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Mossberg fan 01-19-2004 01:27 PM

Heating Carbon arrows?
 
Can you heat up carbon arrows at the insert to turn the insert so the broadhead is lined up with the vanes? I know you can with aluminum, but I didn't know about carbon? Thanks!

tabby 01-19-2004 01:29 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
I did it. Didn't seem to have any problems. Just be careful.

slippery 01-19-2004 03:34 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
not recommended, cabon arrows are like plastic, you can melt them

Rauch 01-19-2004 03:39 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
i tried and the arrow splintered and changed colors but i did it with a blow torch LOL oops but i talked to the guy at the bow shop he said that he would definaitley not recomend it because the arrow can weaken with out you knowing and the front end of the arrow could snap off when it hits the target so they would be little or no penetration i dont know how true it is but it was enough to keep me from doing it

Epuller 01-19-2004 04:12 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
I reshaft and custom build Golf clubs for entertainment and some freinds, and heating Graphite or composite shafts of any kind is not recommended. Golf club shafts are manufactured and made of similar materials.
In golf club repair or replacement we only heat the adhesive bond that is attaching the composite to the steel/titanium.
What generally holds the tips in shafts is an adhesive bond of some short. Glue. When you heat it (only using a Heat Gun) the bond is now no longer going to hold its original properties.
If you heat the Arrow shaft tip, use a buffer. A foam covering or something to block direct heat onto the shaft.
For best results, remove the tip, and reinsert with adhesive. This way you decide on where the Broadhead is positioned.

ARMallardSlayer 01-19-2004 04:38 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
Not a good idea.

If you get it too hot, it toast!

DavidPaul007 01-19-2004 04:57 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
Well...I'm a baby archer so I have what might seem like a dumb question:
Why do you want your broadhead lined up with the fletching?? Just thinking about it I can't reason that it would make any differnce in the flight of the arrow...but experience is king. Please inform me.

BGfisher 01-19-2004 06:00 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
007, believe me, it's a personal thing. You are right in your assumption that it doesn't make any difference whether the blades align with the fletch or not. If yuou want proof then ask someone how they line up a four blade head with the three fletches on the shaft. DUH!!!!!!!!!

Mossy fan, if you are that concerned there is a way to do it without heating things up. Just strip the vanes/feathers off, re-index your nock and put new fletch on.

Mossberg fan 01-19-2004 06:04 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
No, I am not that concered anymore, the only reason I was, was because i heard it from someone that it is a good idea and I don't know why. So now that I know that it doesn't matter, I won't worry about it.

Mossy_Oak_Bounty_Hunter 01-19-2004 07:13 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
if your going to heat them up with a torch, put a feild tip in the arrow, heat the feild tip, flame and carbon - bad but the heat coming from the insert will melt the glue before it hurts the arrow

drstalker 01-19-2004 08:34 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
Most inserts are glued in with two part epoxy on carbons,and it doesn't react like hot melt glues.Indexing vanes with broadheads is not nessessary.Like BGfisher said though if you are that concerned do what he recomended.Bill D>

PABowhntr 01-20-2004 09:44 AM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
I definitely would not recommend it. I have seen folks "get away with it" but why take the chance?

As for the fletching/broadhead blade alignment issue....I once did it myself but found that it did not really compensate for a bow that was not well tuned or for arrow components that were not correctly in line.

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jetblast 01-20-2004 02:18 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
I wouldn't apply heat to a carbon shaft. But what I do is use a gun cleaning rod that fits the insert thread. Apply heat to the cleaning rod and the heat will transfer to the insert and then glue. Apply a slight continual pulling pressure to the rod and shaft (using pliers on the rod). Once the glue is soft enough to release, the insert will come out and minimizing the time any heat is applied to the shaft. If the "glue" is two-part epoxy, you're probably screwed and will not be able to do anything. The shaft will get too hot. If it's to align the broadhead with the vanes only (and this is another topic), IMHO, it's not worth the time and serves no improvement on arrow flight.

tabby 01-20-2004 06:38 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
Ummm. I must have gotten lucky. The reason I did it was not to aline (?) the vanes and blades, but to straighten out the tip. It was off center and spinning wildly.

hunter9022 01-20-2004 06:39 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
like mossy oak hunter said, put a heated field tip in the insert part way, heat again, screw all the way down, and heat the tip a little more, eventually it will slip a little and you can pull the insert out.

vc1111 01-20-2004 09:23 PM

RE: Heating Carbon arrows?
 
Been doing it for years, no problems at all.

The field tip trick works fine...just go easy, don't over heat it. Keep testing the field tip with a pair of pliers to see when the insert is loosened up.


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