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t roy 12-09-2004 12:53 PM

3 years 3 young bucks
 
driving out to the farm this morning and there's a young 8 pt buck laying dead in the ditch with an arrow sticking out of his gut. i mean 5 feet from the road. this is the third young buck that i have found in the last three years that was hit with an arrow and obviously not recovered by the hunter. shot placement on two (including todays find) was terrible both in the gut behind the lungs. the other i found 2 yrs ago had been devoured by coyotes and the only thing left was his head, bones and the broadhead that did him in.
i've got alot of problems with this situation and it really pi$$es me off. first off all three would score under 120 and i live in illinois so whats the point in taking these deer. second, one of the bucks was found about 200 yrds from the stand i believe he was shot out of, why the hell aren't these guys trying just a little bit harder to recover their deer? and third like i said before 2 if not all 3 were terrible shots way outside the vitals area, the buck this morning was facing (1/8 turned) whoever shot him because the arrow enters just about where the lungs end and it angles into the gut.
all i can say is anyone out there who hunts this sloppily, GIVE IT UP!!

Rob/PA Bowyer 12-09-2004 12:59 PM

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I know your just venting but why post this here for the world to read about sloppy bowhunters....? Your preaching to the chior. In every aspect of life, there are those who don't belong but publically posting it here isn't going to help your situation but it does blacken the eye of bowhunters as a whole pending on who uses the information.

t roy 12-09-2004 01:11 PM

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so i should just pretend it didnt happen?

silentassassin 12-09-2004 01:22 PM

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so i should just pretend it didnt happen?
he didn't say that you should pretend it didn't happen. But one has to wonder what is going to ultimately be accomplished by publishing it here. I have been a long time advocate of not posting these type of threads because of the "propaganda" value they could have in the anti's hands. This kind of thing just gives them ammunition. When they start looking for these type of stories to use for their own efforts it just gives it even more credibility when it comes from the hunters themselves. Although, we know the whole story, that most hunters are responsible and don't do these kind of things, they aren't going to make use of the things that are posted on this site that don't help their case. That was his point. Not that you should pretend it didn't happen just what are solving by posting it here.

Bird Hunt Dog 12-09-2004 01:28 PM

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I would like to see the "I wounded one" post gone also!

t roy 12-09-2004 01:42 PM

RE: 3 years 3 young bucks
 

ORIGINAL: silentassassin


so i should just pretend it didnt happen?
he didn't say that you should pretend it didn't happen. But one has to wonder what is going to ultimately be accomplished by publishing it here. I have been a long time advocate of not posting these type of threads because of the "propaganda" value they could have in the anti's hands. This kind of thing just gives them ammunition. When they start looking for these type of stories to use for their own efforts it just gives it even more credibility when it comes from the hunters themselves. Although, we know the whole story, that most hunters are responsible and don't do these kind of things, they aren't going to make use of the things that are posted on this site that don't help their case. That was his point. Not that you should pretend it didn't happen just what are solving by posting it here.
yeah i understood his response. i've seen a lot of things in my life that i didnt care for and the only way to change those things is to bring them to attention, not sweep them under the rug. slob hunters hurt all of us and hopefully someone will keep this in mind the next time they decide to take a poor shot or decide to give up tracking that deer, etc etc etc

m.t.hands 12-09-2004 01:45 PM

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one of the bucks was found about 200 yrds from the stand i believe he was shot out of,
if its on your property looks like it would be very easy to take care of, if its a farm that your hunting with other people, what kind of people are you hunting with?, the reason i ask is that i won't hunt with just anybody, if your trying to trophy hunt everybody needs to be on the same page. if your hunting buddies are going to bowhunt they need to be proficiant (sp) with the bow.
i hunt 3 tracts of property her in bama, one you can kill whatever you want within legal aspects, another place i hunt we have imposed an 8pt16" rule on and the people that hunt this abide or there out, the third place has a 6pt rule, and more does than you want. anyway back to your original post, to me it sound like whoever is doing this is not the same caliber hunter you are and the parties involved need to have a talk. and come to some kind of understanding, best of luck..

t roy 12-09-2004 02:20 PM

RE: 3 years 3 young bucks
 
their not being shot on our property, 1 was just on our side of the fence and another was near our property laying in the ditch. i practice QDM and ask the same of friends that hunt with me during firearms season, i'm the only one who bowhunts our property.

extreme1 12-09-2004 02:25 PM

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driving out to the farm this morning and there's a young 8 pt buck laying dead in the ditch with an arrow sticking out of his gut
Unless there are alot of hunters who use this farm for hunting purposes,you should be able to narrow down to who is doing the shooting.These un-ethical hunters should be taken care of immediately and in person,not on the"World Wide Web"

o2bebowhunting 12-09-2004 02:27 PM

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just because you would not shoot a 120" buck, does not mean another hunter would wouldnt. as far as recovering the deer, unforseen circumstances may have prevented a quick recovery.

m.t.hands 12-09-2004 02:29 PM

RE: 3 years 3 young bucks
 
thats to bad[&o], with the potential of the area your in why would someone even shoot that size deer, and people here complain about not killing any good deer, you got to pass on some of the 1-2 year olds if you ever expect to kill decent deer, just dosen't make sense to me. its to bad some people don't have a little more self-control, or at least learn to shoot straight, and only take shots that are decent. i hope you get some satisfaction, but i don't know how with that kind of people hunting around you[:@]

best of luck

nubo 12-09-2004 08:20 PM

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None of us like to see this type of behaviour from our comrad's in the bush ,but we all know that this does happen .If this is happening near your property then maybe you should be taking this issue up with the property owner and the hunter's that he has using his property .Since you don't know who did it ,maybe the owner will and if you bring it to light with him ,then maybe this problem will go away.You need to speak with the owner of the property.We all understand just how frusturating this is for you and if we could help ,we would. This is why this isn't the place for this issue.

nubo

atlasman 12-09-2004 08:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: t roy

first off all three would score under 120 and i live in illinois so whats the point in taking these deer.

Believe it or not there are actually hunters out there that don't give a frog's fat one what a deer "scores"...........and even weirder is that when you take the skin off of them and cook the meat it really tastes pretty good.


;)

MOTOWNHONKEY 12-09-2004 08:54 PM

RE: 3 years 3 young bucks
 
No kidding T rex. You need to get a grip on something besides your chicken. I never saw a hunter yet that wanted to lose a deer. It happens. A bad shot will happen. At any rate nothing goes to waste in nature, lost deer will be devoured by other hungry preditors. I,ve lost 2 deer in the last 14 years and I can tell you it still makes me sick to think of it. I,m sure the hunters in your post feel the same way.

atlasman 12-09-2004 09:49 PM

RE: 3 years 3 young bucks
 

ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

No kidding T rex. You need to get a grip on something besides your chicken.

That may be the funniest thing I have ever read online.......I am in tears.

RTA47 12-10-2004 08:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

No kidding T rex. You need to get a grip on something besides your chicken.

That may be the funniest thing I have ever read online.......I am in tears.
I with you on that atlasman! (LMAO):D:D

t roy 12-10-2004 02:37 PM

RE: 3 years 3 young bucks
 

ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

No kidding T rex. You need to get a grip on something besides your chicken. I never saw a hunter yet that wanted to lose a deer. It happens. A bad shot will happen. At any rate nothing goes to waste in nature, lost deer will be devoured by other hungry preditors. I,ve lost 2 deer in the last 14 years and I can tell you it still makes me sick to think of it. I,m sure the hunters in your post feel the same way.
hey John Doe how bout a nice big cup of shut the f......, ahh forget it.

yeah bad shots happen, but this is becoming a regular occurance. its good that it bothers you when you lose one, as it should, some guys couldn't care less.

i talked to my uncle who lives on the property and sd he ddnt know of anyone who lost one in the area. he did say they found a few headless deer dumped in a ditch a few miles away. sons a bit****.

nubo 12-10-2004 06:37 PM

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T roy!

I agree that this behaviour is a disgrace ,but as other's say it does happen .It seem's it happen's near you alot and that must mean that there is someone who hunt's there that's not a very responsible person.Maybe your uncle doesn't know of anyone losing a deer for the simple reason is that they're not telling him about it .Sound's as though we have a individual who doesn't take bowhunting serious and doesn't like the work that may come with it .His lack of effort show's that they're irrisponsable and they don't deserve to be in the wood's with the rest of us.

nubo

MOTOWNHONKEY 12-11-2004 02:10 PM

RE: 3 years 3 young bucks
 
Man that,s a nasty little temper you have there T Rex! And your vocabulary is outstanding. You might want to get into a 12 step program for anger management. Better yet just take some of your own advice.


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