when they are wet.>>>>>>>>>Whack

htoler 07-15-2006 06:51 AM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
now this is good info too bad I didnt hear this before I plunked down 90 bucks on a usless Block crossbow target that you cannot pull arrows out of without tying the to the bumper of yer truck and locking it into 4 wheel drive..
sounds like you guys just made the same target that I gave Morrell 70 bucks for ,, guess I give 70 bucks for the pretty packaging although the Morrell target works great cant complain about it..

BuddyBo 07-15-2006 07:45 PM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
Ain't it the truth htoler about that darn crossbow block? I bought one too and I thought I'd have to leave the arrows in the thing as I couldn't hardly get them out. I had to stand on the thing and pull with both hands and the foam was burned onto the carbon arrow. I hate it and told the company on the phone they were false advertising. LOL. Thinking now I might make a rag sack like you guys are talking about to shoot into.
BBO

Planter 07-16-2006 07:48 AM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
The four-sided block has been a bit of a drag for broadheads. Tear out the guts of the target just pulling an arrow. The butt end of a wally world 3d works better. I guess we do have four sides to shoot at so maybe it will last awhile>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Whack

moxie1884 07-16-2006 10:21 AM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
I moved from alumnum bolts last year because of the way they flew. I found the alumnum to be more difficult to get out of the decoy even with the pliers type puller. I do like my carbons.

excalibur43 07-17-2006 03:56 AM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 

ORIGINAL: Dnk

I just spray my carbons and aluninums with silicone. In foam targets the shafts melt the target material. Gold Tip tells me to spray the shaft with Pam. Anyways, there were times when shooting too close the the target, I had to tip the target over and stand on it the pull the arrows out. Silicone makes a huge difference. If I had to guess Planter's aluninum shafts are heavier so they melt more foam.
That's a great idea DNK!

sproulman 07-17-2006 11:54 AM

RE: I figured it out....Carbon vs. Aluminium
 
some put car wax on arrows and shine them up so they pull out easy.others use pam cooking spray.on the target thing. my feedmill bag or as someone said ,burlap bag if you can find one.stuff with rags, old jeans ,shirts etc. i then get a cardboard box, i stick the bag inside the box.you can sometimes find boxes at the appliances stores out back they will give you.some of these boxes are about 4 ft high with tops cut off.you then drop in your bag.then put or paint on front of box your target.i use those little orange stick-on targets for your rifles.but they fall off sometimes after you pull arrow out. so, best is to spray on a mark with black paint.i seen people take box and spray white paint on it about 12 x 12 sq.then in center ,spray a dot of black paint ,or get a black marker,any make any kind of mark you want in center of white.use your money to buy extra arrows.also this set-up is portable, you can take it with you,just get a smaller height box if you dont have room in your car.


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