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Double Creek 07-23-2004 01:15 PM

RE: POLL: Key factor to consistent success on MATURE bucks
 

#6 cuz If your not in the tree you think is so damn good, it won't help you a bit.

LOL..........good point..................lol..............

Mantis Mayer 07-23-2004 01:17 PM

RE: POLL: Key factor to consistent success on MATURE bucks
 

I doubt anyone is willing to pay very much for any of these

2. 10+ years of experience
3. Scent Control, including the wind
4. Knowledge of Hunting Area
5. Time spent scouting
Isn't that what all the fancypants are paying the guides for?;)



Take an average hunter..........not Chuck Adams but not a clueless tard either. Put him in the heavily driven, over hunted, beat down public lands and he will win the lottery before taking a mature buck.

Put that same hunter on a privately owned farm that gets minimal if any hunting pressure and has abundant food sources and good deer numbers and all he has to do is not miss. He will have a wall full of nice bucks.
Good point and I agree!

Rack-attack 07-23-2004 01:25 PM

RE: POLL: Key factor to consistent success on MATURE bucks
 

Who the hell is dumb enough to hunt the wrong area every day for 10 years!?
Ask how many bowhunters have hunted over 10 yrs and never shot a mature buck - and you will get your answer;)

I don't mean one tree for ten years:eek::eek:


And 100 days in the rong spots is not batting a good average!
I would bet there are thousands of hunters who have gone 100 hunts without seeing a mature buck. I know I have!



And I'm all for the handfull of days in the right spot but come on! Isn't all of our stands in the right spot, otherwize why would we have hung them
What % of stands out there right now have a real solid chance of seing a good buck during light? - I bet very low.

STAND LOCATION:D:D:D

Mantis Mayer 07-23-2004 01:33 PM

RE: POLL: Key factor to consistent success on MATURE bucks
 

What % of stands out there right now have a real solid chance of seing a good buck during light? - I bet very low.
All the more reason to be in your stands as much as possible until you either put the pieces together and or score.:):D

Rack-attack 07-23-2004 01:37 PM

RE: POLL: Key factor to consistent success on MATURE bucks
 

All the more reason to be in your stands as much as possible until you either put the pieces together and or score.
LOL..................:D


When I was a kid I fished in a puddle in the road infront of my house for years - sometimes all day............:eek:

never cought a thing because I think I had the wrong color lure on...........:D:D;)

atlasman 07-23-2004 01:49 PM

RE: POLL: Key factor to consistent success on MATURE bucks
 

ORIGINAL: Rack-attack

knowledge of the woods alone is of no help IMO. I can know where every tree, trail, rub and scrape are - still doesn't mean I will set up in the right spot. The reason we as hunters want knowledge of the woods is so WE CAN SETUP in the RIGHT LOCATION....thats why Stand Location is #1 for me.
But.....if you have no or minimal knowledge of the woods what chance do you have of setting up in the right spot??


Same thing with scouting - its important but...you can spend everyday scouting and still not set up correct. And again the reason we scout is so we CAN SETUP in the RIGHT LOCATION.
Again........what are your chances of setting up properly if you have not done your homework (scouting)??



Scent and wind? - You could hunt and be completely scent free - and if a big buck aint comming under you - he still won't come under you - If your stand is in the wrong spot. But you can stink like a horses A[:o][:o] and still have a good chance IF your stand is in a tree that a big buck is walking under that day. Got a better than 50% chance he will be upwind of you.
What if the big boy WAS coming your way but caught wind of you and changed his direction..........you never saw him.........but would you have if you were scent free?



Time in the stand......If it aint in the right area you can hunt every day for 10 yrs and it wont help. Give me a handfull of days in the right spot over 100 days in the wrong spot - any day of the week.
The only problem I see with that is any given tree can be heaven one day and hell the next.........it isn't really that the location is good or bad.........more like the timing.



To sum it up - you can do every other thing 100% correct - and if you have not stuck yourself in a tree that a mature deer is going to walk under - you will not get him.
I see what you're saying more as a timing thing then a location thing. Hell, a mature buck probably walks past 1,000 trees a week. They are all good if you happen to be in them at the right time.



I just see all the other categories as cyclical. They are all dependant on each other in some way, shape or form. None does you much good without the others.........none stand out to me as a difference maker on their own.

Put me (and only me) in a sweet ol' food plot where big boys like to nibble and chase does and I'll take my chances with all the other stuff ;)

BagginBigguns 07-23-2004 01:49 PM

RE: POLL: Key factor to consistent success on MATURE bucks
 

ORIGINAL: Rack-attack
When I was a kid I fished in a puddle in the road infront of my house for years - sometimes all day............:eek:

never cought a thing because I think I had the wrong color lure on...........:D:D;)
Jigging, casting, trolling? Your technique is the problem. :eek::D;)

Mantis Mayer 07-23-2004 01:52 PM

RE: POLL: Key factor to consistent success on MATURE bucks
 

When I was a kid I fished........
Bad analogy. You have me sitting in a really bad area the hole season with this blank stare on my face! :D


I guess we shale agree to disagree.

rybohunter 07-23-2004 01:52 PM

RE: POLL: Key factor to consistent success on MATURE bucks
 

All the more reason to be in your stands as much as possible until you either put the pieces together and or score.
I thought overhunting a stand was a big NO-NO when pursuing mature bucks.

Mantis Mayer 07-23-2004 01:54 PM

RE: POLL: Key factor to consistent success on MATURE bucks
 
Who said I have one stand and it's locked in one spot?


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