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Zelazny 10-27-2003 10:18 AM

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Far left one ... a dandy huh ??




adams 10-27-2003 10:21 AM

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This photo makes me sick! Just green with envy. From where I' m sitting looks as though you' ve got a couple of dandy' s in that field. What part of the counrty are you in?

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DaveH 10-27-2003 10:25 AM

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Too many big bucks there--they need to be thinned. Give me the directions and I' ll give you a hand in controlling their out of control numbers. :D

cardeer 10-27-2003 10:29 AM

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Nice bucks,but probably a farm

PABowhntr 10-27-2003 10:33 AM

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Those are some nice year and a half old bucks but the genetics in that heard are pretty poor....look at how many points and how thick the main beams are...definitely poor nutrition as well...

...;)

JeramyK 10-27-2003 10:42 AM

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Wow ! :D

rockytop 10-27-2003 11:12 AM

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What about the center one or the right. Just goes to show bowhunting ain' t fair.

urlacher54 10-27-2003 11:52 AM

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those are some nice bucks good for you
why do some of you guys always doubt people (it is probably a farm) why can' t it be good management this is one reason I left this board I come back and nothing has changed

tabby 10-27-2003 12:11 PM

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Very true. Could be good management. But more likely a fence.
It is it managemnet on private land, I need to come over and learn a few things. Most of us have no chance of having deer that big. I know I had a few, and they were poached. Besides, too many hunters to have that many. Zelazny must have a lot of private land, if that is the case.

Those deer are huge.

Rack-attack 10-27-2003 12:37 PM

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Look at the trees in the back:)

they are all leaning over

Probably last years rubs[:o]:D

Zelazny 10-27-2003 12:50 PM

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LOL !!

These are absolutely 100% wild deer. I cannot say where they are, but the area is bowhunting only and strictly managed. These deer pics were taken a year ago I believe. I drew a tag for this area and was stunned at the pictures and racks they have there.

I' ve hunted there 3 days and seen 1 little 8-9 point and a few does. The big bucks are not easy to hunt because of the thick brush, but I suspect I' ll have several more opportunities to hunt there before season end. I take a 35 mm camera and 300 mm lens into my stand with me in case that B&C walks out at 100 yards ... at least I can snap photos. This is THE best public land I' ve ever hunted, all thanks to the strict management. I believe its better than the private land I hunt in KS ever year.


Zelazny 10-27-2003 12:56 PM

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I about messed up ! ARGHHH. I' m being very careful not to say where this place is because it IS public land and somewhat of an unknown honey hole !

Whew. ... anyway, heres a few more pics


Zelazny 10-27-2003 12:57 PM

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another

Zelazny 10-27-2003 12:58 PM

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another




Rack-attack 10-27-2003 01:52 PM

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That looks like the pics from my field this year.......

Just Minus 857 pts:D:D

by23856 10-27-2003 02:37 PM

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My guess is some where in SW Iowa. I truly believe the next World Record, if there ever is another one, will come from Iowa, and likely from the SW.;)

Rack-attack 10-27-2003 02:47 PM

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I truly believe the next World Record, if there ever is another one, will come from Iowa, and likely from the SW.
Thats the way to go out on a limb and make a bold statement like that:D

Bowhuntrey 10-27-2003 02:50 PM

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Is it just me, or is the last " picture" a painting? I know its framed...looks a lot like a painting...are the rest paintings as well?

by23856 10-27-2003 03:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rack-attack

Thats the way to go out on a limb and make a bold statement like that:D

That' s me... just a Limb walking, bold type of guy [8D];):D

OlMossyHorns 10-27-2003 04:18 PM

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That last one is definately framed...you can see the reflection of a window in the bottom right corner....but that doesn' t mean anything.

JZarr 10-27-2003 04:47 PM

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Pffffttt....with bucks like that, those pix must be from Illinois. :D

Ken/WV 10-27-2003 04:50 PM

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That is a framed picture from where i sit. Definetly no painting...and if it was a painting, someone would be getting a lot of money for painting pictures that are clear like photo' s. lol


bobcat 10 10-27-2003 04:55 PM

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i seen all of them deer in my back yard. the big buck in the first pic on the left was 30 feet from my window . yeah wright . nice pics and i hope you can get one.

i hunted a place last year that had 24 bucks and 10 does in one field it look just like that all the bucks had big racks to. but on different farm so no shot.

go deep hunt hard.;)

No Name 10-27-2003 04:58 PM

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To many inferior bucks,bad genetics,and very poor nutrition. If I was you, I' d start thinning them out ASAP.;)

Hell who I' m kidding, if I saw that many good bucks, I' d mess my pants.:D

dpv 10-27-2003 07:13 PM

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I' d settle for seeing a single deer this year. so far, it' s been bone dry for me. Best of luck to you on bagging one of those brutes.

David

atlasman 10-27-2003 09:40 PM

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Where is the challenge in hunting a place like that?? Seriously. I never really understood the excitement in just picking the biggest deer out of a crowd and whacking it.

How proud could you possibly be of a deer taken from that field?? It' s like fishing in a privately stocked pond full of 8 lb largemouths........sure it' s fun but the feeling of accomplishment just isn' t the same.

Now take a deer like that in a place where no one even dreams of deer that big and you have yourself a lifelong trophy you can be proud of.

Taking nothing away from the deer of course......they are awesome!!!


BTW there are more then one thing about this thread that don' t seem to jive.

If this land is so strictly managed how can it be public??........who is doing the managing??.......and if anyone can hunt there then it would be impossible to manage because you don' t know who is hunting and even if you do they are under no obligation to follow any rules other then the DEC laws.

Also, I find it VERY hard to believe that if a place like this existed and it was public......no one would know about it. EVERYONE for 3 counties in each direction would be posted on that field 24-7 until all those deer were on a wall somewhere.

Getting a deer out of a place that is crawling with them like roaches is a lot more killing then it is hunting. JMO.

Give me a call sometime and you can come hunt my state land where you are lucky if you even SEE a deer. I have been out 6 FULL days already this year and not seen a single deer. Anything with 6 pts or better is a REAL nice deer and the thought of letting something walk by never even crosses your mind.........unless you know a good recipe for carcass tags ;)

Now that is hunting ;)

I have always said that the land a person gets to hunt is the biggest factor in that hunters success level. Imagine the racks you would have on your wall if you hunted this spot every year and got to scout it all offseason???

Would that make you a great hunter?? or a good hunter that has access to a great spot??


Enough ranting..............sweet deer [:o]

Zelazny 10-28-2003 07:27 AM

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by23856 - Not even close :)

Bowhuntrey - They are all pictures of pictures (except the skull).

atlasman - Wow, I never knew a couple of pictures of big bucks would raise the challenges of ethics and game farming @!

Heres the deal. This place is several thousand acres of public land. Its strictly managed by a resident draw system that allows for bowhunting only to a very few people. Only a handfull of bucks come off it each year as a result of the strict system. These bucks are 100% wild deer in an area that isn' t really known for large racked bucks. How is it possible ? Age and nutrition. Most of the big bucks they find dead and/or are killed are like 3.5 - 5.5 and older. They found sheds of a 230" non-typical and had a 200" non-typical (gross) killed there. 1.3 - 1 doe/buck ratio from what I' ve been told.

Wheres the challenge ? I hunted there for 3 days already and I' ve seen 3 does and a small buck. The place is unreal thick and nasty, and I like hunting thick and nasty. I might very well hunt there the next 2 weeks and not see a big buck. Public land hunting, surrounded by private land that gets hunted hard = smart bucks. This is no gimmee hunting, its an opportunity to hunt in an area that has quality deer as opposed to hunting an area that has probably just as many deer, just not as quality.

I will keep taking my camera to my stand as I hunt this place and hope to snap a few of the big ones that come through - hopefully. Might even arrow one with my longbow !

Charlie P 10-28-2003 07:33 AM

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Geez, Why don' t some of you grow a set and call him a liar,that' s is what your hinting at isn' t it?

Stealthy, If you need someone to help you verify what your saying is the truth let me know.;)

wolfen68 10-28-2003 07:42 AM

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atlasman...you are a friggin' idiot pal!!! I' ve never heard such completely ridiculous statements! How unbelievable. You reveal much about your knowledge, or lack thereof, of deer and deer hunting with your ignorant comments.

Yeah, these bucks, that are in velvet, in the summer, in bachelor groups all stay on the same 1/2 acre piece of ground all through October, and through the rut, and even post-rut, giving the hunter 3 solid months of grocery shopping opportunities for a big buck with daily sightings of 5 or more PY bucks per hunt. Gimme a break!!! Unbelievable! If anything, these hawgs will be much, much more difficult to hunt once the season begins and will most likely disperse to increase their range by frickin' miles and miles! They feel the pressure of hunters and " bye bye" they go nocturnal...especially on public ground. Soooo many times a bachelor group like this can be seen only to never be seen again until the following summer. You go ahead and pursue your field of dreams filled with 1.5 year old basket racks because for some reason in your small mind they make a much more difficult trophy to hunt. I' m still amazed by your comments[X(][X(][X(]

kimndavid 10-28-2003 08:11 AM

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Ditto Wolfen68, Ignorance with a healthy dose of jealousy. Some people can' t stand the fact that someone else may have a chance to take a big buck...so they have to bash ' em....Some people are just negative, about hunting, about life in general....man, it must really suck to live that way:(:(

Anyway, those are some great deer, hope you get to bag one of ' em Z, love to see a pic of one on the ground:D:D

>>>---DAVIDP---SILERCITY,NC--->

Charlie P 10-28-2003 08:15 AM

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Wolfen, Tell us how you really feel woud ya. You can' t hold it in like this or you' ll just get ulcers.lol

txbowjunkie 10-28-2003 08:36 AM

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Nothing wrong with those bucks.

Zelazny 10-28-2003 08:56 AM

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Another picture ... I would not pass this one up. Heavy, not wide, but character ...




Zelazny 10-28-2003 08:59 AM

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typical 12 - younger deer no doubt because of the tine length and mass - and nothing non-typical about the frame. Still, I would not pass him up if I had the chance !

(ps - I really like this embedding a picture feature !)




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atlasman 10-28-2003 10:52 AM

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atlasman...you are a friggin' idiot pal!!! I' ve never heard such completely ridiculous statements!
At least your not taking it personal ;)

I count 7 bucks in that first photo with racks that most hunters would consider a once in a lifetime trophy all in the same frame.......no telling how many more bucks are close by and perhaps even in the same field. While it would be great to have one of them on the wall......the sense of accomplishment just can' t be that great when there is one that looks just like him behind every other tree.



Yeah, these bucks, that are in velvet, in the summer, in bachelor groups all stay on the same 1/2 acre piece of ground all through October, and through the rut, and even post-rut, giving the hunter 3 solid months of grocery shopping opportunities for a big buck with daily sightings of 5 or more PY bucks per hunt. Gimme a break!!! Unbelievable! If anything, these hawgs will be much, much more difficult to hunt once the season begins and will most likely disperse to increase their range by frickin' miles and miles!
Then why do so many of us bother with preseason scouting?? What is the point of patterning deer all year long if they just scatter when they see opening day on their little deer calandars??

I guess the whole theory of scouting should be abandoned ;)



They feel the pressure of hunters and " bye bye" they go nocturnal...especially on public ground.
But according to this guy they don' t see much pressure because only a few people get to draw tags and hunt there..............something that makes no sense at all since it is public land and no one can be leaglly kept from hunting there if they choose.



You go ahead and pursue your field of dreams filled with 1.5 year old basket racks because for some reason in your small mind they make a much more difficult trophy to hunt. I' m still amazed by your comments
More difficult then shooting fish in a barrell??? Yup. Take today for example. I was in the woods about a half hour before light and heard some deer making their way down from the field into the woods..........I was eager for the sun to rise that' s for sure. Except when it did I was greeted with 4 different morons fall turkey hunting and of course walking all the time. I heard at least 10 shots......most of which came in 2-3 repeaters so they were shooting at running or flying birds and every deer I saw today (6 doe) were running full speed ahead. What was a promising morning quickly turned to a fiasco. All I' m saying is that hunting deer under conditions like these really makes you appreciate any success you can achieve. I have killed deer on friends property that gaurenteed me I would see 30 deer in a morning sit..........I did, I killed what he wanted me to and went home and cut it up into steaks. Of all the hunts I have ever been on those have been the least memorable........nice piles of meat but did very little to stir feelings of a great hunt IMO.

It really has nothing to do with the size of the racks.........I am a meat hunter first so I shoot first and count points later ;) What I do consider a true trophy is the odd ball in the woods........the freak of the area........an uncommon sight. That is what makes a great rack really cool........telling everyone that you got it in an area that does not produce bucks like that on a daily basis. Showing someone a picture and saying I shot the 5th huge buck from the left just isn' t the same.

Doemasters 10-28-2003 10:54 AM

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The secon & third pic are in frames. You can clearly see the reflections. Hell I' d mount the damn picture too!

atlasman 10-28-2003 11:03 AM

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Ditto Wolfen68, Ignorance with a healthy dose of jealousy.
I didn' t realize this board was full of psychiatrists ;) Of course I am jealous you dolt.......the deer are amazing!!! I would love to whack one and have him staring out of my wall at me every morning.......who wouldn' t?? Not really sure why having an opinion makes me ignorant.............just because you disagree with me I guess.

I never said the deer weren' t great.......I just wouldn' t get the same thrill out of killing one of them that had a dozen twin brothers eating the same clover.



Some people can' t stand the fact that someone else may have a chance to take a big buck...so they have to bash ' em....Some people are just negative, about hunting, about life in general....man, it must really suck to live that way
No idea where you came up with that...........it amazes me how people turn what someone actually says into what they would rather hear.

atlasman 10-28-2003 11:16 AM

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Heres the deal. This place is several thousand acres of public land. Its strictly managed by a resident draw system that allows for bowhunting only to a very few people.
Sorry I just don' t believe that. You mean to tell me that all these bucks are there for the taking on thousands of acres of public land and no one hunts there but select tag holders.......and bow only?? Where is this place?.......dreamland?

How could you possibly manage thousands of acres of land.......being sure that only tag holders hunted it and bow only?? What exactly do they do if someone hunts there with no tag or a gun??



Only a handfull of bucks come off it each year as a result of the strict system. These bucks are 100% wild deer in an area that isn' t really known for large racked bucks.
Who runs this strict system??

So these deer are in a place where small racks are the norm?? and no one even tries to get at these bad boys that are freely open to public hunting??



How is it possible ? Age and nutrition.
Who pays for all the food plots?? Who plants them and takes care of the land?? If it is public land you need permits to clear large areas and plant your fields.


Public land hunting, surrounded by private land that gets hunted hard = smart bucks.
Wait a minute..........Wolfen just said that these bucks will most likely scatter for miles and miles never to be seen together again. If this land is surrounded by private land they will surely all be killed by other landowners right??

These private land owners never venture onto this land pursuing these monsters even though they know it' s public??



This is no gimmee hunting, its an opportunity to hunt in an area that has quality deer as opposed to hunting an area that has probably just as many deer, just not as quality.
Just a suggestion but if the fields are still full of good eating you might wanna hang out there for an afternoon ;) With so few hunters and bow only they should be relatively undisturbed from their normal eating habits and be chowing like maniacs getting fat for the winter...........not sure when the rut is where you are.

Good luck..........they will need it ;)


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