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RE: Mineral pits are deer magnets
Harm vs. Good,
Deer will go to where these minerals are. They need them. It may or may not spred any type of problems associated with baiting. I've yet to see 10 deer standing around the'ol salt lick, unlike the feed pile. They only go there when they need it not every morning and night after we put it out. If anyone was concerned about it and just wanted to see the animals get their one-a-days then scatter the pits around so that the animals can get the minerals without much contact between them. |
RE: Mineral pits are deer magnets
Lets potty train them to be safe.[X(]
Deer disease lingers in environment, study says Chronic wasting spread from pen, carcass after 2 years By JOHN FAUBER [email protected] Posted: May 6, 2004 New research showing that chronic wasting disease can be transmitted through soil and from decomposed carcasses of infected deer suggests that the effort to eradicate the disease in Wisconsin may be much more difficult than once thought. Chronic Wasting Disease Previously, research showed that the disease could be transmitted by animal-to-animal contact. Ever since the deadly brain disorder first appeared in Wisconsin in 2002, wildlife officials had feared that the infectious agent that causes the disease could linger in the environment. Now there is evidence showing that the disease can persist for at least two years. "This is an important piece, this study," said Julie Langenberg, a wildlife veterinarian with the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources. "It verifies a concern that we have had since we started working with chronic wasting disease." The study, which appears in the online edition of the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases, involved three types of experimental enclosures that were designed to simulate at least some of the conditions found in the wild. One set of paddocks housed mule deer that once had been infected with chronic wasting disease, but the areas had been kept empty for about two years. Residual excrement from the sick deer remained in the enclosures. In other types of paddocks, carcasses of infected deer had been allowed to decompose in place for nearly two years. The researchers then brought in mule deer that were believed to be disease-free and confined them to the enclosures. In both types of enclosures, one or more of the reintroduced healthy deer became infected within a year. In a third type of enclosure, infected deer were kept with uninfected deer. That too resulted in the spread of the disease. The authors of the study acknowledge that confining the deer to an area may have exaggerated the likelihood of transmission. However, "This kind of thing could happen in the wild," said co-author Beth Williams, the researcher who in 1977 first identified chronic wasting disease as an infectious brain illness in deer. The research reinforces the idea of prohibiting baiting and feeding in areas where the disease exists, Williams said. In addition, she said, the research also raises concerns about efforts to eradicate chronic wasting disease. "If all the deer are removed, there may be residual infectivity," she said. "It may be difficult to get rid of CWD." Still, Williams said she believes the effort by the Wisconsin DNR to eradicate the disease is worthwhile. Using hunters and sharpshooters, the DNR wants to kill as many deer in areas where animals have tested positive for the disease as possible, as well as create buffer zones around those areas. In the eradication zones surrounding hot spots where numerous chronic wasting disease cases have been found, the DNR hopes to reduce the deer population to fewer than five animals per square mile. In the larger intensive harvest zones, the goal is 10 to 15 deer per square mile. Judd Aiken, a professor of animal health and biomedical sciences at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said he believes that by reducing the number of infected animals in the wild, the state stands a better chance of someday eliminating the disease. The study is the best research to date showing how the disease can be spread in the environment, he said. What it does not show, he said, is what type of excrement carries the disease and how long the infectivity lasts in the environment. "I don't think I would conclude that it will be permanently in the environment," he said. Langenberg, of the DNR, said she believes the study reinforces the idea of quickly culling diseased animals from the herd. "I still think what the state is doing makes sense," she said. "We still have a chance to control and possibly eliminate the disease. We are making the choice to act and not wait." |
RE: Mineral pits are deer magnets
After reading it all. I still would rather the deer get their minerals on my 80 acres than Joe Blows place down the road.
good luck! |
RE: Mineral pits are deer magnets
I aggree with 3 step. I have seen a large difference in the quality of the deer siince I started the licks 2 years ago. We do not have a problem with CWD here in Missouri at this time. As for as baiting is concerned MDC does not consider mineral licks to be baiting and therefor I do not either. But I also do not hunt over them on a regular bases because I do not want the deer to be spooked or pushed away from them. I believe this would have the a negitive impact on what we are trying to do on this property.
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RE: Mineral pits are deer magnets
First, as for the baiting aspect of mineral pits. Unless the deer in a particular area are different than most, they normally only visit the pits during the off-season months.
Second, I doubt that all of the deer in a given area gather at a pit as though it was the only water hole for miles around. Third, the last time I noticed, the deer do not have individually assigned feeding and living areas anywhere in the natural or planted growth. Therefore, the CWD preventive aspect of not having artificial feeding areas to prevent a gathering seems, to me, to be nonsensical. I would suspect that an infected deer is going to mingle and deposit CWD spores throughout the area where all the deer living in a certain region tend to travel and mingle. |
RE: Mineral pits are deer magnets
For someone who always seems to have an open mind, why do you close it now?
Like I said. Just seems the people who don't have the problem in their backyard, don't see it as a problem. |
RE: Mineral pits are deer magnets
Too often, reacting to something based only on an "open mind" without having specific information is like shooting at something in complete darkness. You might hit your target or you might not.
As for CWD, show me the data that confirms that deer gather and mingle at an artificial feeding station more than they do at any other time, or that the CWD spores are found mostly as such stations. Ever see 30-40 deer gathered in a small clover field and feed together throughout the night? I have. What about when they harbor up during severe weather? I do not like artificial (mechanical) feeding stations, but not because of CWD. |
RE: Mineral pits are deer magnets
Well........I did the deed today. I created 2 licks today and intend to do one more. By the way, this in part of my pro-active plan to inhance the natural habitat of my 80 ac. I have fertilized several large white oaks and fence rows that are overgrown with honey suckle. I also planted a grove of 14 sawtooth oaks and put another 10 in various places on the place. I feel good about using the natural habitat instead of putting out feeders and food plots. And in case you are wondering, mineral licks are a natural occurance throughout the state of Louisiana.
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RE: Mineral pits are deer magnets
thank you c903. hopefully next weekend i will get to treat an area or two for the up-coming season.
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