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Tobacco in the stand?
I have have heard people say you should not smoke while your in a treestand. I have also heard of people smoking while they shot a deer. Does it really matter if you do? Personally, I chew coppenhagen snuff, anyone think thats a bad idea while bow hunting? Let me know what ya think.
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I chew also but ive heard both sides of it but i havent noticed a difference, dad and my uncles smoked and killed many deer.
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I can not believe someone would dream of smoking in the woods. Smokers cant smell themselves, but I can smell them a mile off and a deers nose is better than mine. I go through a painstaking process to stay sent free. I never take my clothes indoors,get dressed outside etc. It has made a big difference in my hunting since doing so.
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I can honostly say that I have never seen a deer on or off stand while I had a cigarette lit. I have had deer approach within 5 minutes of putting one out, but never with one lit up. (my goal this year is to quit by Oct 1st!!!)
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One guy that used to hunt with us almost always had a cigar in his mouth, he saw lots of deer but he moved around alot.
My brother-in-law generally had a pinch of Copenhagen in and he has gotten his fair share of deer over the years. I take some Red Man with me from time to time during rifle season but never in bow season. |
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Tobacco, heck yes the more you smoke or chew the better. I also recommend lots and lots of cologne, I prefer Old Spice myself. And if I can I find a big pile of dog doo and step in it just before walking to my hunting spot. :eek:
Seriously, any scent you bring into the woods that isn't normally there will effect deers natural behavior and its not going to be for the better 99% of the time. |
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i chew skaol and my hunting buddies smoke and it dont seem to make a diffrence either way to the deer
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Hey TurkeyHunter, I can't say I never seen deer in the woods when I smoked but I've been a exsmoker for six years and I can't tell you how clueless I was on the smell of tobacco I carried, or how much more game I see now.
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I chew in the woods you know cherry and apple its normal for deer to smell that but i dont think smokeing would be a good idea. Although my uncles friend kills one every year and he smokes
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I dip and always spit in a bottle with a lid on it. Don't want to take any chances.
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I smoke during the off season, and chew while on stand during the hunting season, my brother smokes all the time and I see and harvest more deer, and he will never learn,, I personally don't think it makes a huge difference, but like see lots of deer, so I will not smoke on stand.
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Oh good idea why didnt i think of that. i use a bottle on the bus before school.
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"Oh good idea why didnt i think of that. i use a bottle on the bus before school. " Are you old enough to chew? Dont get caught on the bus, deep trouble. I got suspendid for it when I was younger. Or just learn to gut it like the real men do. |
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I asked this a little while back about snuff and didnt get hardly any responces. I was wonderin if some of the new flavors like wintergreen, mint, berry, and like the new skoal apple would act as an curiosity scent.
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interesting thought! if thats true, you know everyone in here is going to start chewing
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I would think for one, that natural flavors wouldnt bother deer one bit, and that using a SPITTER would help majorly, plus if your a minor quit while you can and dont get caught in school!!!
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They will smell you a mile away. Anyone who stinks in their stand and sees "lots" of deer would see 10 times more if they controlled their scent.
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I would assume that it makes a difference. I always have a dip when I hunt "in a tree stand down by the river." (opposed to "in a van down by the river." -Farley) This one spot I have is on the bank of a river which actually puts my stand over water so I can spit into the river undetected, and it works out great if I have to take a leak. I usually don't dip if I'm not hunting the river spot.
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Well i would say it is always a bad idea. Fu#kin gross. Anyway i knew a guy that said that he was smoking and chewing on his stand and he still shot a deer. That was rifle but still. I, first of all dont smoke or chew but that is pretty bad if you cant hold off for a few days in a tree stand. As far as spittin in the river. How high are you. That still leaves a lot of scent. especially if it is windy.
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ORIGINAL: Sharpshot_71 As far as spittin in the river. How high are you. That still leaves a lot of scent. especially if it is windy. |
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I smoked cigs on stand for years,killed a bunch of deer,with a few wallhangers here and there.I would kidd my hunting buddies that the deer actually prefer Salems over Marlboros.
I'm pretty good at making excuses for doing things I know is bad for me.I don't have a clue how many deer busted me because of smoking that I did'nt know about. Right know I'm in my eighth week of being smoke free,and after smoking for 25 years,it has'nt been easy.But,each day,it is getting a little easier.Not much,just a little. So,Hopefully, I'll be able to see what I've been missing this year...Bob |
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Good Luck Bob!!!!
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I have smoked and dipped over the years and I really don't think dipping would effect the deer at all. Heck cope tastes like dirt anyway so I wouldn't be surprised if the deer walked up and asked for a pinch:D. On the otherhand I can't imagine smoking while on stand is too good. I know during rifle season some of my friends smoke but they are on powerlines and the deer are pretty far away. The only time I ever saw a deer while smelling like smoke was a few years back. We were sitting at camp and I was in my hunting gear (done for the weekend) and I was smoking away. My friend talked me into going out one last time. We got into the woods and I didn't even feel like climbing a tree so I strapped on my stand and sat in it at the bottom, heck I could even smell myself. No more than an hour later a doe and her fawn walked up to me within 10 yards and never knew I was there. In retrospect I think wind played a huge role. This may be why some people see deer while smoking and others don't. If you play the wind right deer have a hard time smelling anything. IMHO.
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If ur hunting the wind then why should smoking be a concern? You should be set up so the wind isn't blowing your smoke in the direction ur hunting. ???
I usually hold out for a smoke until midday anyhow. |
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I quit smoking nearly 30 years ago after watching my uncle and grandfather both waste away and die with emphesyma. Dumping the cigs was a cakewalk compared to quitting snuff.
After all those years of dipping and chewing, and repeatedly trying to quit, I've finally broken the habit. A store by the range started selling Smokey Mountain non-tobacco snuff (cherry, mint and wintergreen are pretty good ;)). I started taking a dip of that every time I wanted a dip. Just being able to have that dip in the lip got me thru the nicotine withdrawal. It's been 5 months now and I don't even do the Smokey Mountain any more. Still have a twinge of wanting a dip now and then, but it's not that overpowering NEED I used to have. There is no question that getting off snuff was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life, but I did it. Quit. You'll feel a lot better. and think of how much huntin' stuff you can buy with the money you save!:D |
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I dip and always spit in a bottle with a lid on it. Don't want to take any chances. |
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My wife quits shopping I will quit dipping. Not very good odds on either. Would love to quit just have a hard time. Hopefully someday
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I killed several deer over the years while smoking. I don't think that deer associate the smell of smoke with danger. Human scent, however, is a problem. But you know what, even with all the carbon, charcoal, cover scents, and all, if you play the wind right, like you should, you could not shower for a week, and in theory, it shouldn't matter.
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I met an old Polish guy up in Maine at a hunting camp. He smoked all the time. He always shot a good deer too. I asked him about it and he said the cigarrette smoke helped him keep track of the wind. Whatever direction the smoke was drifting, he just looked the other way.
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Too bad that skoal doesn't make a doe-in-heat flavored, then you guys that dip would really have an excuse to chew on stand.
I'll just stick with my Marlboro "dominant buck" cigs. |
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doe-in-heat flavor snuff[:'(]
The way doe-in-heat piss smells, I dont even wanna think about how that would taste[:'(][:'(] |
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I've done it both ways ,
smoked on stand some times , and stayed as scent reduced as I possibly could on others . I didn't notice an appreciable difference in sightings of deer . I quit smoking in January after 30 , and I used to dip too , but I can't reccomend either as a cover scent . ;) |
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Too bad that skoal doesn't make a doe-in-heat flavored, then you guys that dip would really have an excuse to chew on stand. |
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Copenhagen and buck grub mix that should do it.
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