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RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr 3 bucks 401 inches. Didn't think I was gonna say that did ya:D So I guess we are equal hunters after all ;) |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Why did you point out that I shot it with a gun then?........there is no other reason then to try and lesson his status because in your mind if it wasn't taken with a bow it means less. Here is something for ya. I have taken over 400 inches of antlers in the last 3 years. How about you?? |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr Because this is the BOWHUNTING forum. Not the atlas shotgun forum. Also I thought you only ever scored 1 of your bucks????????:D |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Like my dad always told me, "Never get into a pi$$ing contest with a skunk."
Here's a thought, since this has become an obvious one-on-one argument, why don't you guys just send emails back and forth to each other. That way you can tell each other what you really think and you don't have to censor your thoughts. I can speak for myself and maybe others on this board when I say grow up. [&:] |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Jimbo.
I don't want to call Atlas anything. I actually like Atlas and bowfanatic. Just becuase we may not see eye to eye on a few things don't mean anything about him as a person or sportsman. I believe atlas is probably one of the most honest game law abiding members on the board. And I give him alot of respect for that. I enjoy a good debate and atlas and bowfanatic do as well. So it would seem anyhow. Once again I have nothing against either one of them. I am sure they are fine individuals and great sportsman. |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
I never said who the skunk was! LOL (just kidding!)
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RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr Jimbo. I don't want to call Atlas anything. I actually like Atlas and bowfanatic. Just becuase we may not see eye to eye on a few things don't mean anything about him as a person or sportsman. I believe atlas is probably one of the most honest game law abiding members on the board. And I give him alot of respect for that. I enjoy a good debate and atlas and bowfanatic do as well. So it would seem anyhow. Once again I have nothing against either one of them. I am sure they are fine individuals and great sportsman. I guess people see different things when they read their screens. I have ABSOLUTELY nothing against Buckeye or any other hunter on these boards that hunts legally and ethically. Just because 2 people don't agree on something doesn't mean they personally dislike each other Jimbo. I have no reason to send Buckeye any private messages because I have no censored comments for him........he is cool in my book and welcome around my campfire any day. Why do people assume disagreement=dislike?? |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
No matter whom you were referring to as the skunk I wanted my position known as what my honest opinion was of atlas and bowfanatic as well.
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RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr No matter whom you were referring to as the skunk I wanted my position known as what my honest opinion was of atlas and bowfanatic as well. |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Bowfanatic, I'm not trying to be anal here, but the true definition of a yearling is a deer between 1 and 2 years old. Fawns are fawns, yearlings are yearlings: deer between 1 and 2 years old. Is it really important (?), I don't know, but if you are talking about QDM, deer management or anything else to do with deer and deer hunting, it helps to use the proper terms to accurately identify deer. That way, when someone says yearling, we know what age you are talking about. It also gives you more credibility to know what you are talking about when throwing around terms. Please don't take this the wrong way, it's not a slam, and I'm not picking on you or anyone else, but there is a true definition of yearling, it's not a matter of regional terminology like the 4 point vs. 8 point example. Does it take away from my credibility when I call a button buck a yearling? Not around here pal! Think about it ...a yearling? A deer in it's first year of life.:eek: I really dont care what anyone calls them wherever your from , makes no difference , but dont tell me it's not a regional thing.;) Is anyone still trying to say a 1 1/2 year old buck is easier to kill than a button buck? |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Iv'e never known anyone in WI to call a fawn a yearling. A 1.5 year old is a yearling. Anyway, like I stated before, you just can't get a reasonable answer unless hunting conditions are exactly the same for every deer everywhere. Buckeye, I am also a big QDM supporter, but I must agree with atlas that many of the threads and responses you post somehow lessens the credibility of other hunters. I am sure you are a fine hunter, along with that title though comes the responsibility to respect other hunting bretheren and their accomplishments. IMO.:)
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RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Is anyone still trying to say a 1 1/2 year old buck is easier to kill than a button buck? Yes, because 95% of the time that button buck is with it's mother and other fawns. The mother is normally very protective and aware when trying to teach its youngsters and you have at least 3 sets of eyes to try to fool. Even when I have no intention of shooting at them I get busted by a mature doe with her fawns much more often than a 1 1/2 yr old buck. Matter of fact I can't remember the last time I have been busted by a 1 1/2 yr old buck, it has been years. Also in my main hunting area in Southern Ohio we see more 1 1/2 yr old bucks than does, some days 2 or 3 times as many young bucks. Also all these statements about trophy hunters trying to make it easier for them to kill big bucks is ridiculous. We don't even live in the same area, how could you help me by passing on the young bucks? We are all simply stating our opinions and I agree that it is OK to disagree. So how many of you that think the yearling fawn is the easiest to kill actually shoot them? Atlasman said he is after the first legal deer that he has a tag for, does that include these yearlings that are so easy to kill? Just curious. |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Is anyone still trying to say a 1 1/2 year old buck is easier to kill than a button buck |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Just because 2 people don't agree on something doesn't mean they personally dislike each other Jimbo. Why do people assume disagreement=dislike?? |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Think about it ...a yearling? A deer in it's first year of life. I really dont care what anyone calls them wherever your from , makes no difference , but dont tell me it's not a regional thing. They all taste good. :D |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
ORIGINAL: Blodg So how many of you that think the yearling fawn is the easiest to kill actually shoot them? Atlasman said he is after the first legal deer that he has a tag for, does that include these yearlings that are so easy to kill? Just curious. The doe I shot with my gun with my gun opening day was 6 months old.........and she was sniffing the 1 1/2 year old buck I shot 25 minutes earlier ;) If I have a tag for it..........it's a shooter. I shot the first buck that offered me a chance in archery (6 pt) I shot the first buck I saw with gun (4 pt) I shot the first and second does I saw with gun Every legal chance I have had to take a deer this year I have done so. I could have taken more but in some cases I had no tags left :( |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Is anyone still trying to say a 1 1/2 year old buck is easier to kill than a button buck? Yes, because 95% of the time that button buck is with it's mother and other fawns. The mother is normally very protective and aware when trying to teach its youngsters and you have at least 3 sets of eyes to try to fool. The button buck is always walking away from mom and meandering through the woods before she even gets up and after she beds down. I highly doubt thats a regional thing. NJ_Bowhntr I stand corrected. Maybe it's just my little cirle of the world that has refered to a fawn as a yearling as long as I can remember. mammasboy , eventually you will. Try and get out a little more.;) This discussion seems pretty useless anyway. |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
NJ_Bowhntr I stand corrected. Maybe it's just my little cirle of the world that has refered to a fawn as a yearling as long as I can remember Where do you live in Packer Country? I lived in Green Bay and Sturgeon Bay for a while. Nice country up there. |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Where do you live in Packer Country? I lived in Green Bay and Sturgeon Bay for a while. Nice country up there. |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
OK I will take a step back and say......
A motherless fawn is on the same plane as a yearling buck in terms of ease of harvest, perhaps more so [X(] |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
I would say the 1/2 year olds, buck or doe. I've jumped many going to and from my stand and more often than not they come back my direction to see what I am.
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RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
It's funny when we get threads like these because it just goes to show that WHERE you hunt has a lot to do with how you view hunting in general.
I am not saying 1 1/2 year old bucks aren't easy to kill around here just to argue with someone........They really aren't........not where I hunt anyways. If they were I would agree 100% I'm sure in places where guys lay off the smaller bucks and they aren't running for their life 24/7 it may be different.....I just don't hunt in places like that so all I can offer is my personal experience and opinion. On to my point about land. I hunted a small farm this year with my bow and saw MANY deer. No wall hangers but that is not something I lose sleep over. I was thrilled with the deer numbers and sightings at first and then I killed a 6 pt and saw 4 more bucks 2 days after that (3 I could have killed)........during that day on my stand I actually thought to myself that "This is too easy" I hunted much of the remainder of the archery season on state lands and saw NOTHING. Not one deer and I hunted the entire rut in a couple different areas. I did see another buck I could have killed but it was on a private farm that lets the DEC give controlled hunting access. So, public battlefields I saw NOTHING with my bow.......private farms I saw many deer and plenty of bucks one of which I killed. Now if you were to ask me about deer hunting in NY what should I say??? The private farm I hunted was the polar opposite of the state forests. Someone could live right next door to me and have an exact opposite opinion about hunting in my area as I do.........and we would both be right. It's all perspective. I would tell anyone that gained access to the farm I was at that they should see a lot of deer and have a good chance to kill one with their bow........most likely more then one.....and with a gun it is just slam dunk city........only way you come home empty handed is if you forget your gun. That same person heading out to the state war zones I would offer two kind words. GOOD LUCK |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Where I hunt, we have shot opportunities(bow) on lots of 1.5 year old bucks but not as many on the other deer. They seem to be the most curious during the 3 stages of the rut than the other deer.
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RE: You opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
1 1/2 year old buck. the fawns usually have does with them. even if momma dies, they'll join another group. i've grunted in several 1 1/2 year old bucks, most of them off a field they were feeding in. i grunted to a buck once and pulled him in to 15 yards, but it was too dark. i missed him later in the season one morning and that was teh only arrow i was carrying. i grunted just to get a reaction from him and he came marching back in at 10 yards. i was on the ground too, sitting on a log. and this was after i sent an arrow skimming over his back. couldnt have had too much up there in the smarts category. he fell for teh grunting twice more druing the sesaon, but i never killed him.
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RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
[quote]ORIGINAL: BOWFANATIC
mammasboy , eventually you will. Try and get out a little more.;) Flattery will get you nowhere!:D |
RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
I have thought about this question for awhile and have a different answer than most. The easiest deer to kill in my area is any deer that crosses a trail over a deep woods creek. Even mature deer are totally distracted within 5 yards either side of the creek then are extremely susceptible when they take that momentary walk or short leap over the gurgling water. The dense woods make them feel very secure in the first place. Set up overlooking a deep woods creek crossing and you may never hunt anywhere else again.
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RE: You opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Any yearling deer.........whether it be doe or buck.
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RE: You opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
I have said many times that I believe the yearling (1 1/2 years old) buck is the most foolish deer in the herd. |
RE: You opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Any yearling buck or doe.
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RE: Your opinion on the easiest killed deer in the woods.
Yeah hard to say, a button buck or 1 1/2 year old buck seem to be the easiest to have in range. They seem to travel alone more often and have less eyes watching as a herd of does can be the most weary.
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