My big buck got stuck last night
 

I own 200 acres, that are devoted to deer hunting. I have several large food plots. I also have some soy beans and two alfalfa fields. All summer, i have been watching a big buck. Easily 140 class. Last night, my neighbor shot him. It should not bother me. But it does. I work hard all year keeping things up. He has never helped me one bit. And he puts his stands up all over our property line. Every year he benefits from my hard work. And never even bothers to give me a hand. I know for a fact he shot that deer while it was on my land. I was watching him. I just went over and admired the deer. I figure their is no reason to start a feud. It just honks me off. Sorry for the long post, I needed to vent a little.

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I hope at least you have a management plan set up with him. I know we do with neighbors. We have an eight point minimum and witnessed a neighbor shooting a four point on our land. Needless to say, he no longer has permission to come on the land what-so-ever. If he need to retrieve one, he needs permission.

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He is of the mentality, if it's brown it's down. We have gotten into it before, because he would shoot spikes. He never shoots a doe, only bucks. Regardless of the size. I know he has every right to do so. I just wish he would work with me on this. When I started this five years ago, a 100" buck was huge around here. By working with other hunters around here, things are really starting to change. But when someone shoots any buck that walks by, it makes it hard.

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It wouldn't be considered a "Pen" if the is a high fence on just 1 side;).

I can certainly feel your pain. I haven't had you situation arise but I did plant a couple of small food plots this year (less then an acre total) so I know what kind of money, time, energy, and sweat go into them. Have you ever asked the guy for a hand or seen if he was interested in land management. Possibly he feels out of place coming over to help.(I don't know the situation)
If you want to keep deer from crossing the line my best suggestion is to give him about 15 feet of chain link fence on the entire property line. It'll probably start the feude you'd like to avoid but it'll also slow down the migration of deer off your property to his.

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I got some guys that like to put their stands right on my property lines too.

Pigs.

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That really sucks that he shot it on your land. I have an agreement with our neighbors that NO bullets or arrows cross property lines on the way to the target. I have had a few issues with one but I think that has all been worked out now. I have no way of knowing if they follow the rule when I am not there but then they have no way of knowing if I do either. Maybe just talk to him sometime about shooting over the property lines. Good luck with it.

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My neighboe is similar, there's not much you can do. Grin and bare I guess.[&:]

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Thats what I was thinking - If I had 200 acres and put my heart and soul into it and my neighbor chose not to listen to QDM practices and was hunting my land, that neighbor would be fenced out along that property line. Furthermore, I'd probably leave hair clippings in little vials all along that property line to keep the deer from going near it during season. Call me a JackA@@ if you want but its your land and your hard work - not his.

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If he really shot it on your land that's ashame. But to label a free ranging deer "My big buck" is setting yourself up for disappointment.
I'm sure other deer that don't use your plots most of the year will venture through your land, especially once the rut hits. The big one you shoot might be someone elses self proclaimed Big buck.

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Isn't that a bit extreme?

I know what you're feeling longrifle, the guy that own property along by back piece of property has a real problem with me, and I have no idea why. Never did anything to irratate each other. I really hate that type of relationship with neighboring property owners. You kind of have to walk on eggshells sometimes not to start a fued with the neighbors, but if you're willing to put up with them so be it. I'd probably just talk with him and ask him not to hunt on the property and not shoot at anything that is. Can't tell him what to do on his own even if he is putting up stands along the line, just as long as he is shooting at game on his side.

Do you guys who are suggesting a fence have any idea of the costs of something like that? It's not as simply as you think. In some areas, you even have to have a permit to put one up.

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Sounds like around here. Stab your neighbor,stick a deer on his property. Most hunters around here think their only responsibilty to hunting is stick one or blast one. They never put back in the system,just take. Good for you and your effort to plant and give back..As far as your neighbor a slum hunter.

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neibors can be a pain in the neck. But there aint a thing you can do. We are lucky that not many people around us hunt but the problem is that our neibors to the south heard I was fishing on there land and he want let me park on there property to access the back section of land on the other side of the creek. What happened was that one summer day I went fishing w/ a friend from out of town and on the way back through I drove to the back side to show him where I hunt and on the way out a friend of the owners was following me out and oh by the way his brother played baseball for me so he didn't like me because I made him work to hard ya no. So he told th owner that I was fishing on there land because I had tubes in the back of my pickup and that I ran from them ( ya right ). So now I can't park on there land anymore because he believes the a-hole friend of his. Sorry a little venting on my part too.

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Well I had the surveyor here a while ago. The treeline he has his stands in are mine. So friday I will be putting up a new fence on the other side of the tree line. I already told him to take down his stands by then, or they will be mine. He's more than a little pi$$ed right now. I told hime he could work with me, or against, it was his decision. I have asked him in the past for help with things. Out of 200 acres, 150 are planted. I do it all my self. With the exception of 15 acres of beans. The other neighbor plants them. It's a lot of work. And I do understand it's not "my" buck. But that deer got to be that way because of my labor. Not his. He just benefited from it. Thanks for all the responses.

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Wow brother! That's a lot of work. It sure is good for the soul though:)

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Good luck with the neighbor now sounds like you really ticked him off. But hey a guy has to do what a guy has to do. Don't worry those does will bring another big boy onto yer property to eat at one of yer food plots just be ready when she does.

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Yeah I gotta agree with this...it's just the beginning of the season!

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if they are putting up stands on the fence line and taking deer of your well food ploted land then just contaminate his stands make the deer travel a differnet way urinate all around his stands on the trails that go by his stands leave your sent all over the place.

THIS IS A LAST RESORT THESE ACTS WILL NO DOUBT PI$$ HIM OFF BAD IF HE CATCHES YOU OF COUSRE, BUT WHEN HE WON'T DO HIS SHARE OR WON'T RESPECT YOUR WISHES AND IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT HE THINKS ITS NO BIG DEAL BECAUSE YOUR NEIGHBOURS. I HAVE NEVER DONE ANY OF THESE TERRIBLE ACTS AND DO NOT AGREE WITH THEM BUT I WON'T TELL IF YOU DON'T

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You really need to get past that non-confrontational part of you!;)
No offense , but dont pi$$ and moan when you let it happen with no consequences. If someone shot a deer on my land without permission I'd be doing alot more than going over to admire the deer.

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Good for him.. he did something right maybe. REally, it's NOT your deer. That's why we have fair chase and all that. Have you ever stopped to think that maybe his property offers something yours didn't. Like maybe not as much activity, cover, access to food(your plots) etc. You don't have to spend everyday walking the territory to have a good deer habitat or animals. Sometimes its just let mother nature do her thing and quietly trying to figure out what she's doing. If it's a buck of the caliber your talking about, he didn't get that way being stupid and the guy/neighbor probably figured something out. We're not sure if he benefits from your hard work or his savy hunting skills and attention to detail. You don't have to necessarily have to over manage your land to shoot quality animals. You have no reason or grounds for starting a feud. The animals are free ranging as they should be and he took advantage of a bucks habits. If anything, you should congratulate him and try to figure out what he knew that you didn't. You may not like it, but he won/succeeded. Why would you be ticked about that? It's his land and now the deer is his. End of story. Spending countless hours and months grooming a crop does not necessarily give you claim rights to all the deer in the area. Your crops may make for a healthy herd but at the same time they make the deer more patternable. Your neighbor seems to have figured it out if he does it year after year to you. By the way, he doesn't see it as doing it to you. He calls it hunting.

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I agree with most that you have said David, but I think the arguement here is that the guy shot the deer on Longrifle's land.

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Bast@rd[>:]

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Well I didn't read his middle post about the stands being on his land. So, that's wrong. Now that the line has been surveyed that won't happen. 10 yards here or there didn't kill the deer. It's where was he coming from and where was he going? I'm sure the deer could have been killed just as easily 10 yards away. These old unsurveyed property lines are always iffy(especially with todays modern survey equipment. We lost 45 yards off one line this year with a survey. Lost a ton of good trees to hunt from. We hunted them last year and killed deer from them. I'm now 50 yards away but still seeing the same deer.

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You guys know they sell a deer barrier which consists of a tape with some soulution on it.
Orginally intended to protect food plots, keep deer out until the food plot was big and healthy then take down ribbon barrier. the soulution on the ribbon was what kept the deer from crossing it. can't remember the name but was just thinking...

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Maybe you need to tone down planting 150 of the 200 into crops and get some trees growing. Only 50 acres of the 200 for holding deer? Deer probably don't spend the amount of time on your land that you think they do.

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I agree, he said he had a surveyor come out and look and the guys stands were past the property line, on longrifles side...that would kinda tick me off too, if it was in fact on the other guys land though, I would just be jealous :)

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I'm not pi$$ing and moaning. I was sharing what was going on. As far as letting it happen with no consequences, I took care of the issue. What did you want me to do? Go break his nose. That would have solved nothing, and I would have been arrested. Sorry, I'm not that dumb.

We are working on it. We have a 15 acre stand of the thickest crap i've ever seen. A lot of deer hole up in their. And the rest of our trees are old hedge rows. Next spring we are planting several hundred trees. I have olny owned this land for five years. It takes time, and money.




Now back to the neighbor. If his land has so many deer, why is it that he only has stands on our property line? And as far as him shooting it on my land, the way I was raised, that is wrong. Legally their was nothing I could do. I had no proof, just my word against his. What I can legally do is put up the new fence. That is what I am doing this afternoon.

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In Georgia it is not illegal for someone to shoot a deer on your property but it is illegal to retrieve an animal across property lines without written permission, even if it mortally wounded and you are trailing it. You may want to recheck your game laws. Get some bedsheets and hang them in front of his stands to obstruct his view of your property. This will probably create and issue but it seems like there is already one. Good luck. Whatever you do don't give in to his shootem up strategy - keep letting the little ones walk, at least if you let them go he can live to see another day to grow.

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Sorry to hear about your troubles longrifle. I'd be mad too if I knew he shot it on my land and there is no easy answer here. Wouldn't it be nice if you were both on the same page and worked together as you say?? Now that you have that surveying done, putting up a new fence would work but it also might make things worse. If he gets in your face about it just remind him that this all would have been avoided if he had only offered to work with you and also remind him of the work that you've put into your land. Or you could go have a heart to heart with him again and state what you intend to do (Putting up new fence) and give him one more chance to become a decent neighbor.

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Longrifle ,
I sympathize with you for your neighbor problem , and I don't like brown and downers either , but your neighbor isn't required to hunt or tend his own land the way you do . He's a landowner just like you and entitled to do as he wishes with his own property . From your description it seems that all you have here is a case of simple trespass and a possible game violation . Fence him out and post your land , and be prepared to call the sheriff and/or the local game warden if he persists with trespassing .

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Damn that sucks

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Longrifle!

I know just how you feel ,and I don't blame you for being a little ticked off about it .I'm sure your nieghbor really appreciate's your hard work because it sure does benefit's him.I know this well ,on a piece of property that I hunt and now the owner has given 2 others permission to hunt there .I've put out lick's and deer cocaine and a small food plot to keep this buck around ,last week I went in to check my lick's and plot and guess what I found? deer stand's up all around the plot and deer stands up near my lick's .So I feel as you do I've done a lot of scouting and learning this buck's pattern and all that I can think of to keep him around just so other's can benefit from my hard work and come in and hunt them ,and there's a good chance that they just might take him out from undernieth my nose .So I know all to well just how you feel .It tick's me off but what can I do ,I don't want to nor will I say anything to the owner of the property because I enjoy hunting his property and have had lot's of good luck there as well .I'll give these guy's 2 week's and then it's my turn maybe god will be looking out for me and put my buck undernieth me when I get into my stand .

nubo