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#12
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Capron VA USA
Posts: 45
RE: Pope and Young. . . should they count?
I would bet you there are several deer listed in their record book that were killed with 75% and 80% letoff. I have one in there that was killed with a Bear Magnum Hunter-45% letoff. When I filled the application out they only asked what kind of bow was used and what % letoff. They don't ask for any proof, just your word, and you think that everyone listed in the records was honest about it then I have a floating island I'd like to sell you. Good hunting.
#13
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Northeast Nebraska USA
Posts: 461
RE: Pope and Young. . . should they count?
I agree with frank. Getting your buck in P&Y doesn't make it any more or less of a trophy. I personally got a bow with 65% but the chances of me getting a buck that would qualify are slim. but i doubt i will put it in even if i do get one.
#14
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Edmonton AB Canada
Posts: 115
RE: Pope and Young. . . should they count?
All of you guys who think they shuld change the rules to let the +65% letoff into the books should start your own "private club". I want to get into bowhunting this next year and I could care less if my buck gets into the "book". Maybe once I start hunting with a bow I'll cahnge my mind and maybe there will be enough guys to initiate a private group honoring bucks over the 65% letoff rule. Who knows?
#16
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Convoy Ohio USA
Posts: 587
RE: Pope and Young. . . should they count?
The 65% let off rule is the rule that the club set many years ago, so they have every right to adhere to that rule if they want to. Personally I think that it wouldn't hurt anything to change it because any deer with a bow is a trophy and truthfully, that extra 5-15% let off really doesn't make that kill a whole lot easier or make the hunt for that animal any different. But as I said ,that is the cutoff in letoff that they set so they can stick with it if they choose. I killed a P & Y buck about 4 years ago with a legal 65% letoff and still didn't enter it in the P & Y record book. All you get is a line in little letters in the book and a piece of paper with the measurements. Big Deal. That is more of an ego thing really. Man I am just as proud of that trophy whether it was in the book or not. It really doesn't matter. I am proud of all my bowkills. That competing against others and just going to get your name in a book isn't for me. Man, I just love to bowhunt and cherish my time in the stand. No book or award can compete with that.
#18
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Roy Utah USA
Posts: 22
RE: Pope and Young. . . should they count?
How would anyone know if you changed your setup or not? I don't remember a phone in the forest that was a hotline to P&Y, nor do I remember a P&Y checkstation. Obviously the hunter would know.
But again, who cares.
"It's not the kill, it's the thrill of the chase"
But again, who cares.
"It's not the kill, it's the thrill of the chase"
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: egypt
Posts: 1,994
RE: Pope and Young. . . should they count?
hey Pheonix its 125 for whities....you can look at the P&Y's page on the internet. I do believe you need adobe acrobate 4.0 but its free so there ya go....
http://www.pope-young.org/
http://www.pope-young.org/
#20
RE: Pope and Young. . . should they count?
P&Y is a nice club and all, but I believe the become more irrelevent as each day passes. With so much focus on score, rack size whatever, does anybody stop to ask if a buck is P&Y legal? If a guy legitemately shot a typical buck with a bow that scored 210, does anybody care if it was shot with P&Y standards? It's still a world record bow shot whitetail-who's P&Y?
For example, what about a guy that uses an 80% let-off bow, with no sights and fingers, and another guy uses all the gadgets and trinkets, but has 65% let-off. Did the guy with 65% earn it more than the 80% guy?
That's why P&Y becomes more irrelevant as each day passes.
I used a 65% let-off bow last year, and I'll probably use an 80% this year, used 80% for several years before that, and 65 or 50 before that, but to tell you the truth, this is the most I've thought about P&Y ever.
I feel they will eventually wither into a pool of irrelevance, along with pet rocks and hool-a-hoops.
Jeff...U.P. of Michigan.
For example, what about a guy that uses an 80% let-off bow, with no sights and fingers, and another guy uses all the gadgets and trinkets, but has 65% let-off. Did the guy with 65% earn it more than the 80% guy?
That's why P&Y becomes more irrelevant as each day passes.
I used a 65% let-off bow last year, and I'll probably use an 80% this year, used 80% for several years before that, and 65 or 50 before that, but to tell you the truth, this is the most I've thought about P&Y ever.
I feel they will eventually wither into a pool of irrelevance, along with pet rocks and hool-a-hoops.
Jeff...U.P. of Michigan.