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WV Hunter 02-26-2004 11:11 AM

RE: VERY interesting article on QDM
 

I have heard so many times that in order to see bigger and better bucks it's simple.........all you do is not shoot the young ones.

Guess not.

Wow.
Thats only part of it. It's not as cut and dry as that.

Yes, if you let the small ones walk, you will see more bigger and better bucks... period. Will they all stay on your land? Nope, but some will. The majority of buck dispersal is by 1.5 yr olds. Once they "find" their core area...they tend to hang around for the duration.
The one way for sure that you will not see bigger and better bucks, is to shoot every buck that walks by.

trophyhuntr 02-26-2004 11:22 AM

RE: VERY interesting article on QDM
 
excellent article, great post

silentassassin 02-26-2004 11:55 AM

RE: VERY interesting article on QDM
 

I have heard so many times that in order to see bigger and better bucks it's simple.........all you do is not shoot the young ones.
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Who did you hear that from? If you shoot the young ones how are they going to get bigger? I never heard of a dead deer growing bigger. I personally have never heard that. I think you might have misunderstood.

I don't think the article negates many of the premises of QDM or at least the objectives of most hunters, which is to grow bigger bucks. In fact I think it enforced them. What most guys want to do is make the bucks on their property bigger. If the bucks have already dispersed on to your propert then they probably aren't going to leave until they die. So with the benefit of food plots and protein supplements, they should get much bigger. Instead of shooting them when they first disperse onto your property (6-18 months old) let them get a few years of high quality nutrition on them (since they aren't going anywhere anyway) and you should have some good bucks. I believe that is most peoples philosophy anyway. Age + Nutrition = Bigger Bucks

Stump_MN_Hunter 02-26-2004 12:15 PM

RE: VERY interesting article on QDM
 
Great post and very interesting. But to those who think that QDM is BS, I have an equation(sp?) for you. Ok here we go.....You shoot all the little bucks/buttons.....your neighbor shoots all the little bucks/buttons....his neighbor shoots all the little bucks/buttons. Sooner or later there ARE NONE!!!! "God Bob....we're just not seein any bucks...I wonder why". Now tell me QDM isn't good. Anyone can come up with all the mumbo-jumbo that they want and back it up with "scientific date", about why it isn't good. But those people need to step out of the box and look at the grand picture a bit IMO. Granted, my example is a little extreme, but does probably happen in heavy hunted areas. But you get my point. I think. :D

Rack-attack 02-26-2004 12:18 PM

RE: VERY interesting article on QDM
 

once the young bucks had dispersed, they generally remained within their new home range until death
So once you have a 1-1/2 year old spike on your land he is there to death.

Its up to you if you want him dead at 1.5 or 5.5.

Thats sounds clear enough to me:eek:

Cman 02-26-2004 12:21 PM

RE: VERY interesting article on QDM
 
The article makes quite a few points, however, let's not disregard the fact that research studies such as this one can only be relied upon if a number of other studies have produced the same general data over a lengthy period of time. And then everyone has to agree that the studies were performed based upon solid methodology.

Basically, what I'm saying is - "Just because buttons disperse from a 3,000 acre range to other ranges from 1-4 miles away in MARYLAND does'nt necessarily mean that buttons will do the same in Kansas."

jsasker 02-26-2004 12:25 PM

RE: VERY interesting article on QDM
 
SILENT,
I think someone did misunderstand:eek:

atlasman 02-26-2004 01:44 PM

RE: VERY interesting article on QDM
 

ORIGINAL: silentassassin

Who did you hear that from? If you shoot the young ones how are they going to get bigger? I never heard of a dead deer growing bigger. I personally have never heard that. I think you might have misunderstood.
Read it again silent. I said to see bigger bucks you should NOT shoot the young ones. It appears you have misunderstood.



I don't think the article negates many of the premises of QDM or at least the objectives of most hunters, which is to grow bigger bucks. In fact I think it enforced them.
I don't know too many places out there practicing QDM that want to see come back to camp with a button strapped to the tailgate.



What most guys want to do is make the bucks on their property bigger. If the bucks have already dispersed on to your propert then they probably aren't going to leave until they die. So with the benefit of food plots and protein supplements, they should get much bigger. Instead of shooting them when they first disperse onto your property (6-18 months old) let them get a few years of high quality nutrition on them (since they aren't going anywhere anyway) and you should have some good bucks. I believe that is most peoples philosophy anyway. Age + Nutrition = Bigger Bucks
This article makes a point that this very thing is in fact much more dependent on your neighbors then most people think IMO. Since they are talking about a plot that is 3,000 acres in size I would think it effects small land owners exponentially. Not shooting your young bucks has less importance then luring wandering bucks to settle in for life.

silentassassin 02-26-2004 01:48 PM

RE: VERY interesting article on QDM
 

Read it again silent. I said to see bigger bucks you should NOT shoot the young ones. It appears you have misunderstood.
It appears that you are right[:-]:eek::D What can I say my hooked on phonix teacher was hooked on crack[:'(][:@]:D

atlasman 02-26-2004 01:51 PM

RE: VERY interesting article on QDM
 

ORIGINAL: Stump_MN_Hunter

Great post and very interesting. But to those who think that QDM is BS
I don't think anyone said or implied QDM is BS.


No one is saying it isn't good...........the article does point out a few things that seem to go against common theories on the matter though.

I am sure many hunters out there either don't shoot does because they want more deer and/or don't shoot any young bucks because they think they all hang around like the Brady Bunch with big racks. A lot of people also talk about big bucks passing on their strong genetics to the herd through breeding.........this also now seems less important when you see how many young bucks get outta dodge.

Your neighbors will love you for it though.


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