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bobcat 10 01-19-2004 07:51 PM

single pin advantages and disadvantages
 
i have a 3 pin sight wright now..i do not like having three pins to many......


on a single pin sight ...................what yards do you shoot with a single pin...
i will be shooting out to 30 yards.........
need advice on the single pin sight........the whole low down

bobcat 10 01-19-2004 08:52 PM

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does anybody shoot a single pin......

Angus74 01-19-2004 09:21 PM

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I shoot a single pin moveable sight, but when Im hunting I just live it set on about 25 yards, that covers me out to 30 pretty good. If I have a lot of time before the shot Ill move the sight to the exact yardage but if theres not much time and its within 30 yards or so, I can make the shot just fine with it set at 25.

CLOUD 9, MN 01-19-2004 09:31 PM

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I shoot single pin. I sight in my bow at 20 yards and thats where that pin stays for hunting! I do shoot alittle 3D and for fun out to 50 yards so I do have additional markings, but for hunting I just keep it at 20 yards. 20 yards gives me from about 0 to 23 yards I'm right on. If I have a 30 yard shot I aim about 3 1/2" high. I actually aim for the spine or bottom of the spine at 30 yards. When shooting 1 pin you learn very quickly how high to aim for a shot, but most are right on.

Good Luck!

bobcat 10 01-19-2004 09:36 PM

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what are some real good single pin sights.....price range 40 bucks.......

fireman3fan 01-19-2004 09:45 PM

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I just changed to trophy ridge sight and carbon arrows. When I sighted my ow in I started at 10 yards with the top pin, after getting it set I moved back to 15 and shot, then 20, 25 and finally 35 yards. During all of this the only pin I used was the first one, my 10 yard pin, so although I have more pins I only use one from 10 to 35 yards.

bobcat 10 01-19-2004 09:47 PM

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cloud 9 at 10 yards do you aim a little low......

CLOUD 9, MN 01-19-2004 09:48 PM

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HHA Optimizer Lite ( they have a bunch of models) and the Impact Archery Cosmic. These are high Quality adjustable sights!

Good Luck!

Angus74 01-19-2004 09:50 PM

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I shoot an Impact Cosmic I love it, another good one is the HHA Optimizer, both work well but cost a little more than 40 dollars, I think about 60 or so, or check out some classifieds on the net or ebay. They are both made strong and quiet and hold up well to hunting and abuse.

bobcat 10 01-19-2004 09:50 PM

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thanks.....

bobcat 10 01-19-2004 10:10 PM

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angus 74 do you aim a little low at 10 yards......will the arrow rise.

buckeye 01-19-2004 10:27 PM

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I use 1 pin out to 40 yards.

Sight you bow 1-2 inches high at 10 yards.
You should be dead on to an inch or so high at 20 depending on your arrow speed.

If you sight in your pins like this you will be covered out to around 25 yards with out having to compinsate any difference. Just place your pin on the lungs and shoot!!! Good luck.

Big Country 01-20-2004 02:47 AM

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Angus 74 is correct....those sights cost more than 40 bucks. They are good though.

Check out the Cobra Easy Slide sight also. I actually prefer it over the other two, but it is just a personal preference.

I am pretty sure they are all in the same price range....60-70 bucks.

If you check out the Cobra, and decide you might want to try a good used one, send me an e-mail. I have several of them.

doughboysigep 01-20-2004 08:55 AM

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I have used 1 pin for the past 5 years. I liked the simplicity if it and had it set at 20 yards (figured that would be the distance i'd be shooting at).
As i understatnd it, (for most bows) the 20 yard pin will be dead on at 10 yards (the way the arrow flies). I did practice some at 30 yards and could get withing 8" or so, but probably wouldn't have evere shot at that distance. At shorter distances (15 yds)
With all that said I think I will be putting at least 3 pins on my new bow (15, 20, 30 yards) to take away some of the guess work.

avid_bowhunter2005 01-20-2004 09:53 AM

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I shoot 2 pins, but if i had to go with only one on my sight, i know that the 10 to 20 yard pin is about 1 quarter inch apart almost exactly. It all depends on the sight you have and the bow you are shooting.;)

adams 01-20-2004 01:29 PM

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I shoot a single pin set at 20yds. This is sufficent to shoot to 30 yards with very little adjustment on shot placement. I find that with 3 or more pins on my bow they tend to overlap and "clutter" my view when I'm setteling in on a target. I never shoot beyond 30 yards give or take a yard or two so additional pins aren't needed. Also, I shoot enough through out the year if I had to make a longer shot I could easily adjust out to about 40 yards.

The off season is a time to play around with equipment and tinker with thing that just don't feel right. Strip off your other pins and give it a shot. I'm sure you'll like it better and if I'm wrong you'll have all summer to get those pins back on.

Shootem up870 01-20-2004 03:19 PM

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less confusion if u have a single pin. i have actually completely forgot how far i was when i was practicing and used my 10 yard pin at 20 yards. shot 3 times before i figured out wut the h*ll was going on

bobcat 10 01-20-2004 06:32 PM

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will this work if i take off my other two pins and just use one.....but it don't look like a single pin sight.......i don't see why it won't work.......this is what my sight looks like wright now....

Angus74 01-20-2004 09:38 PM

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It will work if you take off two of your pins, and then set the one pin for the yardage you want to shoot. If you can hold off of the 30 plus yardshots, Id set for 25. You will be about two inches high at ten yards and about one or two low at 30, depending on your arrow speed. If your bow shoots fast, those numbers will be even closer.

bobcat 10 01-20-2004 09:57 PM

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thanks.....angus74

jsasker 01-21-2004 06:34 AM

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DOUGHBOYSIGEP,
You say "as you understand a 20 yd pin will be dead on at 10 yds and you get within 8" at 30yds"---why would you set your 3 pins at 15,20 &30 yards?You just said you can do that with one pin!Maybe i misread or misunderstood what you were saying?

doughboysigep 01-21-2004 10:40 AM

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that is what i said.
so the 20 yard pin gets me 20 yds & 10 yds
everything else I am just "guessing" - 15 yards isn't much of a stretch (however not thinking/getting a bit excited when I shot my 1st - only - buck i spined him at 15 yds)
the 30 yds is a different story - by guessing (i figured about 6"high), there is a lot of room for error (i don't think 8" is too awefull good) - that's why I wouldn't normally shoot 30 yds. - with a pin for 30, I hope to get those 8" groups much smaller and more consistent and have more confidence with the longer shot if it ever presents itself

jsasker 01-21-2004 11:04 AM

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I see what you're getting at and hopefully that will work for you.I myself used multiple pin sights and would go brain dead at the moment of truth using the wrong pin on more than one occasion--went to a single pin and love it!Whatever works for ya.

bobcat 10 01-21-2004 05:18 PM

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i'm going with the single pin.......

WV Hunter 01-21-2004 06:13 PM

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bobcat
I've shot 1 pin for a while. Mine is sighted in at 20. I've got everything covered from up close out to 25 without having to compensate. Mine drops some out beyond 25 so I just hold high if need be. I usually don't shoot more than 25 anyhow, so it works for me.
Save the money and take off two of the pins form your sight. Where to sight your pin in at really depends on what your range will be, and how your bow is set up. A good place to start is 20. Then shoot at all the distances both sides of it and see how you do. You can go from there. Good luck:)

CLOUD 9, MN 01-21-2004 07:44 PM

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bobcat10.............no I don't aim low. From 10 yard its only off by alittle less than an inch. Make it simple! When you practice you learn very quickly. The only shot you have to make a small adjustment is staight below you broadside ( a shot I don't take anyway) But practice your shots anywhere!


Good Luck!

fuzzjocky2 01-21-2004 09:43 PM

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I have shot a single pin for about 10 years now my top pin is set at 27 yards it is the only pin i hunt with i have a 40 yard pin and a 80 yard pin on my site that i practice with i aim low heart shot on all the deer i shoot at 27 yards and closer dead deer, 28 and out clean miss. Use a 6 inch paper plate put a dot on the bottom of the plate start at 3 yards and aim at the dot using your 20 yard pin walk back several yards and using the same pin shoot at the dot do this until you shoot below the dot adjust your pin so that at no time will you shoot above the plate before you shoot below the dot i have a friend that i set up this way and he shoot a single pin out to 35 yards also you will find that you will hit close to dead on at 3 yards and shoot you highest around the 18 to 20 yard mark

davidmil 01-21-2004 10:08 PM

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I know it can be done with one pin... but, I really like being able to say I was dead on or off when I shoot. I think having a pin every 10 yards lessens the impact of range estimation errors. If I say it's 30 and it's 34 or 35 I will probably still get a hit. I'm not sure that would happen if I'm using a 20 yard pin(for which I would have to guestimate hold over) and I'm already guessing range... It's just more precise to have my 20, 30 and 40 yard pins. And yes, I'll shoot in a minute at 40 if the right target presents itself. I'll wait if I think I may get a better look, but if it isn't going to happen..... I'm shooting. I know you can become accustomed to hold over. I do it myself even with my pins at every 10 yards. I'll fudge up or down with a pin for odd ranges at like 24 or 28 or something like that... but it's done with at least ONE known... where precisely to aim. Now all I have to do is have the range correct. For those who say they like one pin because they don't want to use the wrong one in the heat of the moment..... that's called Buck Fever.:D;)[:-]

Another point... if I'm shooting at 260 fps my arrow would be 20 and 1/2 inches low at 40 yards if I used my 20 yard pin. That would be a heck of a lot of hold over to calculate in the woods in a hurry. I want to hit closer than "The Deer Somewhere".

oniedaeagle 01-22-2004 09:11 AM

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i use a single pin sighted in a 23 yards flat out to 30 276 fps had great luck with one pin only thing i suggest is use a green pin great for low light only thing for me green is blury midday when sunny

zzzzzzzzzzz 01-22-2004 03:43 PM

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I use a single pin for one reason when that buck comes in and you draw you dont have to say what pin do I use. with my luck I dont need anything else to go wrong.:D:D:D

davidmil 01-22-2004 05:22 PM

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I use a single pin for one reason when that buck comes in and you draw you dont have to say what pin do I use.
That comes from not practicing enough to become "One with the Arrow". If you can get confused by 2 pins I bet a set of horns out past the ears would really confuse you.[:o][:-] Some call it buck fever.[&:][8D]:D;)

NY Bowhunter 01-22-2004 05:32 PM

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I don't know if you can pin it all on buck fever david. What if you're not comfortable at estimating ranges?? I can see how people want to use 1 pin and take the guess work out of it. Some people just have a tough time estimating range. I've second guessed myself about yardage more than once and I've seen plenty of bucks come in my wheelhouse in my time as I'm sure you have. And I'll tell you I'm well over buck fever!!
I can relate to the single pin although I don't use it now. It's kinda like a "tweener" in golf. 148 to the pin. Hit a hard 9 and draw it in?? It may get caught up in the wine if I don't flush it, maybe I should hit a soft 8 and cut it into the wind??? hmmmmmmmmmmmm stuck in the middle. And that's when you usually make an unforced error.

zzzzzzzzzzz 01-22-2004 08:15 PM

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Earlier this year I took a shot at a 6 pointer that was 40 yards away I tryed calling to get him to come closer but he wouldnt so I had only one shot I aimed high because my pin is set for 25 yards I did miss but I wasnt far off my shot was right in line of the kill zone but it was in front of him. the deer jumped back and then ran off.:D:D;)

timbow2 01-22-2004 09:14 PM

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I agree with DavidMill on this one. Another disadvantage to one pin is say a deer shows up at 30 yds and say theres a branch hanging down between you at 10 yds. If you plces your one pin say set at 25 or whatever a little high on the deer its going to appear as though you will clear the branch and have a straight line to the deer. But you will hit the branch and your arrow will be gone. with a 10 yd pin on your sight you would see that the 10 pin was settled on the branch and although your 25 yd pin was on the deer you arrow will hit where the ten is settled first. I speak from experience on this one.

bobcat 10 01-22-2004 09:17 PM

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i shot with one pin today......i like it..........

davidmil 01-23-2004 04:40 AM

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I shoot ONE PIN............................................at a time.:D

silentassassin 01-23-2004 06:22 AM

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I shoot a one pin sight for the very reasons david mentions. Sometimes things happen quick fast in a hurry when you are deer hunting and I don't always stay composed enough to pick the right pin. Therefore, I shoot a one move moveable sight that allows me to make yardage changes and still shoot a one pin sight. I have also found that adjusting my yardage allows me to take my mind off the task at hand and relax that extra little bit.

davidmil 01-23-2004 07:47 AM

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I have also found that adjusting my yardage allows me to take my mind off the task at hand and relax that extra little bit.
I can see where there might be some of that in the equation.

doughboysigep 01-23-2004 08:20 AM

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It would seem that when you are hunting and a deer comes in there isn't much time or opportunity to adjust a sight (ie - make a lot of movements) and then say you adjust for 25 yards and the deer presents a shot a 15?? Seems a bit difficult.

NY Bowhunter 01-23-2004 08:28 AM

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I agree that seems way too dificult. I'd rather be concentrating on the task at hand and every breathe he is taking and not moving my stinking pin!!


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