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Charlie P 11-19-2004 11:30 AM

Keith Warren
 
I was just checking out his show. Don't think this guy could shoot a wild deer if his life depended on it.

He's hunting some high fenced place in Texas,Hidden Springs Ranch,and telling everyone how inportant scent control is. Then he gets dropped off at his stand in a truck literally at his stand. The place has a 10-1 Buck to Doe ratio. That's 10 buck to a doe.

Now he just wiped something on the fletching of his bolt, don't know if it was scent or what, he's using a crossbow.

Anyone seen the video he advertises?

Charlie P 11-19-2004 11:36 AM

RE: Keith Warren
 
http://www.bowhunting.net/Hunts/Keit...eithWarren.htm

Here's apicture of old Keith getting dropped off at his stand.Click on the link.

Actually that's not Keith getting dropped off, but it's about the same thing they showed on the show different truck dropped him off.

BigLouie 11-19-2004 11:41 AM

RE: Keith Warren
 
The area looks like it was just freshly mowed too. Lol. That place looks like a park!

cardeer 11-19-2004 12:33 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
He is a real winner

RTA47 11-19-2004 01:09 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
Every time that show comes on! I turn the channel[&:]

Bird Hunt Dog 11-19-2004 01:17 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
That was just on at Noon today. He was saying the first thing you should do when you get in your stand is to put some deer scent on your fletch and shoot at something on the ground. I don't think I want to be makeing all that racket in my stand!!!

ruffhunter 11-19-2004 02:27 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
It was wildlife Research Moon Fire scent. He is about my least favorite show. It is completely full of promotions and pushing products! I don't care for his hunts either. I would like to see him hunt a non-ranch or fenced game.

antlergetter 11-19-2004 02:35 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
poor little rich boy!! Hate to see him in a REAL hunting situation

WVBowhunter10 11-19-2004 03:27 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
I know people where I grew up that were just like him. They hunted their fenced in property where they raised there own deer. Just drive to stand, sit down and pick from whichever of the raised deer that scored 140 or so. If you ask me that is real hunting.[:'(] They should be out in the woods with some of us.

deerhuntr33 11-19-2004 03:29 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
he's what we call down here in the south,a waterhead retard..LMAO

Charlie P 11-19-2004 04:27 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 

He was saying the first thing you should do when you get in your stand is to put some deer scent on your fletch and shoot at something on the ground
That's what he did ? LOL What a idiot.Guess he didn't have time to do it after walking the 20 yards after he got out of the truck.

kodiak41226 11-19-2004 04:49 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 

ORIGINAL: Charlie P
He's hunting some high fenced place in Texas,Hidden Springs Ranch,and telling everyone how inportant scent control is. Then he gets dropped off at his stand in a truck literally at his stand. The place has a 10-1 Buck to Doe ratio. That's 10 buck to a doe.
LMFAO, He's hunting a fenced ranch with that Buck ratio and he's pictured shooting the smallest doe in history.

TXhighrack 11-19-2004 08:36 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
Driving a truck to the stand has little to no effect on the deer. Most the time I will walk around with a 50# pound of corn and sprinkle it out just before I climb up to my stand. I know my scent is all over the corn and the ground where its laying, but the deer still come out and nibble on it.

nubo 11-20-2004 06:44 AM

RE: Keith Warren
 
You call that a deer ,I don't care to watch show's of hunter's hunting deer farm's .These guy's have the nerve to call themselves professional's LOL. My 7 year old could hunt there and score . And he's hunting with a crossbow at that.LMAO

nubo

Charlie P 11-23-2004 06:54 AM

RE: Keith Warren
 

know my scent is all over the corn and the ground where its laying, but the deer still come out and nibble on it.
They must be used to human contact then I thouight you said the deer on your ranches were wild.
From another thread.

It just seems like the deer down here dont associate the smell of humans with danger, as long as they dont see you then you should be fine.
Sounds you've domesticated your deer herd sorta like cattle.

shed33 11-23-2004 11:41 AM

RE: Keith Warren
 
I honestly had to quit watching the outdoor channel for the most part. For me there is nothing satisfying in watching someone kill some monster buck or bull that demonstrates the behavior of a domesticated animal.

The public land animals I hunt would all be dead if they were as uneducated and tolerant as some of the animals I see on hunting shows.

comndr45 11-23-2004 12:48 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
I watched him go to some game farm where he sat in a house, yes house, and then proceeded to miss a nice deer 3 times with a scoped rifle. They went out the next day, and the scope was right on. At least he had the balls to admit he just missed instead of blaming equipment or something. It was a pathetic sight though. Nothing resembling hunting.

TXhighrack 11-23-2004 02:11 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
Charlie P:


They must be used to human contact then I thouight you said the deer on your ranches were wild.
They are wild animals. But they dont associate human scent with danger, mainly because they dont have every bubba walking around trying to kill them. As long as the deer dont see you move, then your alright most of the time.


Sounds you've domesticated your deer herd sorta like cattle
If allowing deer to mature, and not killing everything that moves is your defintion of "domesticating" then yes, I'm guilty of that.


If some of you guys would get away from that over hunted public land and get out and see some wild, untouched land you will find that out for yourself.

TXhighrack 11-23-2004 02:17 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 

The public land animals I hunt would all be dead if they were as uneducated and tolerant as some of the animals I see on hunting shows.
You guys crack me up. I hear the same crap over and over on alot of different hunting forums.

Alot of you guys actually seem to believe that in order for a buck to be considered a "Trophy" he must live on public land, be chased from valley to valley during hunting season, have 15 guys shooting at him, and must be killed by 1 1/2.

Some of you guys need to back away from the over hunted public land. There are so many stupid post about this topic that it really is insane. Some of you public land hunters just bring a smile to my face when I read some of the uneducated post you all make.

Geronimo 11-23-2004 04:42 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
Besides being a drug store hunter he has the most annoying, whiney voice that I have ever heard. I believe I'm going to be sick!!!!

Charlie P 11-23-2004 04:46 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
On another thread I stated that if you were hunting huge acerage with out much pressure that the deer wouldn't be a leery even bigger bucks and you told me I didn't know what I was talking about.

Let's say I have 10,000 acres high fenced that I manage for QDM. Myself and 5 other guys hunt this property and we are on it in the off season putting in food plots and loading the feeders frequently. Do feel that this would actully condition the older deer not to be leery of humans. You would have to admit that is very light hunting pressure and a deer could be a few years old before it see's a human. They would grow acccustomed to smelling man with out alot of danger. You bringing them their food.That's no reason to fear you.

Come hunting season they hear a few shots and then it's over for another season. Once again many of these deer are never put in a predator prey situation. No reason for big bucks to become nocturnal,right
?


One of your reply's


Old mature deer are wild animals, it makes no difference if they live on heavily hunted land or land that recieves very little hunting. Deer are not going to lose there fear of humans just because they arent shot at every time they stick there head out of the brush. Deer ( along with all wild animals) have evolved to fear humans.
So are you saying that an old mature deer would have to smell your scent and see you to fear a human. If they aren't worried about human scent why not the deer I hunt will react to your scent especially if the get a whiff around their core area.

I don't hunt public land all priviate. Just got a nice lease this season with some friends.

Charlie P 11-23-2004 04:51 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
What would you call an animal that depends on humans for food and starts to identify humans as a food source. Looses it's fear of human scent and in som cases the sight of humans. I call that animal domesticated.

IL-Cornfed 11-23-2004 04:56 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
I just want to know how in the world does he snag a BIG sponsor like Chevy trucks??? [&:]

MOTOWNHONKEY 11-23-2004 05:07 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
The guy is a total jackass. Did you see that doe? He,s got a big smile on his face when he ought to be ashamed. I bet he had some serious doe fever when that brusier walked up. What a joke!

Huntnsinme 11-23-2004 06:14 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLL
You guys are killing me.......hahaha

Bionicrooster 11-23-2004 06:40 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
TXHigh Rack, I am curious, having never hunted Texas, do you still feel like its a challenge to shoot deer that do not think of humans as danger? I mean, is there a thrill in it or is it more like "harvesting" a steer for butcher. I hunt both public and private and in both places, even the ones that get very little hunting pressure, the deer are VERY cautious when it comes to people. But to me this is the best part of the challenge.

TXhighrack 11-23-2004 08:17 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 

do you still feel like its a challenge to shoot deer that do not think of humans as danger?
Look its very simple. The deer are not "tame" or "domesticated". If they see you, there going to run. If they see your truck, there going to run. If a deer catches your wind, they might look in the direction of the scent but if they dont see anything (you) then they usually continue with there bussiness.

TXhighrack 11-23-2004 08:20 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
MOTOWNHONKEY:

Hey arent you the guy who just got banned from Bowsite.com? I guess your coming to this site to start the same crap over here? Mod's you might want to watch this guy at the other site they were recording his IP (whatever #) because of the things he did and said over there.

JimboHunter1 11-23-2004 08:28 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 

If a deer catches your wind, they might look in the direction of the scent but if they dont see anything (you) then they usually continue with there bussiness.
TXhighrack- I read your post and I want to make it clear that I have hunted private land my entire life. When a wild deer "catches your wind", they haul @ss and ask questions later. If you claim that the deer you hunt will lower their guard after smelling you as long as they don't also see you, then I have to agree with Charlie on this thread... they're not wild. Deer rely on their noses MUCH more than their eyesight when they protect themselves from predators. Your deer don't view you (or your smell) as a threat, therefore, they've become domsticated.

TXhighrack 11-23-2004 08:51 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
Jimbo.

How can a deer on several thousand acres become "domesticated" when they have never been "handled" or had any human contact? Filling some feeders every couple of months and sprinkling corn by hand once in a while would not quailfy as human contact.

It really dosent matter if you hunt private land or not. What does matter is how big that land is, how many neighbors you have, how many guys hunt around you, and if there is any highways or houses near the area you hunt. If so, then the deer in your area view humans as a greater danger then the deer in other areas.


Your deer don't view you (or your smell) as a threat, therefore, they've become domsticated.

They do view humans as a danger, just not always our smell. It still cracks me up that you think a wild deer that lives on countless untouched acres has become "domesticated" just because he dosent **** himself everytime he catches some human scent.

springer01 11-23-2004 09:23 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
You guys have never seen a Mexico hunt?? The deer in Mexico rarely if ever see humans or relate humans to death because of lack of hunting pressure, and human contact in general. They are by no means domesticated, but are very less leary and aware of human presence. I believe this is what TXhighrack is trying to get across.

Mex

Bigwapitijohnny 11-23-2004 09:24 PM

RE: Keith Warren
 
Integrity is earned, not bought. I know that the trophies on my wall were truly earned through hard work and perseverance. I can sleep at night knowing this. Don't 'cheapen' the hunt for the show's sake, it's obvious.

I don't think that Keith would be welcome in our elk spike camp.

GS


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