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Opening morning had a pack of coyotes pass about 50 yds in front of me[:'(] and then last night just as I sat down I heard something running through the woods then I saw a nice buck jump up 75-100 yds in front of me and run right past my stand with @#$% coyote in pursuit. I just had to sit there and watch cause I hadn't even pulled my bow up yet. The coyote came back by a few minutes later but stayed just out of range this time but I will promise everyone some coyote stew shortly;)

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ya there a problem sometimes hope your luck changes

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Try a fawn in distress call to bring those yotes in and then tack the to the ground! It's the only way I know to solve the problem.

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I am with adams. I would start carrying a turkey call, a fawn distress, and a mouse squaker with me and I would shoot at everyone that gave me a shot. I would also go back after the season and try to call up and kill as many as possible.

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KILL EM ALL, LET GOD SORT EM OUT!

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IMO coyotes are never out of range. ;)

Elk-40 yard limit
Deer-50 yard limit
Coyote-about 120 yards...Don't care where I hit them.....

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Where I rifle hunt in northern PA, We kept seeing a huge blond male yote chasing deer for a couple years. Even other guys were talking about it. Well, I have to brag that he died a sudden death when he stood too close to me one snowy morning. I heard something running up the bench toward me and though it was a buck, When he popped up over the edge I already had my crosshairs on him. He stopped for a moment to smell the air. I gave him a wiff of gunsmoke, shot him in the neck. I would say he was close to 50 pounds. I dragged him up the mountain for my bros. to see. I left him on a rock to sun himself after that. He had a really long nose compared to others I have seen so I guess he was a mature one. Too bad it wasn't a female.....

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I wonder what the coyotes think of us as they hunt to survive in their domain while we intrude to hunt mainly for entertainment and trophies? :eek:

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I bet they would think we were pretty tasty if we died out there.:)

I bear no malice to coyotes but we have a serious over population and mange in the population.

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check yoru local ordinances there might be a bounty on them in yoru area.. i know there is around here. i dont think it is much but peoples dogs have been attacked latley.. they found a colar and a spine of a small dog a couple of months ago...

needless to say if they run past my stand i have a couple EXTRA, OLDER broad head tipped arrows that im sure are not as sharp as they used to be that i target practice with... and who ever said that the fawn distress call works.. 110% correct.. if you hear them or if you have a gut pile around do that call and you wil see them come RUNNIN. i scouted about 10 different sets of prints in the AREA thath i hunt.. i better not loose a deer to them.. i will be pissed. i iwll be bagging myself soem coyotes this year thats for sure...

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Who cares? [&:]

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I've had 6 fawns, 1 doe, and 8 turkeys killed on my property in the last 6 months, not to mention that they have littered a consistently used buck trail with their scat. Now this would be OK if I had 1,000 acres but on 30 I need to do some damage control. I have never killed an animal just for the sake of shooting something but don't know what else to do. I have now declared war on these guys. Purchased a new 223 super short action rifle, the wildlife research pro caller to help eliminate them. They also killed 6 geese that live on the property. Enough is enough. I heard if ya get one, they won't be too eager to return soon. I'm almost as excited about coyote season (10/1) as bow season (10/15). Good Luck w/em & I'll try some of that stew.

KEC

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I took care of mine this weekend :D

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I live in Potter County PA. I've noticed an increase in Coyote population over the past few years. The only good coyote is a dead one. I have seen them chasing deer alot while spot lighting. I wish you could shoot them from your truck. I'd be glad to have the pgc tag along to make sure I'm not poaching deer, i just want to get rid of every freaken yote that calls this county home. lol They are worthless in my eyes.

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We have them on our place but we can never find them in the day light. Any ideas for getting the D@MN things? Any time I have had one get near me in the woods the spot me right away. I feel sorry for you guys that can't hunt them all the time. For WI they are open all year no limit. Guess we know what the WI DNR feels about them.

Texasaggie - Nice one.:D

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nice job

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I have had that problem a couple of times over the years. I wish I would of shot but they never came into range. I also had wild dogs chasing a doe on one occassion and I would of shot but I thought they were my buddies coon dogs but they were not!

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CG I was thinking the same thing, a coyote out of range?, impossible. I would be flinging arrows at that thing out to 75yds.

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To truly enjoy hunting is to compete with ALL elements. I have no problem with culling animals as long as it is legal and necessary. It is the constant whining I read of wanting all the coyotes gone, kill all the squirrels, kill all the crows, kill of those damn pesky geese, etc, so one can just see deer.

I would suggest that if one wants hunting to be that desolate and so defined, purchase or rent a bowhunting video game. :eek:

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I'm with c903 - Why shouldn't we be thrilled to have them around? We have quite a few too, and alot of deer. I've seen where they've killed a couple - and consider myself lucky for the experiences I've had with them.

I'd take one with a bow in a heartbeat - but as a worthy trophy - not as some second-rate, sorry-ass excuse for an animal some as you portray them to be?

I'd like to hear some of the reasons people hate/fear them so.........

post away.

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Not many coyotes here yet...but if they begin to show themselves...I got a Scorpion XP with their name on it. [>:]

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I shoot 'em if I get a chance. Last year shot two with my bow and one with the T-C Omega. When I was young we often rounded up the pickups and CB's to hunt coyotes. Now hardly anyone hunts them. Thus, the population has gone crazy. I have seen more of them lately than you could imagine. Every morning and evening in the stand they start their serenade.

Nice job texasaggie.

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So you're defining what "enjoyment" is for the entire hunting population:eek::(
So you're sure that I can't truly enjoy hunting without competing against ALL elements[8D]:eek:
I am glad that you told me because up until now I was pretty sure that I could[&:][8D]:eek:


Coyotes are just like any other animal. If their populations gets out of control then it throws the ecosystem out of whack. Humans are their only predator we need to do our part to keep the population in check. I don't want to see coyotes extincted but I don't want to see them over populating and reaking havoc on other game species populations. Therfore, I will continue to do my part to see that they do not, every chance I get.
Coyotes are so smart and elusive that you can bet that you only see a very small percentage of the ones that use your property and shot oppurtunties are far less than that. Given the limited number of encounters that most hunters are afforded, it is in everyones best interest to harvest a coyote every oppurtunity we get. Not to mention, the benfefits we provide to farmers and ranchers via decreased livestock loss. Obviously, it is most all hunters best interest to benefit your landlord or surrounding landowners whenever possible.

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dont forget the smaller DOMESTICATE pets that are killed almost every other weekend it seems! but they are adapting and doing what they were ment to do. scavenge when required and kill when nessicary

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File this one under "Who cares? " .
'Yotes that cross my path once don't usually get a second opportunity to do so . Bizarrely enough , my state has a designated season for these vermin ! [&:]

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I've witnessed coyotes kill an area's entire antelope fawn crop in less than 3 months. Well over 100 fawns. G&F confirmed it. 10 square miles=ZERO fawn antelope. No sign of disease, just predation.

I have more respect for coyotes than just about any other animal because of what they have and can survive. Amazing animals. But in their current numbers around here they are devastating on the ecosystem.

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Every fall I like to hunt yotes'. Its is as challenging as anything. When I do get a yote' I take him to a fur trader a get a little gas money. They are very hard to hunt. I have a healthy population around my area.

here is a picture from last week. This pic was the first one on the roll. It was about 10 min after I left. If he comes back in a couple weeks, I hope I can get him.

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Because they are equal to the New York City sewer rat. They have rabies and mange throughout and they are freaken worthless. We dont need them to take out the moles and mice, we have fox and bobcat doin that. They serve no purpose for a better environment in PA. I see them chasing deer all the time while spotlighting. I am not competing with them, they kill fawns and peoples pets , I kill mature doe and buck. "Some things are better off extinct"....

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Just something else to put an arrow through......here's one I took out of my favorite bowstand.......a nice trophy taken with a bow, after this one I killed one with my shotgun coming to my spring turkey calling and later that fall I shot one with a .270 out of the same stand as this pictured yote. They are very hard on deer no doubt and I'll shoot everyone I see as a challange.

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Sounds like you could be describing racoons, skunks, oppossum, or any of several other local animals. What makes a coyote so much more hated? I just don't understand - coyotes are quite deserving of our respect in my book - at least they have mine.

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Coyotes decimate the environment, They deplete the game animals, especially deer by predation on the fawn crop. With man their only threat, they will become a serious problem. They should be driven to near extinction levels as they were in the past. Even at very small numbers they still have the capability to rebound, as they have now, when ignored for a long enough period. I say, see coyote, shoot coyote!

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That statement may be the record falsehood of the month. I would suggest your read what important role 'yotes play in the ecosystem. Pay particular attention to rodent control and their contribution to restoration of plants and trees, and distrubtion to other areas of the same.

As for decimating deer, that is pure bull. However, if deer populations are too high in an area, even though 'yotes don't kill as many deer as some believe, any deer they can kill can help to keep the population from reaching a critical population at which time massive deaths can occur from starvation and diseases. You could go to bed with an ample deer population to hunt, and wake up to nothing to hunt, or limited number of licenses being issued.

I have also killed coyotes. It is not the action; it is the attitude. Attitude is what distinguishes a genuine hunter from someone with a weapon whom just wants to kill something.

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Ok C,
You seem to have come back and added a whole new thought to your previous post. Coyotes serve no purpose and here is why. For rodent control we have foxes, bobcats, hawks, eagles, snakes, fishers, weasels, raccoons,on and on.....When coyotes get established, they breed to vast numbers and slowly decimate everything until there is nothing left. They thrive at the expense of all else. One species relaces many. I have seen the wasteland that these critters leave in their wake, devoid of predator and prey. When everything is gone, they move on, only to repeat the process somewhere else. I don't want them extinct, just this side of it would be nice. Why, as a deer hunter, do you want a species that continually hunts, chases or otherwise harrasses even healthy deer, so that a few more mice will be eaten, mice that would be eaten anyway, by something that won't eat the fawns? When I look in the crystal ball, I see coyotes, and eventually wolves and cougars, replacing hunters..YUK!

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Did anyone see the segment on the Drury's show that showed a mature buck being brought down and torn apart by 3 yotes...seems the first one pushed the buck into a ravine where the other two layed in wait and when the buck hit the gully all three were on the buck and tore the guts out of him..........my attitude still is, another animal to arrow and I will every chance I get.......a predator taking a fellow predator.....

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Hey kybuck1, I'm getting ready to have some coyote stew and don't even have to step into the woods! I live in a suburb of Chicago and have a coyote problem in my sub-division. We started noticing alot of rabbit remains in our yards and wondered what was causing it. We recently bought a new lab pup, so we've been getting up in the middle of the night to let him out (potty training is fo fun!), and sure enough we've been seeing a coyote. Sometimes spotted in the middle of the road in front of my house. Needless to say, I won't be calling animal control to take care of him!

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livbucks:

I added what I did because I had not read your last post before I posted.

Do not misunderstand; I am not saying that coyotes should not be hunted or that populations (coyote) have not increased dramatically in many regions. However, the belief that they cause widespread havoc and decimate animals and leave barren wasteland is a little farfetched.

My specific contention is with any attitude of wishing to eliminate any other animal just for the sake of deer hunting.

Keep in mind, predators also help maintain a strong an healthy population by killing off the sick and weak.

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C

I used to think like you. I was under the misconception that coyotes don't pose a threat to healthy deer. That was until I witnessed firsthand a coyote preying on a healthy mature doe. The coyote grabbed the doe by the back leg, tearing at the tendon, a typical strategy. Once the doe was limping it was just a matter of time until it would be brought down. The coyotes we see in northern PA are huge. Unlike the little fox looking things that some have posted pics of in this thread that live in the plains. I killed a huge male in the same exact spot 2 seasons later. I am not kidding when I say that this thing was more like wolf than fox. I have even heard rumors that these coyotes are a hybrid of wolf/coyote. When they get big enough to take deer, why would they bother sniffing around all day chasing little mice? I think they prey on mice as a backup when bigger prey is not available. I have a lab mix that is 60 lbs. The coyote I shot was clearly longer and taller than my dog. The only difference is my dog has the easy life, the coyote was leaner and meaner. I think they add to the lore of the woods and deserve to exist, but at very limited numbers.

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I accept that it is possible that one lone coyote could get lucky at times and bring down a healthy deer. In the story you gave I can only say; Smart 'yote, dumb doe! :eek:

I have read that eastern coyote's do run a bit larger.

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C

Not a story, but a factual account of what I saw. The doe was with her yearling and I was surprised the coyote went for her and not the little one. What I realized later is that the doe was trying to place herself between the coyote and the yearling to give the yearling a head start, probably not thinking that she would be caught. The doe damn near got away but the coyote caught her by the back leg and spun her. When she broke free there was a loud "SNAP" and off she went limping. The coyote noticed me and ran off the other way. I am sure he went looking for the doe later. Two seasons later I shot the big male in exactly the same spot. There are alot of big rocks in the area and the coyotes run the deer around them. I have heard they team up too, although I didn't see any others when this happened. There could have been more there I couldn't see, behind the rocks. Tenacious creatures to be sure.

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