What would you do?
 

Im left with no choice. Its 2 times now. My best friend has shot a 1.5 old 5 pointer and a yearling doe off of my property and I specifaclly told him no 1.5 old bucks and no young does. I let him go after he killed the buck about a month ago. He told me he thought it was an 8 pointer. I pretended to believe him.The thing was about 10 inches tall and 12" high. Tonight he killed the yearling doe and if he cant abide by the rules he's gonna have to head to the the state woods and shoot gummers. I work with him and in the morning im gonna have to confront him about it. I dont want to but I have no choice.Ive been working so hard to manage the deer and its knuckleheads like him why the 3.5 and older bucks are so scarce around here. I was hoping you guys could give me a little info on what you would do.

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i'd confront him and let him know what the rules were and why. you should make sure that he understands you have these rules to increase the quality of the deer. if he don't like it he don't have to hunt there.

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Fact remains that he's hunting on your land which you have rules on. If he can't abide by them or have enough respect for you and the rules you have set, he's just plainly being selfish and totally disregards you, your land and what you say. In my eyes and if it were my land, he would be gone...no questions asked. Especially that you already told him specifically not to shoot certain animals. Best friend? Not really that I see. Confront him about it and see what he says 1st. If he gets defensive....see ya. Good luck.

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If you've already explained the rules to him ,then he's gone .Maybe he's testing you to see exactly what he can get away with.He obviously doesn't know nothing or care about deer management ,it's alot of work and it's guy's like him that spoil it for your other friend's who might care and who might follow the rule's but because of one guy it spoil's it for them all .THAT'S TOO DARN BAD FOR YOUR OTHER FRIENDS. IF it's my land HE'S OUT regardless of what he thought he was shooting B-LL SH-T.

nubo

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This is how I look at it. If you were a game warden and he was doing somthing against the "rules" then you would right him up (which would cost money) possibly take his gear and or truck, (More money) then take his hunting privlages away anywhere for a period of time, (for me my life would almost be over, lol) just my 2 cents. I would basiclly ground him from your property for a season or two so he can learn to respect your generous hospitalitly.

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Grounding him is too easy ,he has to know you mean it ...

nubo

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Looks like your "friend" is selfish and doesn't care about you or your wishes. It also shows he has little respect for you. If he TRULY respected you he wouldn't have shot those deer. All he cares about is "gettin' one" so he can brag to his moron buddies. The fact of the matter is he's just using you for a place to hunt!!!
I wouldn't even confront him about it. Let me give you an example of what I would do:

First, I'd look for an oppurtunity to give him a dose of his own medicine, not because I would stoop to his level, but because he is my friend and I care about him and I want to try to help him become a better person,right???????

Edited out. Come on man, we don't need our children reading this kind of stuff.

By this time your friend is bound to say "Hey, what are you doing? Don't treat my place like that." That's when you'll remind him that your hunting property is as valuable to you as his home is to him, maybe more. And when he behaves differently than you ask him to he's no longer welcome. But as long as HE can respect YOUR place, you'll give him just one more chance.
If he straightens out, FINE , if not, then NUKE 'EM!;)

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captain backstrap remind me to not tick you off ok.

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Well said stump:D My thoughts exactly! See ya....

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I tend to agree with the others. Screw up once and I can understand it to some extent. Screw up twice and in such a short time frame and I have to admit that I would explain the situation to him as well as your stance on it and then ask him not to come back for at least the rest of the season.

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I would not ruin a best friendship over a trigger happy buddy. If he IS your best friend and you are close - talk to him.

Bucks can be found every year - best friends can not.

JMO;)

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I've had similar situations happen to me, but worse......it was a brother-in-law.
You have only one choice......let him know you are very serious! Therefore, he will no longer have the priveledge of hunting on your property.
I have several rules on my property:
1.) (Most important) No one can hunt unless they do their part and helping me maintain the property by helping me in the off season. Mowing, cutting trees, planting food plots, maintaining feeders and stands, purchasing tree stands, etc. etc. Some people just don't realize just how expensive deer hunting can be when doing all of the above things, not including price of the property.
2.) They have to harvest a doe before they can even think about harvesting a buck. Sometimes.....it's two does. What I can't believe is that some people think that does are the easiest deer to shoot with a bow. I don't get it.......I've harvested 6 deer this year with my bow, only one being a mature 140" 11 point. He was the easiest of all of them. Come to my hunting woods and try getting the string back on a mature doe. Those that do.....appreciate the almighty "mature" doe much more once they do!!
3.) 8 Point or better! No exceptions! If they happen to mess up and shoot a seven or less......then their done! A bowhunter must have the patience and wisdom to KNOW without dought what they are shooting. If they don't, they don't shoot.
Once you enforce rules such as these, it makes the hunting better for everyone in many ways......most of all, it makes everyone better hunters and if they have a brain they will thank you for it, eventually!! Hopefully.

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I had the exact same thing this season with a buddy of mine. During bow season I passed on a suicide small 6 pointer just about every afternoon hunt for a week. He'd walk the same path EVERY afternoon at 4:00. 10 yard broadside every single time. We'd talk after every hunt about what we saw and where and all that. I told him about it everytime. We set the rules from the begining just like you did. So one afternoon i decided to go to a different stand where I've been watching a nice 10 pointer at night feeding in a soy bean field. My buddy goes to the other stand where I've seen the 6. He calls me on the radio at 4:15 and tells me he has a good hit on a buck. I was thrilled!!! I finished out the hunt and around 6:00 we tracked his buck. Yep the 6 pointer I've let walk all season!! I simply asked him why in the world do you think I let this deer walk about 10 different times? It was a tough situation because it was only his 2nd buck ever and he was excited but dam!!! Anyway he was tagged out and didn't hunt until gun season where he never had an opportunity to shoot a buck. So I don't know what the deal will be for next year. I love the kid like a brother, but me and my neighboring hunting parties have worked really hard at getting some nice bucks in the area. So I guess I don't know what to tell you lol cause I'm not sure what I'm going to do.

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How many times can you be nice about it. If it was my land I'd tell them exactly what the guidlines were for the property.Then if they decide to release an arrow on a deer that I asked them not to shoot, it be all on them. Guess you don't want to hunt the property anymore.

It's like a couple spots I hunt the property owners don't want gun hunting on their land. I watched a huge 10 pt at 40 yards during gun season with my bow in my hand, had to let him walk. Knew the guy was away for Thanksgiving, no one would have known if I had brought my Barretta that day.It's his land so I hunt by his rules,or I won't be on the land.