The Facts
 

All of us on this board want to be prepared for confrontations with PETA-type wackos as well as those on the fence. I would like the board to put a link to a set of "talking points" that we can all use as ammunition or to sway the fence sitters. Those who know the facts, please post them here and maybe someone can compile them and have a link like the faq's or something so we present a united front. I think that it would be very helpful for all of us. I don't care if you cut and paste from a book or other web site. Let's just put the necessary facts all in one place for all of us.

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Thats a great idea... i don't have any great stingers so i would like to hear some good facts too.

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Just tell them that if God had not intended us to hunt and eat them then he would not have made them out of meat.

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He wouldn't have given us canine teeth either.

That's an awesome idea. I would love to see that too. The more ammo we have the better fight we can uphold.

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The first talking point.

Are you a vegetatrian? If not they have no leg to stand on.

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Forget about the vegetarian because nearly all vegetarians use some kind of animal products. They just don't eat it. Ask them if they are vegan. These guys are the real hard core "I won't use anything that uses animals" people.

Most folks would be really surprised at what products actually use animal products. Like their make up that they use every day to look pretty.

Here is a short list of some products that use animal by-products.

anything made of plastic like combs, brushes, tooth brushes, the computer we and they are typing on, etc....
tooth paste
heart valves that save lives, a majority of them come from pigs
shirt buttons
shoes
ice cream
yogurt
chewing gum
marshmellows
drugs (the legal kind)
cosmetics
lotion
candles
walpaper
glues
glass
car tires
antifreeze
oil
paint
dog and cat food

I'll see if I can find some more later.

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I like to ask if they walk everywhere, or if they use a vehicle. If they indicate that they drive a vehicle, I ask how they manage to get from Point A to Point B without slaughtering thousands of insects, on their windshield. Who are they to say that an insect's life is worth less than that of a deer, or chicken, or mink... whatever? :)

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Don't have any snappy comebacks, but I remember a quote from somebody. "I didn't spend all these years at the top of the food chain just to become a vegetarian"

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Good points here. The vegetarians drive me nuts too and I will use the animal by-product info!

What about plants? They are living and many have to be killed obviously to eat them! So, kill the plants = no big deal, but kill the cute little deer = bad? I don't get it? Kill the insects while driving, "well I didn't do that intentionaly?" I say, well, you acknowledged it and didn't do anything with it. What use did you get out of the corpse of that bug after seeing it had died in vain???? These wackos just don't make any sense at all to me.

I need to go find some duct tape now to make sure my head doesn't explode!

TBO

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Another little tid bit.

How many animals like snakes, mice, small birds, and millions of insects get to die under the wheels and blades of the combines and tractors that are used to harvest the vegetables that they eat? How many animals and insects die because of the insectacides that are used.