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DearSlayer357 03-16-2004 10:17 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Do you lift weights?

rybohunter 03-16-2004 10:21 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Lifting weights should help you to get past a sticking point.
Some of it may be mental. Have somebidy hand you a bow that you don't know what the weight is set at and see if you can pull it back

dEEzNutZ 03-16-2004 10:23 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
To add strength you may want to join a gym or get some free weights for at home and start a weight training program. Concentrating on upper body work such as arms, shoulders, and back can improve the amount you can draw.

Another exercise that could help would be to simply draw your bow and hold as long as possible...then rest....then repeat...etc. After time you'll not only be able to hold longer but you should be able to up the poundage that you can draw.

Hope this helps!

MA Jay 03-16-2004 10:24 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
My first recommendation would be to drop the vegetarian thing .. eat meat .. it creates muscle.

Second ... take the pocket protector out of your shirt, you could get hurt if your string ever got caught.

Third, ever do a push up? A pull up? How about pick something up heavier than your laptop?

Oh heck Bowman2213 .. you made that WAY to easy!!!!

Seriously .. start exercising. You can't lift more weight, or pull back more weight in your case without strengthening your muscles. You could even start shooting more as part of your exercise regime .. the more you shoot .. the easier it will get .. the more you could pull back. It's not rocket science.

You really don't have to pull more than you are .. but it must be tough getting pushed around by all the little old ladies .. sorry, couldn't resist.

Gryan 03-16-2004 10:24 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Are you pulling with your arms and not your back? You should be using the back muscles to do most of the work. A good pro shop can help you to check and develop this.

Greg

Rack-attack 03-16-2004 10:29 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
How often do you shoot?

How many arrows in a sesion?

LivinOffTheFattaTheLand 03-16-2004 10:53 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
WELL,

the obvious answer would be lift weights and shoot your bow more than a few times a year

Arthur P 03-16-2004 11:04 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Since you're already comfy at 60 pounds, get yourself a bow that draws 60 pounds at the low end of it's draw weight range. Try to shoot every other day. It's very important to allow your muscles a day of rest between sessions or you will impede your progress. Shooting only once a week or less will also impede your progress.

So, we'll assume you'll shoot every other day. Once a week, increase the draw weight by a half turn on the limb bolts. That lets your muscles adapt slowly and, unlike weight lifting, you'll be strengthening the specific muscles and supporting muscles you'll be using to shoot.

You'll be shooting 70 pounds within a couple months and likely won't ever notice the weight increase - except for probably needing stiffer spined arrows at some point.

And definitely concentrate on using those back muscles instead of the arms!

LivinOffTheFattaTheLand 03-16-2004 11:07 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
take arthur p's advice hes RIGHT ON TARGET

longbowman 03-16-2004 11:42 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
:DPulling more weight takes time but it can be developed regardless of your phyiscal size. Both me and my son shoot tournaments and hunt in all kinds of weather with 80# bows. The best exercise I've came up with are push ups. The other activity that uses the exact same muscle group is swimming. Since I sink I do the push-ups. Give it time and work a few pounds at a time and it will come. Remember, you will never shoot 70# if you only shoot 60# bows.

Techy 03-16-2004 11:50 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 

ORIGINAL: Arthur P

Since you're already comfy at 60 pounds, get yourself a bow that draws 60 pounds at the low end of it's draw weight range. Try to shoot every other day. It's very important to allow your muscles a day of rest between sessions or you will impede your progress. Shooting only once a week or less will also impede your progress.

So, we'll assume you'll shoot every other day. Once a week, increase the draw weight by a half turn on the limb bolts. That lets your muscles adapt slowly and, unlike weight lifting, you'll be strengthening the specific muscles and supporting muscles you'll be using to shoot.

You'll be shooting 70 pounds within a couple months and likely won't ever notice the weight increase - except for probably needing stiffer spined arrows at some point.

And definitely concentrate on using those back muscles instead of the arms!
I suggest this;)

leffler 03-16-2004 12:03 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
get a good sized dumbell and get on all fours on a bench or something similar and let your right? arm hang down and pull it staright up to the side of your chest. . . .. but dont bend the arm in , this will work your pec more than your back. . . . .or u could just shoot alot more and hold your bow as long as possible like deeznutz said

duckbill 03-16-2004 12:28 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
You say you're not a big fellow...well neither am I. I'm 5'9" 170lbs (10#'s overweight). I shoot comfortably at 65#'s, but I can draw a lot more than that. I don't work out much. I'm just wondering if you're using the right muscles. I like the advice of having a proshop help you out.
One thing that would concern me is if you can't pull back 70#'s, how do you HOLD 60#'s for any length of time? Some hunting scenarios can have you holding a draw for quite a long time.

NEWSHOOTER 03-16-2004 12:37 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Because your a "SALLY" :D;):eek:

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JimBow 03-16-2004 04:03 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
I shoot 70lbs and I am a big guy, 6' and weigh around 250lbs, yes I'm too heavy (FAT) but I also used to lift weights like mad so I only have a 36" belt line. Even with all that lifting I had a heck of a time drawing 60lbs when I restarted archery 5 years ago. My friends were amazed that I could't draw that much and I was embarrased.

I could do a bent over row with 110lbs of weight ( where you put one knee and one hand on a bench and draw a dumbell up to your armpit with your free arm). I thought this resembled drawing a bow ,but the position you are in when drawing a bow is hard to reproduce with free weights.

I went out and picked up a rubber band type bow arm excersiser from bass pro. with this I could work out alot more often than I could shoot, espically if you can't get to a place to shoot every day. I was supprised at how fast my bow drawing strength came up. Now I can draw a 70 pound bow silky smooth. and that's the goal . Herky jerky won't cut it .
Also make sure your form's correct, you may want someone who is experanced watch you draw. You'll be drawing that 100lb draw weight in no time.

Jim

MA Jay 03-16-2004 04:04 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Kick my ass Bowman2213????

Well then you better start your first week of training with a heavy snow boot on your kicking foot. When you can get it as high as your knee, try adding some light ankle weights ... keep up the training and within a few weeks or months you may be able to get your foot that high.

JK!!!

justhrowit 03-16-2004 06:07 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
I just think you need to grow a set!

Hiawatha 03-16-2004 06:16 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
this resistance training to your arm is important as mentioned previously but i do not think anyone has mentioned core stabililty yet. Your abdominal/obliques play a large part in drawing and maintaining draw for a long time. Lots of people forget all about this and concentrate on biceps, triceps, pecs, deltoids etc,....i am a phys ed student and i see this kind of thing everyday. you need to train more than one area to be effective......

pinesap 03-16-2004 08:15 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Chin ups, seated rows and push ups will help out alot. make sure to use good form.

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ShadowAce 03-17-2004 11:55 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 

ORIGINAL: Bowman2213

Good advice from some of you. Haven't lifted in quite some time and I guess I'll have to start back up. Trust me MAJay and newshooter I could drop both you chumps in a heartbeat and kick your ass with a bow LOL.
How can that be? You're just a "fawn":)

dunk50 03-17-2004 11:59 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Sorry! The real answer is you never will. Your a puss!;)

silentassassin 03-17-2004 12:42 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Bowman if it makes you feel any better the two guys that I hunt with are 5'9" 160 and 5'11" 160 and neither one works out and they both struggle with anything over 90 lbs;)

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BobCo196 5 03-17-2004 01:06 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 

A well place shot and 55lbs will take down Bigfoot if needed.
So, then, why are you concerned about being able to pull more then 60 pounds?

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MA Jay 03-17-2004 03:43 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
You may not be able to pull back over 60 lbs .. ..

but for posting a thread titled "Why can't I pull more weight?" you either have REAL thick skin or you forgot you were on the hunting.net forum and not the interiordecorators.com site again!

Swamp Dawg 03-17-2004 03:48 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 

ORIGINAL: Bowman2213

Would like a little flatter trajectory and speed on shots over 30 yds.

Buy a Bowtech Pat Dually and shoot 5 gpp at 60. This should get you well over 300 fps!

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Boone14622 03-17-2004 05:21 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
I don't know whats wrong with you man. I've been shooting the same 70# Bear Whitetail II since I was 15 and it only has 45-50% letoff. It all depends on your build. Some people build muscle quickly while others struggle, but it just takes time. Go out and shoot as many rounds as you can until you start loosing your proper form. Rest for 3-4 days and go out and do it all over again. After a few weeks you will notice that it takes a long time for you to tire. This is the time to increase your draw weight a few pounds. Pushups and dips work well for me. They really hit the chest and triceps. Also curls and bent rows for the back and biceps. Got to have some balance. 30-40 mintues 3 times a week of cardiovascular wouldn't hurt you either. It will increase your bloodflow and endurance. Happy Hunting

kevin8989 03-17-2004 06:59 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
the most i have pulled is 94 lbs and hunted with 81lbs. but an am also 6'8" and 250lbs. thats pretty good sized. with todays bows you dont need all that draw weight. ted nugent hunts with 55 lbs in north america nad in africa he bumps it up to 65lbs. 65 should be all you need. now i pull 70lbs it feels great to me.

Boone14622 03-17-2004 08:05 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Heck Kevin, at 6'8", you don't even need a treestand do you?

Rack-attack 03-17-2004 08:26 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Note to self:

Never, I mean never tell the world if you have a problem drawing a bow back:)
Just suck it up - point to the sky and PULL man PULL.......................:D

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Swamp Dawg 03-17-2004 08:37 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
LOL at Rack-attack. That was funny:).

Poluke 03-17-2004 11:11 PM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
I'm five eight and 145 lbs I pull 65 lbs on my bow NOW. When I started i had serious problems with 50#. However I kept at it and now I'm cranking it up every two weeks. I started with a goal, 20 arrows a day seven days a week (minutes and hours didn't matter). To date at 65 lbs I am shooting 60 to 100 arrows a day (still no matter to minutes or hours) and have a goal of 60 to 100 shots a day until I get to 70#. The pain I felt was worth the progress I made. Now I have no pain and am cranking it up 3lbs for next months regimen. Also I am shooting at 18 yards (that's as much room as my back yard allows SAFELY and hitting the 10 ring consistently (my ten ring is the plastic top off a "I can't believe its not butter tub") pinned to an Eternity target. Whatever you can glean from this post is yours for encouragement. Keep at it you will experience success.

Pinwheel 12 03-18-2004 04:24 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
The real answer is quite simple, in fact it is a question...WHY do you want to pull more than you're capable of to begin with? My advice is to drop the bow to 55lbs (or buy one that maxes out there) and shoot it. You will be more comfortable, and more of your shots will be accurate shots. I personally used to regularly shoot bows well over 90lbs back when I was young and stupid just for a faster arrow and to be "muy macho", but the fact is is that nowadays you can get decent speed with a carbon arrow, and todays' bows develop more energy than those of yesteryear, so we do not need to worry about KE all that much either unless targeting very large game.

My advice is to shoot what is comfortable for you, and don't worry one bit that you cannot comfortably pull 70 lbs.

If it makes you feel any better towards the guys who can pull 70lbs, back when we used to pull 90+ lbs anyone who shot "only" 70lbs was a wuss![8D] Bottom line is to not worry about it and shoot what is comfortable to you, and kick their tails on the range if you so choose--- when hunting it simply doesn't matter unless you are going for Rhino, Cape Buffalo, or other massive game. I sell more 60lb bows in my shop than I do 70's, those "muy Macho" days are dwindling because people are now learning to get set up correctly and learning to shoot what is comfortable instead of "I HAVE to shoot a 70lber or my friends will break my nads" . That's just stupid.

#1 rule---Tune the bow to YOU, Not tune YOU to the bow. Your shooting will improve dramatically if you follow this rule and forget about the scale. Good shooting, Pinwheel 12

PABowhntr 03-18-2004 06:07 AM

RE: Why can't I pull more weight?
 
Some good suggestions here...and some really smart a... comments as well. I hope some of you guys know this gent and if not then this is one heck of a baptism by fire...;).

Two thoughts came to mind as I read through this. One, P12 is correct and so is Arthur. Shoot what feels comfortable for you now and gradually work your way up in draw weight slowly over a long period of time. This will give your muscles a chance to develop accordingly.

Second, 60 lbs is not necessarily 60 lbs when you are referencing the wide variety of bows out there today. The cam style, specifically, can make one bow more difficult to pull (or easier) than another. I would suggest trying out two bows. The first bow should have a relatively easy drawing cam but be a 70 lb peak draw weight bow. The second bow should have a much stiffer cam but be a 60 lb peak draw weight bow.

See which one you prefer to shoot and go from there. Speaking of which...which bow are you shooting now?


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