About this bow and the accessories?
http://www.huntersfriend.com/buckbowpkg.htm

It sounds like a good deal, but. How can they put the peep in for you without you being there? Every person is different and that is an individual install item. Not universal for every person. You better now your draw length for sure and hope the bow is what it says it is. Just because a bow says it has a 30 inch draw doesn't mean it does. Bows can vary as much as inch from manufacturer to manufacturer. Mathews and Parkers tend to draw 3/4 of inch farther than what the module says.

It also hard for someone else to paper tune your bow for you, since again, everyone shoots different.

If you had some knowledge about bows and can serve in a peep and tune one one your own the price sure seems good. These are good bows, not the best on the market, but not junk either. It does seem slow by todays standards, especially for having a brace hight under 7 inches.

If you were a beginner I would highly recomend going to a proshop. Take the ad with you and see how close they could get to it. You may pay a bit more, but it would be worth it.

If you new a little bit about archery and bows and feel comfortable tinkering with them it would make a great back up bow. I have seen bows in shops completely set up for around 400 dollars that were very nice. But you would most likely have to buy the case and release seperate. Usually the arrows and heads too. Which could add about another $200 the price.

I am curious to see what others think.

Paul

Edited by - biteme/paul mohr on 01/06/2002 12:47:54

It looks like a good deal and I suppose that it can be fine tuned once you get it, but I sure have a problem with them selling a bow with broadheads and stating that it's ready to hunt if they are selling to someone who's never shot before. To me, that's just like handing a loaded rifle to a kid and saying go for it without the benefit of instruction or practice. That's just plain irresponsible and detrimental to bowhunting and bowhunters everywhere.

as a newbie to the art of bowhuntimg, i can tell you the importance of buying from a pro shop. i have had to have my bow re-ajusted once when it was 6 weeks old and paper tuned. the rubber hose to the peep on the string broke twice and the arrow rest had to be warranteed at 2 months old. i also depended on the owner for how-to when it came to learning the skills of shooting. and when i developed some bad habits that made shooting slightly embarssing, he was there to help straighten my form back out. dont have a dollar value on this, but i paid 650.00 for my total out fit over time and am glad i bought from someone whom could offer this support. if i had to pay for his services i surely would have spent much more in the long run. and plus i found a new friend. lamar.

Gentlemen,

I would like to respond to your comments about our Champion Buck Bow System. It is not my intent to promote the sale of our bows on this forum, but rather to defend the negative comments suggesting that we cannot properly setup a bow via phone order. I believe the assumptions you gentlemen have made are at least partially incorrect. I respectfully request the opportunity to rebut.

Actually, we have a very high success rate building these bows via phone order. Like many bows, the Champion Buck Bow uses interchangable modules to adjust draw length. If we find that a customer would like the draw length adjusted after receiving their Buck Bow package, we simply swap modules with the customer. The modules can be changed without a bowpress and just a simple allen wrench. So it's not such a techical process after all - and certainly doesn't require an expert to perform the module change. We also physically measure the draw length of each bow using AMO standards - regardless of what the module number indicates. As someone stated, often we find that the actual draw length is different than the factory denotation. The exact reason that we double check each bow.

With regards to the peep sight - we get this question fairly often. Through experience, we've found that setting the peep 13cm over the nocking point fits better than 90% of our Buck Bow customers just fine. However, we use a short-serve technique that locks the peep down well enough so it will not move under normal shooting conditions, but allows the peep to be "scooted" up or down the string (with some effort - admittedly).

I'm not sure how to respond to the "Loaded Gun" comment, but let me say that every bow we setup comes with our "Getting Started Guide" that details basic maintenance, safety issues, sighting-in instructions, and answers to many other common questions and concerns about getting started with a new compound bow (especially for newbies). We also field a number of questions and provide support along the way if needed.

The paper and bare-shaft tuning we conduct on every Buck Bow system is also something we've done with great success. Our staff shooters conduct the test, approximating the form of the average archer - and tune accordingly. However, I'll be the first to admit that if a shooter has a dramatically out-of-standard shooting form, they will need to retune to get proper arrow flight. Tuning a bow isn't rocket science - and we've been able to resolve any of these minor tuning issues through phone and email.

While I think you've all made some valid points, I would like to punctuate my rebuttal by leaving you with this. Through the 2001 season, we setup and delivered over 200 Buck Bow Systems. And each and every Buck Bow System comes with a 100% money-back guarantee. No questions asked. Anyone who doesn't like their Buck Bow gets a full refund of the $359 purchase price.

However, to date - we have NEVER had a customer return their Buck Bow System. ZERO RETURNS! Given the very picky nature of the bowhunter and his equipment, this stands as a pretty solid testimonial that we do our jobs well.

Thank you for your kind attention. I welcome your comments.

Best Regards,
Michael Blanton
Hunter's Friend LLC
ProShop Manager


Edited by - huntersfriend on 01/30/2002 19:02:31

HuntersFriend made a good argument. Most of which is true. And...for the price...it is a great deal...even if you got only the parts...6 gold tips arne't cheap. Good bow. Even if you HAD to take it to a pro shop for fine tuning.....I think it's a decent set up. Based on our picky nature...I would change peeps, releases, and stabalizer...but that's just me!

Whatever works for YOU is right!
John

I bought a Buck Bow, through a pro shop tho, I like the way it shoots, and I have been at the range side by side with some shooters, shooting the higher end bows, and after we do a little talking, some are amazed at the price. I actually upgraded to a better sight, and a better rest and stabilizer, I was still under $450. I think you would be happy with its performance. There is also a limited lifetime warranty. I am not sure of some of the other manufacturer warranties, but I do know it beats alot of them.

Sounds like an awesome deal to me. As someone who has tinkered with bows for over 25 years, I just took it as common knowledge that a bow set up in a factory might not shoot the same as my old faithful until we got to see eye to eye on the range. You have to admit that it is a heck of a deal for that price. As far as the "loaded gun" theory, I don't fully agree with it. Any person able to pass the current checks can purchase a firearm and head to the woods to hunt for animals they may have never seen in their life. This is evident by the number of yahoo's that come to a check station with a farmers calve and think it is a deer. I admit this doesn't occur very often, but once is bad enough. Every one of us here was at one time new to the sport. Does that mean we automatically were a risk to game and everyone around. I think not. Even some of the most veteran arches posses bad habits. Bottom line it looks to be a great bow at a great price and the only ones that need worry are the pro shop owners as it could take some of their business away.

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