10 Point Titan TL-4
 

I am getting close to purchasing my first crossbow. After hours of research, I am zeroingin on the Ten Point Titan TL-4.I don't like the price however = $750.00. (Ugh) Would like to get better value.

Leaningtowardthis because I plan to be in a tree a part of the time and would like easier cocking with the ACUdraw crank system. Not sure if I should go with the three-dotor multi-line scope.

Also, I am told that the trajectory on this bow(or bows in the 280 FPS range) is asix inch drop between 20 & 30 yards. Notsure about 30 to 40 yds and 40- 50 yds. Thoughts?

Anycomments or recommendations are appreciated.

Thanks!

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I think Buddy Bo uses a Titan, he can tell ya more. Most guys cock their bow on the ground, then pull it up, unloaded, w/ rope. The Acudraw w/ crank is nice, but it is about $200. The Acudraw 50 is pretty much a built in rope cocker, which will require the same effort and motions as my rope cocker I carry in pocket. I don't much care for the multi dot red dots, they seem too close together for me. The 40 and 50 yd drop is kinda a moot point when deer hunting, few take shots much over 30 yds due to "string jump". I use Excals Vari-Zone and here's why. Once you sight the crosshair in at 20, you shoot at 30... then just turn the speed dial to get your point of impact right. The 40 and 50 yd aim points on verticle hair will be right on, or at least close enough to hit a 3 inch circle out to 50. This will work on any bow or arrow combination. They can be had for $86 if you look around. 10 pt. has a new scope out, 3x w/ lit dots and xhairs, kinda a marriage between scope or red dot. Good luck!

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Vadeer,
The drop on the Titan is about 2-4 between 20-30 and about 6-8 between 30-40.
The Titan is a good value. I am guessing by the price you need the Acudraw. Because the Titan packages start at $499 with out the Acudraw.
It won the Inside Archery best by in 2004.
Let me know if you have detail questions on the bow I will be glad to answer.
Thanks,
Randy

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BuddyBo has a QX4 Elite with accudraw and cross hair Ten Point scope. The Titan is a good choice also though. I just had this extra money that was just killing me to spend on the top of the line at the time. If there had been a QX4000, I'd a bought that! LOL.
BBO

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Well its another very sad day to lose a new xbower so quickly, did you try out the Excalibur's before this terrible decision that ya made? Gee see what you have done! Made me break out in a bad rash just talking of 10 pt.'s OH Lordy Lordy what a pity! Hope i can change yer mind before ya throw all yer money away![&o][:o][:-][:-][8D][&o][&o][&o][&o][:-][:-][:-][:-][:o][:o][:o][:o][:o]

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Thanks forthe comments Guys. Made no decision yet.
Excalibur's could still be in play. What would be a comparable model?

The dealer actually steered me to the Ten Point. Mzybe there is more profit for him there. :)
Excalibur models were sitting right next to the Ten Points.

Point well taken on the cocking on the ground. Eliminates the need for the crank ACUdraw. A rope I suspectwill be fine for me. (Saving = $130.)

As far as string jump, do I understand this correctly-- up to 30 yds no problem but out to 40 or 50 yds need to aim low?

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The dealer was stearing you in the right direction,, I have the TenPoint ProElite , and do not regret getting her one bit,, I chose her over all the Excaliburs, for me feature for feature the Excalaburs do not come close..

Sorry Smoke my TenPoint can beat up your ExCalibur :):D;)

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vadeer: Most xbow hunters consider 30-35 yds their limit due to string jump possiblities on whitetail deer. The xbows all have the accuracy for longer range shots on less spooky animals like elk or moose. you can listen to me/these guys til the cows come home, but you're the one gonna have to chunk out the money and live w/ what ya get. They will all do the job. There is alot of brand loyalty here. Myself and others prefer the simplicity of the recurves, and being able to perform maintenance [very little] ourselves. Others like the compounds, a little more handy, less width, have pro shops available IF NEEDED. I am an Excal fan, but not as far as the "package" deals go, with any brand. Htoler loves his Pro-Elite, w/ all its bells and whistles, but for every feature on it, the cash register went Ka-ching!! Cadillacs cost LOL. You said this dealer has both sitting side by side, won't he let you try them? If I were you, when you look at the Excals, take a real close look at the Phoenix. The E'cet is alot of bow and more bucks for the few fps difference. Excals stock arrows are 350 gr. 10 pt has two, one at 420 gr and the other is the same as I use, 431 gr. Try to shoot the heavier arrow in both. Hand in there!

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Ditto what awshucks said!:DI also have the Phoenix and it will stack up to and out shoot most any xbow out there![:-][8D]I love it, couldn't pour me on a 10 pt. not that i have that kind of money to layout. I got the best xbow that i could afford, no it doesn't have 2 safeties but the one it has is great, and the person should be alert while using any xbow. Thumbs can get shreaded if stuck up by rail![:o][&o][:-][8D]:D

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In the interest of science I did stick my thumb above the rail. I would not recommend it to anyone.The thumb was retreived and has returned to full use.

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Thats why I love that forstock safty on my ProElite I will not have to expierence getting my thumd smacked by the string ,, that would have to hurt.. nor do I have to worry about having a dryfire and having to replace limbs. the Excal is a great and good shooting bow but it just dosent have the features of a TenPoint..

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Henry: Give it a rest!! Out of all the xbows out there, your Pro -Elite is one of the only ones that has a dry-fire inhibitor and a fore arm safety. There are approximately 500,000 crossbow hunters in North America, shooting all kinds of different bows. How do they all survive w/o the forearm safety and dry-fire inhibitor??? !st thing I'd do on forearm safety is super glue that puppy out of existance, if mechanically feasable. Think about this for a minute. I'm left-handed sooooo.... that fore arm safety means to me I can only hold the bow in one position, where my thumb is on the button; not a condition I want. You seem to keep confusing available options w/ over all quality. I'm trying to make a point here, if you want the bells and whistles and are willing to pay for them, you cannot beat a 10 pt. If you don't want all that, there are other more economical choices out there. Yer buddy/former buddy Dan

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whatever Dan if you check into Tenpoints they can be converted for hunters/shooters that are left handed..
if you guys want me to give it a rest about TenPoints then Give it a rest about ExcaliBurs chang your own string,, simple.. Im just bring up the features TenPoints have to offer just like you have been doing about Excaliburs.. as you stated theres more than one choice out there unless you listen to smoke..

you chose former buddy your choince but as long as you guys keep pushing what Excal has to offer I will keep putting out what TenPoints have to offer..

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Htoler: "the dealer was steering you in the right direction" Didn't you just get severely reamed on EXcal forum over some $6.00 an hour wookie at Cabela's telling you that Excals were the best Xbow out there??? Seem's a little inconsistant to me. The unfortuneate part of this whole debacle is I cannor honestly argue w/ Htoler w/o some of you thinking Excals are way better than 10 pts. Trust me, they are not. Both are great xbows and great mfgrs, ya can't go wrong w/ either one. There are advantages and disadvantages to both, gets to the realm of personal choice. Pick your own!!! Straight Arrows to All!!

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oh and the forarm stock can be bypassed the crossbow come with the device to do that..

this amazes me how it is ok for everyone to come on this site and sing the praises of Excaliburs,, but when the features of another Crossbow is brought up thats unacceptable..

its just fine for smoke and others to say there is only one crossbow on the market , but not ok for me to talk about the features of the ProElite..

well sorry if it offends you but as long as anyone ask a question about what the different crossbows on the market has to offer I am sure you guys will talk and promote Excals and I will do the same about TenPoints..
sorry it bothers you guys that another person is chosing a TenPoint over an ExCalibur.. just because some of you think an ExCalibur is the best dosent mean everyone will...

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The dealer was stearing you in the right direction,, I have the TenPoint ProElite , and do not regret getting her one bit,, I chose her over all the Excaliburs, for me feature for feature the Excalaburs do not come close..

Sorry Smoke my TenPoint can beat up your ExCalibur

that whole post was more a poke at Smoke because he keeps saying Excals are the only crossbow worth looking at.

Excals are a good bow I have never said they were not,, I have said they do not have the features which I like that my ProElite has .. in the end I hope everyone buys the crossbow that fits them best no matter what brand it is,,

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Htoler: We Excal enthusiasts do not say ours is the absolute best out there, except for Smokepole. You admittedly have around $1500 in your 10 pt. You come acrost as that somehow or other has provided you w/ the ultimate Xbow. Not!! You do have all the bells and whistles available, if that's what you want fine!! Each one of them cost's Ka-chings!!!

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I think you finally hit it you are an ExCal guy for your own reasons Im a TenPoint Guy for my own reasons,,

You talk about Excals simplicity and Price and I talk about the Features of My TenPoint..
and just so you know to get the ExCal setup the way I wanted it with the bells and whistles it was going to cost me a little over $1200.00

and I will agree both are great crossbows couldent go wrong with either..

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and I have never said TenPoints were the only crossbow worth looking at.. I have never said ExCals or any other crossbow were not any good. heck if anyone were to ask me what I thought of an Excal directly or in a question on one of the forums I would tell them thay are a great crossbow because I believe they are..

where youns are getting that I am saying they are not worth looking at I dont know..

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How could you possibly come,up w/ a $1200 figure for any model Excal?? They do not have any such animal, and I'm calling "foul".

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well then you set the day and I will take you over to Effingham IL. to the proshop there and have them give you a total cost of the Emax with all the bells and whistles a hard case that will fit an ExCal is very pricy..ExCal dosent offer one so you have to loos at aftermarket ones.. they had the Emax priced at $679.00 at the time..and that was just the bow.. they were high on their prices but so are all the proshops around here..

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ok i will admitt yer 10 pt. can beat my Excal fer cost and has another safety. Let me tell all that 10 pt.'s are very good Bows! I wouldn't nor couldn't ever afford one, i think i have said that before. You still my friend htoler and you don't offend me or make me mad! Everyone knowed i be mentally challeged, but only way yer xbow could beat my xbow! Is to catch mine asleep and stringless hahahahahaha!:D:D:DI phsycally challenged also but you need that edge!hahaha! I be good very good and its possible i can out shoot you with my peep against yer scope setup![:o][:o][:o][:-][:-][:-][:-][:-]

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Very possible you could outshoot me smoke my crossbow is way more accurate than I will ever be.. I know I have a great Ceossbow and you have a great crossbow also I think they are right on par with one another ..so far as accuracy , both manufactures make great bows .. there are a lot of great TenPoints that cost way less than my ProElite I was fortunate and was able to buy the best model they offered.. but they offer a lot of other great crossbows as does ExCalibur..

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to start with they were asking $679.00 for the Emax itself they would not sell me the right stuff package said most of what was in it was junk ,, so aftermarket quiver Bohning I believe it was $69.00 crankaroo $139.00
varizone scope $119.00.. aftermarket hardcase $129.00 extra string and arrows they said would be around $100.00 come on up will take you over there..

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but in ExCAls defense I will say that I found the Emax a lot cheaper online and at the dealer where I got my TenPoint he said that they had the bow way overpriced and were high on some of the accessories.. but not all of them..

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I just priced out the Emax at Caballas the Emax with package $819 Crankaroo $129 thats what right at $950.00 withouth taxes and shipping..

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I feel like I'm back in public school again. Thanks guys!

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no problem Dnk but you better not be late for class again or no cookie for you..lol:)

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Ok but no spankings!

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Here are some prices E'max $515 scope $95 mounting bracket and rings $26 Hip Quiver $39 rope cocker $22 stringer $10 extra string $9 wax $3 dz. arrows $54 Good target $40. Just abit over $800 for the baddest Excal and ready to shoot anything in North America. Don't ya jus love it! I do! :D:D[8D][8D][8D][8D][8D][8D][8D][:o][:-][:-]