Allegany County New York
 

I am brand new to this message board. I have read many of the posts and can tell that the contributors to this board are very dedicated, knowledgeable and hardcore.
I have a question that I'm hoping some of you New York hunters can help me out with. I am currently considering buying a parcel of land in Alleganey County. It is about 100+/- acres that are 2/3 wooded and 1/3 open meadow. The property looks very appealing but I have no experience hunting in that region of New york state. Are there many (any?) mature bucks in this county? Is the county overhunted? I know from the stats that this county produces a high number of deer but also there is quite a large "army" of hunters who pound the woods there shooting many, many 1-1/2 year old bucks. Does anybody know of any QDM efforts being looked at for this region of NY (similar to what PA is doing)? Any replies would be helpful........Thanks

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I have hunted Allegany county for 17 years and my family has been there over 40.


No.


YES.

Correct.........and that will not change any time soon.


Nope..........private landowners can always do whatever they want......or at least try to anyways but all the guys I know that own land say the deer they let walk just get shot by someone else.


How much is the land per acre if you don't mind telling me?

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Allegany can be a great place to hunt or it can be the pits.

There are plenty of deer around there...........in the right spots.

The areas with state land are hit mercilessly........and if your land is anywhere the state lands it will get trampled too.

There are nice places all over though that are far enough from the state lands that the orange army stays away mostly.

I know a guy that owns 13 acres there and he and his family take 4-5 deer EVERY year from the 3 treestands they have.

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My brother took this buck in Allegany county in 99 I think.

Best buck we have ever seen come out of the area we hunt.........by far.

His picture is still up on the wall of the check station if you are ever there.

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That is an interesting rack for sure. Lots of palmation.

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Hey Atlas----nice deer there.

Just curious, any idea what it would score?

I'm not too into the scoring thing myself but just as a reference I was wondering.

Cool mount too......is that black rope at the bases? Never thought of that or seen it before.

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Thanks for the information atlasman. The asking price is $966/acre. It was selectively logged about 4 years ago so there is no real timber value. The entire parcel has been surveyed and subdivided into 3 smaller parcels but if I make an offer on the land, it will be for the whole piece. It is surrounded by other privately held property. The seller retains the oil and mineral rights. Can you tell me, is this amount high for that area? If so, by a lot? About how much has undeveloped land appreciated in value in the last 10 years? Beautiful country down there.......

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You're asking the wrong guy man.


That is black ropes at the bases..........looks nice.

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Atlas, there are check stations in NY? :eek:

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NO!!!!

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Wow, is that cheap!

I have looked at similar property in IN, MI and OH, and I have seen nothing near that price. (2k/acre is the lowest I have seen, and most of that is very wet/swampy). It wasn't too long ago that you could buy land at that 1k price in the northern IN/southern MI area but in the last few years land of that price has skyrocketed. I guess what I am saying is that I bet you can't go wrong buying it at that price.

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Hey Atlas----why am I asking the wrong guy? Did no one give an estimate or did I touch on something here?

Just wondering--feel like I am missing something.

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Thanks to everybody for their input. If I do buy any land down that way I'll be sure to be a good neighbor. It's the same here in Vermont. If you're considerate of posted property and ask for permission to hunt, unless the owner has an army of hunters hunting the land already, you'll most likely be given permission. Most landowners just want to know who is on their property.

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I've hunted Allegany county for many years. It has great potential (state's record typical and non-typical both come from this county). However, the older deer are few and far between. I've seen a few monsters taken, but considering the number of deer taken each year, it's darn few. 99.9% of hunters in this area, shoot first and ask questions later.

Land prices can be fairly cheap. That's because it's one of the more depressed areas of the state. Low population and very few jobs. The price you were quoted seems inline with other prices I've seen. An awful lot depends on the individual piece of land. It is a beautiful area and if you don't mind having nothing but juvenile bucks to shoot at, you'll probably love it there.

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There are big bucks in the area. I have a piece of land in Alleghany. Sheds have been found in the 130 class. But finding big bucks after hunting season starts is the problem. these bucks are very educated. If you buy enough land and can successfully keep people off your land (easier said then done), you should run into some big bucks. Another problem is that there is so much wooded area in the area that finding travel routes is very difficult. A lot of scouting is needed. 1k per acre actually sounds a little expensive to me for the area.

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A think there are a couple:

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Yes there are but they are voluntary and used to check age weight etc,not to report overall kills.