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avid_bowhunter2005 01-28-2004 09:53 AM

Ridiculous changes.....
 
I support preserving wildlife and all. ( afterall, I'm going to college for it;)), but Ohio has just taken it too far. They are raising the prices of everything (if you haven't heard already), and a lot of people are unhappy. If you haven't heard, check out this link.

http://www.ohiodnr.com/wildlife/News...rease_0703.htm

WV Hunter 01-28-2004 10:02 AM

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AB, I don't think they are hitting you too hard. $4 here and there, plus they are lowering the cost of the youth fees. Sounds like an ok trade to me. Plus it's all for the good anyhow. :)

avid_bowhunter2005 01-28-2004 10:04 AM

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I hunt with the Officer for Highland county and he told me more raises are to come.. so just keep your eyes open...;) Pretty soon they will make a mistake and we might be happy for our kids, but we might just have to watch them do all of the hunting. (if you have kids, if you don't your out of luck):D;)

adams 01-28-2004 10:21 AM

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reylamb 01-28-2004 10:23 AM

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Where exactly in the US Constitution is the mandate to support individual state's hunting and DNR offices? It is a state issue and always should have been.

deadshot 01-28-2004 11:05 AM

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avid doesnt sound to bad to me, i wish my state had come up with a better plan than what they did, i believe the citizens of michigan would rather of had a increase in hunting an fishing licenses, rather than what we got, instead here they decided to cut the school budgets, for example i live in a fairly small town cedar springs and our school budget was cut by 287.000 dollars, so it seems our children here are the ones to suffer well my 2cents worth deadshot

Charlie P 01-28-2004 11:44 AM

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Compare the price of a license to going to the movies or taking your kids to McDonalds or a nice steak dinner and bottle of wine.

davidmil 01-28-2004 11:46 AM

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It isn't that much money dude. You pay that much to take a family of 3 to the movies for a couple hours.... that's if you don't buy popcorn. With your hunting license you get a whole season of fun and superb outdoor entertainment. Quit your whinning and be glad you can still go hunting. Get out and enjoy and put the miserable 4 bucks behind you. Cheeesseee:eek::eek: Heck, I pay $250 to go hunting 6 or 7 days a year in NY. My Maryland license is free because I've taught Hunter Ed classes for at least 5 consecutive years and at least 2 classes in the past year.

Danny45 01-28-2004 12:14 PM

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We can thank G.W. for this. By cutting state budgets he's forcing state to transfer to cost to the public(us). These programs were under funded when he took office and he just continuse to slash budgets to fund his wars and "tax cuts". Unless we can get the Whitehouse to declare big game animals "enemy combatants" we can only expect this to get worse.

You can't blame the DNR for doing what it takes to keep upand running. I'd suggest looking higher up the ladder.But, It's 2004 and we can change this

That's the funniest thing I've read all week. I sure hope it was in jest.

I think you better look at the Governor of your State and the State House of Reps and State Senate. They are the ones who determine your State's budget year to year. And they are usually (depending on the State) the ones to approve increases for the DNR or whatever.

I don't want to turn this guy's thread into a political debate, but, just because the democraps are keeping quiet now, don't think that they won't try to enact more gun control laws once they are in office. They're just smarter than Gore and Clinton right now by not voicing their intentions. We all know that's what really cost Gore the election, his and Clinton's views on guns.



avid......., It's always a pain when the fees go up. But, when you stop to think about what it's going for, and how the money is used, it's not too bad. Pittman-Robertson Act is not the answer to all. Out of all the money it collects, only a percentage is given to any one State, and that percentage is determined by how many licenses are sold in that State. Not really fair when you consider how many licenses are sold in Rhode Island compared to how many are sold in Colorado. You'd think that each State would get to keep the money that is spent in their State, but it doesn't. In fact, I guess it's feasible that a State could receive less back from P-R than from what is actually spent in their state. A State with 500 license holders spending over $1,000,000.00 won't get back as big a percentage as a State that has 1000 license holders spending $500,000.00. The system is good, but could use some tweaking.

Arthur P 01-28-2004 12:28 PM

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We can thank G.W. for this.
Actually, I thought it was Slick Willie and his Democrat cronies and their raids on the Pittman/Robertson funds that are to blame. How soon we forget...[:'(]

Charlie P 01-28-2004 01:35 PM

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That waas what I was going to mention during Clintons adm. They actually took the funds and gave some of it to anti hunting groups.

Charlie P 01-28-2004 01:44 PM

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By cutting state budgets he's forcing state to transfer to cost to the public(us).
The tax money comes from us too. He doesn't cut state budgets, he reduces federal money coming to the states.All of this money comes from tax payers.

Which of the dems do you think will give more money to your States DEC?

Clinton closed many area's completely no hunting allowed. Wouldn't let any type of logging go on. Which actually helps the animal populations by thinning the forest canopy. So nature took care of it the way it has for 1,000's of years by burning. Ask the guys who tried putting out the fires if Clintons policies helped them in their jobs. Sorry to go off topic.

billy8point 01-28-2004 03:01 PM

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Isn't this the second year in a row they've done this? I think they raised them last year. I'm not trying to complain, I actually think lowering the youth licenses may get more youth into the hunting tradition.

jimpok61 01-28-2004 03:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: davidmil

It isn't that much money dude. You pay that much to take a family of 3 to the movies for a couple hours.... that's if you don't buy popcorn. With your hunting license you get a whole season of fun and superb outdoor entertainment. Quit your whinning and be glad you can still go hunting. Get out and enjoy and put the miserable 4 bucks behind you. Cheeesseee:eek::eek: Heck, I pay $250 to go hunting 6 or 7 days a year in NY. My Maryland license is free because I've taught Hunter Ed classes for at least 5 consecutive years and at least 2 classes in the past year.
[8D] $250 for 6 or 7 days. Ouch. Maybe we can hook up next yr. when you're heading north. Joe and me would consider it an honor to hunt with the butt hangin arrow slinger. We shall be in them Dacks!!! Jim

CLOUD 9, MN 01-28-2004 08:46 PM

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When it gets right down to it, most states hunting and fishing licenses are a pretty good deal. I don't think those increases are a big deal........as long as they go for hunting and fishing (dnr) activities. In many states, if they raised a license $4, maybe $1 might go to DNR activites(making hunting and fishing better) That SUCKS! Hopefully your increase will all be used wisely, not for some bogus non-effective program.

GOOD LUCK!

TFOX 01-28-2004 11:11 PM

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The last increase was in 1994.I wish everything would only increase 5% every 10 years.Hell,prescription drugs is hitting us for something like 15% a year.


No,they haven't gone too far,just covering cost.It is called inflation and I wish my shop would have a little and give me a raise.I make less a year now than I did 5 years ago.Thanks China.[:o]

rcd567 01-29-2004 11:35 AM

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A few years back South Dakota raised their non resident annual fishing permit from 30 dollars a season, to 60 dollars a season. And they haven't looked back. Rumor has it they are about to raise it again. Shoot, I'd have jumped for joy if they only raised it 4 bucks..

Course now that their going to drain the great reservoirs to save a couple of sand birds and a minnow. Be kinda hard to sell licenses without the reservoirs, but hey, who am I?

Sorry about the rant, I know this is a bowhunting forum, but I sometimes get enflamed.


Dubbya 01-29-2004 04:39 PM

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avid: i agree completely I don't know if they have a lifetime hunting license where you live or not, but I'm definately trying to buy one. it's the only saving grace for higher license prices.

ARMallardSlayer 01-29-2004 07:04 PM

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plus they are lowering the cost of the youth fees.
The youth shouldn't have to pay a dime!

In AR, the kids don't need a fishing or hunting license until they reach 16 years old....

bow_huntr 01-29-2004 07:33 PM

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For $19 here in MO you can get #1 and #2 turkey tags, antlered deer, and antlerless,move to MO good hunting.Unfortunatly I'm moving to SC in a couple weeks, I think I'll have enough time to get the Outback or one of the Bowtechs good n' sighted


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