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Charlie P 11-23-2004 04:46 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
On another thread I stated that if you were hunting huge acerage with out much pressure that the deer wouldn't be a leery even bigger bucks and you told me I didn't know what I was talking about.

Let's say I have 10,000 acres high fenced that I manage for QDM. Myself and 5 other guys hunt this property and we are on it in the off season putting in food plots and loading the feeders frequently. Do feel that this would actully condition the older deer not to be leery of humans. You would have to admit that is very light hunting pressure and a deer could be a few years old before it see's a human. They would grow acccustomed to smelling man with out alot of danger. You bringing them their food.That's no reason to fear you.

Come hunting season they hear a few shots and then it's over for another season. Once again many of these deer are never put in a predator prey situation. No reason for big bucks to become nocturnal,right
?


One of your reply's


Old mature deer are wild animals, it makes no difference if they live on heavily hunted land or land that recieves very little hunting. Deer are not going to lose there fear of humans just because they arent shot at every time they stick there head out of the brush. Deer ( along with all wild animals) have evolved to fear humans.
So are you saying that an old mature deer would have to smell your scent and see you to fear a human. If they aren't worried about human scent why not the deer I hunt will react to your scent especially if the get a whiff around their core area.

I don't hunt public land all priviate. Just got a nice lease this season with some friends.

Charlie P 11-23-2004 04:51 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
What would you call an animal that depends on humans for food and starts to identify humans as a food source. Looses it's fear of human scent and in som cases the sight of humans. I call that animal domesticated.

IL-Cornfed 11-23-2004 04:56 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
I just want to know how in the world does he snag a BIG sponsor like Chevy trucks??? [&:]

MOTOWNHONKEY 11-23-2004 05:07 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
The guy is a total jackass. Did you see that doe? He,s got a big smile on his face when he ought to be ashamed. I bet he had some serious doe fever when that brusier walked up. What a joke!

Huntnsinme 11-23-2004 06:14 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLL
You guys are killing me.......hahaha

Bionicrooster 11-23-2004 06:40 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
TXHigh Rack, I am curious, having never hunted Texas, do you still feel like its a challenge to shoot deer that do not think of humans as danger? I mean, is there a thrill in it or is it more like "harvesting" a steer for butcher. I hunt both public and private and in both places, even the ones that get very little hunting pressure, the deer are VERY cautious when it comes to people. But to me this is the best part of the challenge.

TXhighrack 11-23-2004 08:17 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 

do you still feel like its a challenge to shoot deer that do not think of humans as danger?
Look its very simple. The deer are not "tame" or "domesticated". If they see you, there going to run. If they see your truck, there going to run. If a deer catches your wind, they might look in the direction of the scent but if they dont see anything (you) then they usually continue with there bussiness.

TXhighrack 11-23-2004 08:20 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
MOTOWNHONKEY:

Hey arent you the guy who just got banned from Bowsite.com? I guess your coming to this site to start the same crap over here? Mod's you might want to watch this guy at the other site they were recording his IP (whatever #) because of the things he did and said over there.

JimboHunter1 11-23-2004 08:28 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 

If a deer catches your wind, they might look in the direction of the scent but if they dont see anything (you) then they usually continue with there bussiness.
TXhighrack- I read your post and I want to make it clear that I have hunted private land my entire life. When a wild deer "catches your wind", they haul @ss and ask questions later. If you claim that the deer you hunt will lower their guard after smelling you as long as they don't also see you, then I have to agree with Charlie on this thread... they're not wild. Deer rely on their noses MUCH more than their eyesight when they protect themselves from predators. Your deer don't view you (or your smell) as a threat, therefore, they've become domsticated.

TXhighrack 11-23-2004 08:51 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
Jimbo.

How can a deer on several thousand acres become "domesticated" when they have never been "handled" or had any human contact? Filling some feeders every couple of months and sprinkling corn by hand once in a while would not quailfy as human contact.

It really dosent matter if you hunt private land or not. What does matter is how big that land is, how many neighbors you have, how many guys hunt around you, and if there is any highways or houses near the area you hunt. If so, then the deer in your area view humans as a greater danger then the deer in other areas.


Your deer don't view you (or your smell) as a threat, therefore, they've become domsticated.

They do view humans as a danger, just not always our smell. It still cracks me up that you think a wild deer that lives on countless untouched acres has become "domesticated" just because he dosent **** himself everytime he catches some human scent.


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