examples of ELITISM
#61
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35 years ago I thought bow hunting was much more difficult than gun hunting, even though I took many animals with my recurve. I now think bowhunting is easier in most respects. I pass up numerous opportunities at very close ranges each year with a bow. Also, without question I see more large bucks during bow season than I ever did during gun season.
Advantages of bowhunting:
1) There are more deer (haven't been shot yet).
2) They are not spooked.
3) The rut occurs during bow season (at least in New York)
4) Fewer hunters
5) More huntable areas (can hunt closer to houses because you don't bother anyone)
6) Weather is better so I can stay on the stand longer.
7) Much longer season.
8) More daylight hours to hunt.
9) If you take a shot and miss, the animal is more likely to stick around or be back again in a day or two.
Advantages of gun hunting:
1) Can shoot at longer ranges ( in New York - shotgun only- that distance is extended by about 50 yards.)
2) still thinking.....
In any given situation the bowkill could have very easy or difficult. The same holds true for a gunkill. I know people want to feel good about be a great hunter and all, but bowhunting today just isn't that difficult.
Advantages of bowhunting:
1) There are more deer (haven't been shot yet).
2) They are not spooked.
3) The rut occurs during bow season (at least in New York)
4) Fewer hunters
5) More huntable areas (can hunt closer to houses because you don't bother anyone)
6) Weather is better so I can stay on the stand longer.
7) Much longer season.
8) More daylight hours to hunt.
9) If you take a shot and miss, the animal is more likely to stick around or be back again in a day or two.
Advantages of gun hunting:
1) Can shoot at longer ranges ( in New York - shotgun only- that distance is extended by about 50 yards.)
2) still thinking.....
In any given situation the bowkill could have very easy or difficult. The same holds true for a gunkill. I know people want to feel good about be a great hunter and all, but bowhunting today just isn't that difficult.
#62
ORIGINAL: Straightarrow
35 years ago I thought bow hunting was much more difficult than gun hunting, even though I took many animals with my recurve. I now think bowhunting is easier in most respects. I pass up numerous opportunities at very close ranges each year with a bow. Also, without question I see more large bucks during bow season than I ever did during gun season.
Advantages of bowhunting:
1) There are more deer (haven't been shot yet).
2) They are not spooked.
3) The rut occurs during bow season (at least in New York)
4) Fewer hunters
5) More huntable areas (can hunt closer to houses because you don't bother anyone)
6) Weather is better so I can stay on the stand longer.
7) Much longer season.
8) More daylight hours to hunt.
9) If you take a shot and miss, the animal is more likely to stick around or be back again in a day or two.
Advantages of gun hunting:
1) Can shoot at longer ranges ( in New York - shotgun only- that distance is extended by about 50 yards.)
2) still thinking.....
In any given situation the bowkill could have very easy or difficult. The same holds true for a gunkill. I know people want to feel good about be a great hunter and all, but bowhunting today just isn't that difficult.
35 years ago I thought bow hunting was much more difficult than gun hunting, even though I took many animals with my recurve. I now think bowhunting is easier in most respects. I pass up numerous opportunities at very close ranges each year with a bow. Also, without question I see more large bucks during bow season than I ever did during gun season.
Advantages of bowhunting:
1) There are more deer (haven't been shot yet).
2) They are not spooked.
3) The rut occurs during bow season (at least in New York)
4) Fewer hunters
5) More huntable areas (can hunt closer to houses because you don't bother anyone)
6) Weather is better so I can stay on the stand longer.
7) Much longer season.
8) More daylight hours to hunt.
9) If you take a shot and miss, the animal is more likely to stick around or be back again in a day or two.
Advantages of gun hunting:
1) Can shoot at longer ranges ( in New York - shotgun only- that distance is extended by about 50 yards.)
2) still thinking.....
In any given situation the bowkill could have very easy or difficult. The same holds true for a gunkill. I know people want to feel good about be a great hunter and all, but bowhunting today just isn't that difficult.
Yes, if you thinking of bow hunting only think twice. I completely hate it out there that time of the year and just wonder why I gave up gun hunting all together.
#63
Nontypical Buck
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From: Wisconsin
Therefore I pass a lot of deer waiting on a bigger buck etc. I am assuming from your post that you do not do this.
For everyone that has aspirations of killing a big buck then part of the reason that we hunt is for the challenge becasue if not we again would be shooting everything that walked by rather than waiting for a big one because if it wasn't more challenging or more rewarding, on a personal level, for us to kill a big buck, then there wouldn't be any more significance in killing a big buck then there would be in killing a fork horn.
If you had a 150 class buck and a fork horn standing there, which would you shoot and why?
Who wouldn't?
#64
Giant Nontypical
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I know people want to feel good about be a great hunter and all, but bowhunting today just isn't that difficult.
#66
ORIGINAL: justhuntitall
What a bunch of old women! Go hunt have fun screw every body that dosent like the way you hunt.
What a bunch of old women! Go hunt have fun screw every body that dosent like the way you hunt.
#67
Nontypical Buck
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From: Memphis TN USA
Not necessarily a challenge , but rewarding YES! The big buck (trophy) thing is also a primal instincts trait or whatever you want to call it (testosterone?). It's our nature to be competetive against one another which is what I consider the trophy buck syndrome to be , competitiveness. We all have it. If I go out and kill the biggest sabre tooth tiger then I can pound my chest and have any woman of the tribe I want. I'm not setting out to do it for a challenge , I'm setting out to do it for bragging rights.
Straightarrow,
I hear the reasons you listed but all that tells me is that it may be easier to see deer during bow season. But, that's the whole point is that you can see 50 big ones within 50 yards before you ever get a shot bowhunting where you would have gotten a shot at everyone gun hunting. How does your resume read when it comes to big deer? How many and how big with a gun and how many and how big with a bow?
#68
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Bowhunting today can still be as difficult and challenging as it was 35 years ago, or even 50,000 years ago.
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How does your resume read when it comes to big deer? How many and how big with a gun and how many and how big with a bow?
I've never even seen a mature buck while gun hunting, though I admit it's been 10 years since I've done a lot of gun hunting. During bow season, I at least see one every couple years. In fact, this year I missed a 150 class buck (hit a twig). This deer was relaxed, making a scrape 20 yards away. That would never happen during gun season. I would never even see him during gun season. He'd be hiding during the day and would probably be completely nocturnal. If you don't get the big ones, by 8:00 am opening day, you probably won't. It's a war zone around here and the older bucks know it.
During bow season, I not only see a lot more bucks (10 times as many wouldn't be an exageration), and they are not scared. They come closer and do not spooked as easily. It's fairly easy to grunt one in, or rattle one up - something the you absolutely will not be able to do here during gun season.
Yes, bowhunting with all the modern stuff we use, is much easier in my opinion.
#69
Joined: Sep 2004
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This is incredible- you think there may be a few opinions on this!!
What the hey, if it's legal- to each his own. I'm personally a bowhunter for 30 years and respect hunters as a whole. But- No idiots allowed!!
What the hey, if it's legal- to each his own. I'm personally a bowhunter for 30 years and respect hunters as a whole. But- No idiots allowed!!


