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is six arrows in a 10 inch group good at 20 yards?
is six arrows in a 4 inch group good at 10?
Im a new shooter second year goin to the deer stand with a bow and could use the help.


thank, alex

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Not really, no. I wouldn't be happy with either grouping. I practiced at ten yards with my 20 yard pin until I could get all my arrows touching. I practiced until I had most of my arrows touching at 20 yards also. You want to be precise in this game. You don't want to have to wonder if your arrow is going to hit where you aim, or ten inches to the left of where you aim. That's just me personally, but I wouldn't be happy with that.

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Alex,
Honestly?:eek:

No.....it's not.

IMO I would call 'Good' shooting 1" at 10 yards, 2" at 20 yards and so on.
"GReat" shooting is better than that, "decent" shooting a little worse.
I would call your groups "Need some practice";)

Seriously, work on good repeatable form, make sure everything on your bow fits and is tuned and maybe employ the help of a more experienced shooter.
Have fun stay with it and practice practice practice and the groups will tighten.

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at ten yards i can get 5 out of six touchin and the other one is out about 3 inchs.
At 20 most are within 4 are within 3 inches and the other to make the 10 inch margin. so......... i dont know about that?

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4" at 20 yards isn't great and I wouldn't shoot any farther, keep your max there. If your hitting a 10" circle at 20 yards, don't hunt at 20, you better move into 15 yards and get those groups down. Practice........know your max distance and stick to it!

GoodLuck!

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Ok, because I like posting pictures :) here's a view of the groups I strive for, and the groups I'd be dissapointed with. I just stuck these in the target so you'd get the general idea, i didn't want to haul the target back and forth up and down the stairs to shoot them.

My idea of a good 10 yard grouping.

My idea of a bad 10 yard grouping.

My idea of a good 20 yard grouping.

And lastly my idea of a bad 20 yard grouping.

Those are the types of groups I like and the type I dislike. Call me a perfectionist, but I like knowing pretty much exactely where my arrow is going to hit. No guessing about it.:)

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Take that one that is out about 3" and set it aside and try that group again with the remaining 5. Check to see if you have an arrow problem or a shooting form problem.

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Do what Dave Solgat just suggested. I was going to write the same thing. It sounds like you have bad arrow. Mark them and see if one consisitenly hits different than the others.

Dave

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You have a lot to learn grasshopper !! ;)

A friend of mine started shooting with us several years ago and probably was shooting about 7" groups at 20 yrds !! He didn't have a consistant anchor, his draw length was too long, and he was torquing the bow !

I taught him how to anchor , change his grip, and not punch his release !
After about 2 hours he was keeping them within a 4" circle at 20 ! My other friend put his bow in a press and shortened the draw length and made some small adjustments to his rest and sight ...........and he got down to about 2.5-3" groups within a week of shooting with us !

Anyway.......there is a lot to it ! You may want to go to a pro-shop and see if they can work with you and your set up !!

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If you're shooting all but 1 or 2 good arrows out of a half dozen I'd number your arrows and see it it isn't just a flyer or two in the bunch. If it is you've found the issue. If it's not I would really concentrate on your form.

What type arrow are you shooting?
What weight arrows?
What bow?
What poundage?

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ARShooter- Make certain your bow is tuned and your arrows are straight (if you don't know how-seek professional help). Shoot at 30 yards until you groups decrease. Focus on picking a spot, form and following thru with each shot. Once you start grouping well, drop back down to 20 and see the difference.

I often practice at 40 yards. It takes a more precise shooter to group at 40. Once accomplished the 20 yard shot feels like giveme's! (I'm not saying to shoot animals at these distances!!)

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You can also try to shoot at a 5 spot target. That way the other arrows are not on your mind. I shoot very well when I don't worry about a $7 WHACK on my arrows. When I shoot a single spot I get nervous and will float arrows around. You may not be worrying about that right now but you may be seeing your flyers and getting upset.

Try to shoot no more than 5 arrows at a time. 5 - 8 sets. If you feel tired STOP.

Also drop your draw weight down to the min that the bow will go. You are not in a position to be working a 70lber right now even if you can bench a mule. The guys that shoot 5 spot shoot HEAVY arrows and slow bows. They can shoot two or three rounds with minor fatigue. As you get better give your bow a 2.5 lb increase, you have pleanty of time to get it up to "hunting" weight.

Good luck.