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ZAK

A-s-a-t stands for "All-Season-All-Terrain"

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How is it pronounced?

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I say "A-SAT"

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Buckeye because of your pics, my wallet is $160 lighter! Thank you!!:D

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That sig pic is too funny zak:D

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wow thats a great suite im gonna have to go pick one up for my self:D

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I have some All Season All Terrain underwear.

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how much can I get a pair of these for?? They look incredible! I went to Dick's last night, the one's they had were a JOKE [:@] !!

I wear a pair 36 jean. I am thinking a XL is probably the best size to go with.

How about pockets?? Do they have any?

Thanks
Steve :eek:

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stevenson

The XL would be the way to go for you.

They do not have any pockets. The pants have slash cuts on the sides so you can use the pockets in the layer you wear under the suit though.

Hope this helps!

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once again here is lens # call him im sure you wont be dissapointed.. besides i woudl ratehr give him my buisness!

MACROTECH ARCHERY PRO SHOP
5826 RITCHIE HWY.
BALTIMORE, MD 21225
410-789-7777

i cant remember what his buisness hours where so i woudl call during normal hours. 8-6 maybe. and since hes in MD take that into consideration too. im sure he doesnt like getting calls from guys in cali at 6 their time! :-D

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Sorry Len!

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Great testimonial!!!!
I love ASAT design Camo!!!
IMO the best Camo out there!!!!

Those are probably some of the best "independent" pics I have seen.

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Nice pics. Thank you for going through the trouble to set everything up and take the pictures in the first place. If I may ask though, why is there a blue tinge to most of the color photos?

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My digital is a piece of crap and desperately needs replaced.

It does it when the sun is shining bright. If it is overcast out pics are fine. Same as indoors all the pics come out fine then too.

Anyone wanna donate to the buckeye needs a good digital with a 10X optical zoom????;)

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:D

That would explain it.

Personally, though I do not think ASAT and the other open patterns are as spectacular as some would lead you to believe I do think that they work very effectively in a variety of situations. I am still kicking around the idea of picking up some of that Montana River Ghost camo....another open style camo pattern. I just need to budget another $125 from somewhere. ;)

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Pab, could you elaborate on that some more. I'm not looking for a hot debate, don't get me wrong, I am just interested in your point of view. :eek:

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I have the same suit, got it last Christmas and can't wait to use it this fall.

Thanks for posting the pics...saves me from have to try the experiment myself!

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So am I;)

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PAB, I would also like to hear why you think this is. I respectfully disagree with you on this one.;)

I personally feel the open patterns such as ASAT, Predator and the like are much better patterns. Especially for treestand hunting. If you're tucked up into some brush on the ground, then some of the "designer" camos like MO and Realtree will do just fine and you have a dark background to help out. But things aren't always perfect situations in the woods and deer will come in from the sides, behind you and such. Caught out in the open and the "designer" patterns do not have the breakup capability that Predator and ASAT do. In a tree this is only amplified. Tucked up in a homemade ground blind its very difficult to pick out the Predator camo. Snow, same thing.

IMO, there is too much detail in the Realtrees and the Mossy Oaks. It looks great up close, but stand back 20 yards (the average distance to most deer you see in the woods). The detail of the camo no longer has any bearing on its effectiveness. It begins to fill in.

These are things I noticed while taking pics of my new Predator camo compared side by side with Mossy Oak BU. Not saying all this because I am using Predator this year. It is the reason why I am using it this year.

Just my .02 cents

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Sorry that I did not respond sooner but I was off and on in terms of visiting the forums during that time period. To address the question at hand......

As I stated, I do think that ASAT, Predator, etc.. work well under a variety of conditions. It does not take a brain surgeon to recognize that fact. However I feel that their light color areas can work against you as easily as some of the darker patterns can in "lighter" areas. Case in point, I picked up an ASAT leafy outfit last November and used it for the end of our regular archery season. In four out of six situations where I had deer within shooting range they picked me out like a sore thumb. After much deliberation the only explanation which seemed plausible was the background I had put myself in front of.

A thick stand of pines was what I am referring to and/or anything that is dark and solid in color/shape. It is the only explanation as I was downwind from the animals and was not moving in a stand which was approximately 15 feet off of the ground.

With all due respect to those that use it (or any other camo pattern for that matter), pictures provided to illustrate the effectiveness are only two dimensional and do not really give a total "picture" of what camo really does look like out there in the deer woods. Granted, open patterns do look more effective up in a treestand where it is likely that open patches of sky may be the background but not all of the backgrounds one will find out there are representative of a light/dark contrast.

Now, many of you will say that the light/dark contrast of the pattern itself does, in and of itself, break up the human outline and I do agree with that, however, it still needs to be placed in the correct "context" to be as effective as it was designed.

To illustrate this point, I would ask anyone that has an open pattern design (leafy or otherwise) to do a little experiment for me. Climb up in a treestand in front of a stand of pines or other dark background and have someone take a picture of you up there....in regular sunlight preferably. Use color and/or black and white if you prefer. Then post them. I would be interested to see the results.

Again, my intent is not to challenge the effectiveness of open patterns in a variety of situations but rather to point out that conventional patterns can and do work well in specific situations.

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I think the key there would be to get within the pines, where ASAT would again rise to the top, but that is obviously much easier said than done. Not always possible. Still, if I had to pick one camo to wear exclusively, I think that there are more cases where ASAT and Predator would work best than where they would not work at all.

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PAB, I do see your point and your experiences with ASAT do carry weight. My thoughts are that with the Realtree and MO patterns, they are trying to look more like "something" rather than nothing, for lack of better terminology. Just curious, how did the deer react to you in the cases where you were caught? Having no experience with my Predator yet, I'm very interested to see. Personally, I think the Predator patterns do a better job of destroying you human form than does ASAT.

I guess what it boils down to is how well a deer can readily identify you as a human in the case where the deer do catch you move. Actually, it probably doesn't matter as deer are pretty paranoid critters to begin with.

PAB, I totally agree with you in the fact that all camo's do have their limitations and some work better in areas where others don't.

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That is all that I was trying to convey. Thank you for putting it eloquently. :)

In all but one situation when they spooked I noticed them first. They looked right at me...gave the customary stomp of the foot and then gave me the tail....give or take 10 or 20 seconds.

In all honesty, I have had that happen with non-open patterns as well which is just the point I am trying to make. Match the camo to the terrain and do not expect one pattern to work well everywhere.

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I was impressed enough to buy the ASAT outfit and look forward to trying it out in a few weeks. Actually I can't recall ever having a deer bust me based on sight alone. Usually I am done in by being upwind and scented or by movement. I generally am 16 feet up in my stands and try to have some kind of background to help break me up. In fact I have had many a deer look right at me for several minutes and not make me as long as I don't move. ..........Dabow

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Once again, I see your post is getting notice.
To me that just says what ASAT does for the hunter. Astounds and awes them.
In the field it is much more impressive. It works wonders when you are scent free!!!!!!!

I would not use anything else...

Be well.

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There not only great for hunting but also good for hiding from your wife when she is writing out the honey-do list!;)

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Thanks for sharing those pics. Very Cool. ASAT rocks!

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What do you do when the leaves fall off? We only have leaves on the trees for the first couple weeks in bowseason (6 weeks long)

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You should see how good it works after the leaves fall[8D]

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iam not gonna knock asat by any means its your all choice what you wanna wear.I have a 3-d leafy suit scent blocker plus and havent had a problem what so ever.guarntee you could take the same pics and get the same resultsand they have no pockets?what hunter doesnt need pockets to carry the stuff he needs? sounds like a design flaw imo.But as i said to each his own if it works for you and you beleive in it then thats all that matters bottom line.

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That is awesome i will be looking into a suit of that for next season.

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Sneeky

I wear a "fanny pack" You couldn't put enough pockets into a jacket for all the gear I bring along[8D]

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Does it not look like the same blob in the tree as any other clothing? Just being inquisitive......not knocking it.

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Nice looking suite.

I guess it might look like a BIG squirrel nest in a bare tree!

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It also works great when you take the youngun turkey hunting.

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oh boy......thats an accident waiting to happen!!!:eek:

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ok i cant see him in this one either. that is just amazing how good that works. i've worn a ghillie suit and there pretty darn close to this in the way they hide ya.

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ASAT is awesome. I wouldn't use any other.

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wow i've never even heard of asat camo before really. i got a leafy 3d suit during turkey season and i had a hen less that 10 yards from me and she didn't know i was there. i wonder how well this would do where i hunt in kenutcky? how much do the suits cost? i wouldn't mind getting one if i had a little extra money? but one way or another great pics.

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Great pic's buckeye ,I think I'm going to have to get some of theis ASAT for myself.

nubo